Just to be clear, that rumor about the hardware being inside already was totally bunk; there's a SIM slot on every HP Mini 1000 and there is an open PCIe slot that one can put their own card in though. Currently the only way to activate it, because shortsighted people at HP decided to BIOS-lock it, is a pretty involved hack developed by JKKMobile but I expect that we'll see other hacks pretty soon that make it easier.
HP charging $200 for this is absurd. Dell charges $125 for the same card and even that is on the high side. But HP is doing that for every upgrade on this machine from the hard drive to the memory. It's a great machine in a lot of ways - it is the smallest and lightest 10" netbook around, the screen is beautiful and the keyboard is the best I've ever used (or seen) on a netbook. But they need to stop gouging their customers, stop crippling the hardware, and stop trying to sell crap like the Vivianne Tam edition for $300 more than the regular version for nothing more than what a can of Krylon has to offer. Gouging and crippling hardware is just bad policy and definitely makes them look bad amongst the tech community. But I guess they'd rather impress the fashionistas than the techies that actually might make their product successful.
@Nightsd01: Then give me the money, and I will just buy it for myself. One less HP Mini Note with any possibility of falling into your possession, yes? :D
@Digitallysick: it keeps the laptop width the same size of the screen. if the buttons were on the bottom, they would have to add more space on the screen panel in order for the top panel (one with the screen) and the bottom panel (one with the keyboard) to be even. and with that happening, the laptop wouldnt look sleek in the widescreen formfactor. it would look plain dumb.
@drummr: they're not bad to use in real life, at least not for me. I tend to tap the keyboard rather than use the buttons anyway, but even when I do use them I don't find them inconvenient.
@MobileMilitia: I got that from the website and PR materials scattered over the web. It actually does make sense in a twisted way. Y'see, Microsoft has agreed to license XP on netbooks for $25, but only if the mfrs limit the hardware to 10" screens, 1.6GHz processors, and 1 GB of RAM. So basically MS is intentionally crippling the netbooks to make sure they don't compete with higher end laptops that run Vista. So in this case the XP version of the HP Mini maxes out at 1GB, while the Linux version can be sold with 2GB (and maybe upgraded beyond that).
I went ahead and ordered one too - basically the same specs as you except I passed on the 8GB dongle and RAM upgrade because I'll just do that myself with some RAM I already have. I haven't used an Atom machine much, but from what I understand it'll handle most things quite nicely, including all Office applications. Certainly my older Asus Eee running at 900MHz seems to be pretty capable in that regard (tho I'm just running Open Office on that). I think you (and I) will both be very happy with the Atom, especially if it's not slowed down by the 4200 RPM hard-drive.
@weatherman: ahhhh, i KNEW there was a reason you had a star by your name. that sucks, but is it a hardware limitation, or just that they can't 'sell' it with more than a gig of ram? i'd shed a tear if the linux ones coming out later can physically support more ram because then i would have just waited to get one and put xp on it myself.
i was going to supply my own ram, but the guy couldn't verify what kind of ram it was...see, i have a tiny laptop for work that uses micro-dimm, and that stuff is expensive. i'm assuming this mini 1000 uses regular so-dimm, but i didn't want to chance it. besides, i was able to talk my way into a small student discount by simply remembering the city and name of my college i graduated from 4 years ago ;)
with my little laptop that's about dead, i was perfectly fine with the 4200 hdd. i mean, i went into the purchase knowing i wasn't going to be editing video or anything, but it still played some 3d games and i never noticed lag in data access.
@MobileMilitia: Yep. Glad to be of assistance. As far as upgrading the RAM beyond the 1GB, I've heard that there are a lot of netbooks that have the RAM limited to 1GB by the BIOS, but there may be ways around that. That's what I'm counting on actually.
We'll have to compare notes when we actually get our units to see if we're happy. I think mine is shipping on the 11th...
These are fantastic. I'm on the fence about the swirl pattern - not sure I like it, but maybe I can deal with it. Certainly distinctive.
Right now it's between this and the Asus Eee S101. I'm disappointed that neither is available with a bigger SSD right now (and the 16GB SSD on the HP is another $40 extra) but maybe I can make do with 16. Specc'ed out similarly, the HP is still more than $150 cheaper than the Asus, though it's not quite as thin. Having seen what HP can do with a keyboard in a mini-note, I'm more inclined to go with HP at the moment. Might even order one today...
