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@Kaiser-Machead: Absolutely. I think the profile should look more like a sedan. I mean, that is the joke right, a bike with the profile of a car? And some superfluous neon? Wait, why did they build this again?
@MeesterBell: Apparently you haven't shopped for a quality bike lately. The company I work for imports and distributes fine Italian bicycles. We currently offer a model retailing at over $14,499, which can be upgraded to hit nearly $20k.
@nutbastard: While many of them might be d-bags, there are a few that actually have legitimate reasons for buying them. Some people are collectors, and this particular bike is certainly collectible (about 10 were brought into the US). Some are captains of industry and have to have something befitting of their status, and are capable of riding in a capacity to boot.
You're right though, it's not 200x better, but neither is a Ferrari vs an Accord, or a high-end gaming PC vs a cheap Dell. People tend not to 'need' these things, but we're a consumer society and without people buying $10,000 bicycles, I'd probably be waiting tables along with a number of my industry colleagues and entrepreneurs who've started bike shops in the last 5 years...
@nexusheli: That's nice... but I bought a "quality" bicycle in that I have yet to meet someone with an equal or better one for $1500.
I had $8000, but I used it to buy a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 500R, plates, insurance, and a full suit of riding gear.
I can well understand paying more for a well made bike, but I'm not paying over $3000 for a bicycle unless I have corporate sponsors for racing bikes professionally...
@fuchikoma: There's indeed a threshold for sanity when it comes to bicycles. Really for me, even working in the industry and having access to these bikes at a reduced price, I still find it hard to justify spending more than just a couple grand on one. And the one I did manage to invest nearly $2500 into was custom made by hand to my measurements, painted by hand, and has a dedication on it to me.
I understand a motorcycle is a bit more practical, but not as healthy or green. But it's just like all of us as gadget lovers, many of these things are impractical, or there are more practical ways of doing things yet we have a desire, need, want or love for these things.
I didn't need a Nikon D90, a D40, or even a Canon G10 or similar would have done just fine, but I was no less grateful when I received that D90 as a 30th b-day present...
@nexusheli: I can totally understand that, and I'm not saying you should just get a motorbike instead - just that it becomes hard to justify that much on a bicycle when you could get so much for the same money (but wow, if I could get a good custom bike for $2500 I would have for sure!) It's like the argument of "why buy a $250,000 car when you could have... a house?" I don't know how many you sell in the $8-9k range, but I kind of agree with MeesterBell's sentiment that for that much it may as well be a museum piece, unless the frame lasts through a century of hard offroad use, and no parts ever require maintenance.
The biggest issue for me is that people will steal a $500 bike if they can - even if the value of an $8000 one (or a $14,500 one!) isn't obvious by looking at it, you'd pretty much have to carry it around with you anywhere you stopped to make sure you didn't lose something as valuable as a motor vehicle. Where I live there are often no viable places to anchor the frame to anything, so you kind of have to lock the wheel and frame together and hope no one notices it and walks off with it - or walk several blocks from where you parked it.
So I'd never spend that much on a bike myself - but like your cameras, if I just happened to end up with one, you bet I'd enjoy it!
@hacku: You can get an entry-level sportbike that will do 200kph brand new for that too. Actually, a few grand less, and even a grand or two less than that in the USA.
...but of course you buy a bicycle because you want a bicycle... but if I had one that expensive I'd have to disassemble it and stuff it into a hard case then carry it with me everywhere I went, because leaving it outside would be insane.
I love it... not the most useful thing now since my car tells me most of that, but it's right up my alley. If they made it project onto the windshield as a reflection HUD, I'd be there. #ecoroutesesp
Pretty clever, actually... and it would probably give better routing estimates, having realtime data on your speed, idle, gas mileage, etc.
I foresee many GPS vs. Android comments here, but I think it's not necessarily a fight to the death. There is obviously a market for both, and it's a matter of each providing flexible featuresets that offer additional added value that benefits the intended user. Could phone-based GPS eventually supplant dedicated units? Possibly. But, I see the dedicated GPS companies crossing over before any final "death blow" is dealt. #ecoroutesesp
I don't see how Google Maps could beat a dedicated GPS unit. I do a lot of research on GPS units and have roadtested several, the dedicated units always beat the phone based, hands down. And who wants to be forced to use a data plan to get your maps? I want all my maps on the device. Only phone based GPS that I could see rivialing a dedicated unit was iGuidance, technically it isn't for phones but can be hacked to run on a WM touchscreen phone easily. #ecoroutesesp
@Mozoltov: Well I think the Google Nav thing is aimed at people like, well, me. I have a smartphone and always will. Since I already have that, this cuts out the need for a basic GPS unit, which I also have.
I have a Garmin 750, and it is very useful, especially in Canada, where I refuse to turn my data roaming on. I can still navigate, and know the speed limit wherever I am. But honestly, if I had a Droid, I wouldn't need the Garmin for trips inside the US.
The point of Google Nav isn't that it's going to kill dedicated GPS units, it's going to force them to innovate. This is a perfect example. Here's a GPS that does much more than a smartphone easily could.
Garmin and TomTom et al need to come up with things for their devices to do that go far beyond the capabilities of a navi-phone. Like HUDs, integration with a non-navi smartphone, using its data connection to download free traffic data, etc. #ecoroutesesp
@Mozoltov, motherfucker: I remember early, dedicated, GPS units being quite unreliable, unwieldy and a chore to program. Over the years they've grown to become extremely efficient and user-friendly devices that have added many additional (and often useless) features. My point being, I can envision that phone-based GPS could grow more mature, reliable and efficient within a short time. There's absolutely the possibility of maps being stored locally, and having additional features reivalling dedicated units. As GPS units have grown into PMPs, bluetooth interfaces and web connections, so too have phones become more of a platform than a dedicated device. The convergence between them, with most phones having GPS functionality, is inevitable. I think, within a short time, we'll see the two being on even footing, and competing in a healthy way, with many benefits to consumers. #ecoroutesesp
@Stikman008: In my experience ease of use and feature bloat. I am currently using Copilot Live on my G1 since my nuvi bit the bullet. The UI is absolutely horrible, don't know what the designer was thinking, definitely not finger friendly, who uses styli any more? And you have to go through several pages of stuff to find what you need, I find the tree analogy of how menus are set up to be the most efficient. Have the main features you need on top and if you want to get more things you dig down deeper in the tree, the tree gets wider as you get to the bottom. #ecoroutesesp
@met2art: I don't see smartphone GPS units going towards local maps, almost all of them out there are data based. They don't want to do that because they assume that if you have a smartphone you are going to have a data connection, like 99% of smartphone owners (I totally made that stat up) so streaming the maps is their first option. It could happen that both platforms are on equal ground but I don't see that happening for a while. I could be wrong. #ecoroutesesp
@Mozoltov, motherfucker: Some third-party GPS apps (such as Copilot Live) for Android have maps stored locally, on the SD card. Google GPS uses a data connection, but that could change. As most phones (and all Android phones) have extensible storage via SD card, there is certainly the option to have on-board map data supplemented by data-connection when possible. Is it perfect for everyone? Probably not, but as a free service (that even in beta performs exceptionally well) it is likely to become quite popular, especially if it gains cross-platform support. Will it overthrow Garmin or Tom Tom? Probably not (at least not anytime soon) but it will suddenly give many people GPS anywhere, at any time, at no additional cost, and with potentialy endless ancillary benefits that only a layered, open-source and free system, can provide.
To sum up, I doubt Garmin or Tom Tom are getting coffin fittings, but I would place substantial bets that they are having lots of meetings and conferences to see what they can do to shore up their value-added revenue stream. #ecoroutesesp
seriously? a 5 liter engine? i can think of a lot more fun to have with 5L of displacement..... wow.. give me four wheels and five speeds please. #hovercrafts
Doesn't a Segway do pretty much everything this thing does but better, and cooler and with a much smaller footprint, and at half the price, not to mention it being more practical.
Inventors of this thing, you probably should have called Dean Kamen to see if he thought this sort of thing would turn out as useless as it looks like it has. Good effort, but back to the ol' drawing boards you brainiacs! #hovercrafts
@doktavian: As much as I love Segways, they don't go on water! Ha!
Oh wait, it can't go on water? Why in the world would they make a hovercraft that can't go on water? That's at least half the point of a hovercraft! Come on! #hovercrafts
11/24/09
That goofy shape reminds me of fone bone's head profile.
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riiight, putting around on a $9k bike in an urban area sounds like a really great idea...
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And no, it has no motor.
11/18/09
i can't believe there are d-bags out there spending that much money on a friggin bicycle.
is it better than my $80 bicycle? i have no doubt. but unless it's 200 times better, why pay 200 times more?
11/18/09
You're right though, it's not 200x better, but neither is a Ferrari vs an Accord, or a high-end gaming PC vs a cheap Dell. People tend not to 'need' these things, but we're a consumer society and without people buying $10,000 bicycles, I'd probably be waiting tables along with a number of my industry colleagues and entrepreneurs who've started bike shops in the last 5 years...
11/19/09
I had $8000, but I used it to buy a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 500R, plates, insurance, and a full suit of riding gear.
I can well understand paying more for a well made bike, but I'm not paying over $3000 for a bicycle unless I have corporate sponsors for racing bikes professionally...
11/20/09
I understand a motorcycle is a bit more practical, but not as healthy or green. But it's just like all of us as gadget lovers, many of these things are impractical, or there are more practical ways of doing things yet we have a desire, need, want or love for these things.
I didn't need a Nikon D90, a D40, or even a Canon G10 or similar would have done just fine, but I was no less grateful when I received that D90 as a 30th b-day present...
11/20/09
The biggest issue for me is that people will steal a $500 bike if they can - even if the value of an $8000 one (or a $14,500 one!) isn't obvious by looking at it, you'd pretty much have to carry it around with you anywhere you stopped to make sure you didn't lose something as valuable as a motor vehicle. Where I live there are often no viable places to anchor the frame to anything, so you kind of have to lock the wheel and frame together and hope no one notices it and walks off with it - or walk several blocks from where you parked it.
So I'd never spend that much on a bike myself - but like your cameras, if I just happened to end up with one, you bet I'd enjoy it!
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...but of course you buy a bicycle because you want a bicycle... but if I had one that expensive I'd have to disassemble it and stuff it into a hard case then carry it with me everywhere I went, because leaving it outside would be insane.
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If it's out, i'm using it, for the GPS.
Though the OBD-II bluetooth dongle thing is pretty cool. #ecoroutesesp
11/05/09
I foresee many GPS vs. Android comments here, but I think it's not necessarily a fight to the death. There is obviously a market for both, and it's a matter of each providing flexible featuresets that offer additional added value that benefits the intended user. Could phone-based GPS eventually supplant dedicated units? Possibly. But, I see the dedicated GPS companies crossing over before any final "death blow" is dealt. #ecoroutesesp
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I have a Garmin 750, and it is very useful, especially in Canada, where I refuse to turn my data roaming on. I can still navigate, and know the speed limit wherever I am. But honestly, if I had a Droid, I wouldn't need the Garmin for trips inside the US.
The point of Google Nav isn't that it's going to kill dedicated GPS units, it's going to force them to innovate. This is a perfect example. Here's a GPS that does much more than a smartphone easily could.
Garmin and TomTom et al need to come up with things for their devices to do that go far beyond the capabilities of a navi-phone. Like HUDs, integration with a non-navi smartphone, using its data connection to download free traffic data, etc. #ecoroutesesp
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To sum up, I doubt Garmin or Tom Tom are getting coffin fittings, but I would place substantial bets that they are having lots of meetings and conferences to see what they can do to shore up their value-added revenue stream. #ecoroutesesp
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Inventors of this thing, you probably should have called Dean Kamen to see if he thought this sort of thing would turn out as useless as it looks like it has. Good effort, but back to the ol' drawing boards you brainiacs! #hovercrafts
10/30/09
Oh wait, it can't go on water? Why in the world would they make a hovercraft that can't go on water? That's at least half the point of a hovercraft! Come on! #hovercrafts