@weatherman: OH NO! I just checked the specs and it looks like there is no SD slot on the HP Mini 1000. That might kill it for me. One of the things I love about my Asus is that it's such a convenient travel companion, and being able to take the SD card out of my camera and just pop it in the Eee makes uploading photos to Flickr and the like so convenient. Plus I have a 16GB SD card, and a system with only 16 GB of onboard storage needs that option for expansion.
I wish I needed one of these. Unfortunately, my iPhone can handle anything light like email or websurfing, and for work, well when it comes to photos and videos, one of these just don't cut it.
@RacecarBoobTat: I think you're mistaken. As a heavy netbook user (and an iPhone user) I can tell you they fill completely different needs. If you're into video editing or heavy Photoshop, sure, the netbook is not for you. But you'd be surprised at what the Atom is capable of when it comes to watching videos and basic photo editing. I watch netflix streaming vids and other downloaded vids all the time on my Eee 701, and have used it for all sorts of light office work. And that was the old 900 MHz processor.
I think I preferred the 2133 Mini-note. Here's hoping they bring it back. Solid aluminum cases are the way to go with a netbook. Plastic cracks too easily.
Should have grabbed one while I had the chance. Well, there's always ebay..
@Ed_Becerra: you can still get the 2133 from places like Amazon, starting at just $299. I've thought about it, but the 2133 gets really bad reviews for having an underpowered processor, overheating, and being hard to upgrade.
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I thinks it's funny they are also working with Lego's. I can remember playing with mindstorms at home when I was younger. They were so much fun!!
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HP charging $200 for this is absurd. Dell charges $125 for the same card and even that is on the high side. But HP is doing that for every upgrade on this machine from the hard drive to the memory. It's a great machine in a lot of ways - it is the smallest and lightest 10" netbook around, the screen is beautiful and the keyboard is the best I've ever used (or seen) on a netbook. But they need to stop gouging their customers, stop crippling the hardware, and stop trying to sell crap like the Vivianne Tam edition for $300 more than the regular version for nothing more than what a can of Krylon has to offer. Gouging and crippling hardware is just bad policy and definitely makes them look bad amongst the tech community. But I guess they'd rather impress the fashionistas than the techies that actually might make their product successful.
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the guy on the phone sort of told me it's not going to run a lot of office very well, but i think he's full of crap.
does anyone know how the 1.6ghz atom stacks up to a 1.1ghz pentium mobile?
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I went ahead and ordered one too - basically the same specs as you except I passed on the 8GB dongle and RAM upgrade because I'll just do that myself with some RAM I already have. I haven't used an Atom machine much, but from what I understand it'll handle most things quite nicely, including all Office applications. Certainly my older Asus Eee running at 900MHz seems to be pretty capable in that regard (tho I'm just running Open Office on that). I think you (and I) will both be very happy with the Atom, especially if it's not slowed down by the 4200 RPM hard-drive.
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i was going to supply my own ram, but the guy couldn't verify what kind of ram it was...see, i have a tiny laptop for work that uses micro-dimm, and that stuff is expensive. i'm assuming this mini 1000 uses regular so-dimm, but i didn't want to chance it. besides, i was able to talk my way into a small student discount by simply remembering the city and name of my college i graduated from 4 years ago ;)
with my little laptop that's about dead, i was perfectly fine with the 4200 hdd. i mean, i went into the purchase knowing i wasn't going to be editing video or anything, but it still played some 3d games and i never noticed lag in data access.
thanks for the info.
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We'll have to compare notes when we actually get our units to see if we're happy. I think mine is shipping on the 11th...
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Right now it's between this and the Asus Eee S101. I'm disappointed that neither is available with a bigger SSD right now (and the 16GB SSD on the HP is another $40 extra) but maybe I can make do with 16. Specc'ed out similarly, the HP is still more than $150 cheaper than the Asus, though it's not quite as thin. Having seen what HP can do with a keyboard in a mini-note, I'm more inclined to go with HP at the moment. Might even order one today...
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Should have grabbed one while I had the chance. Well, there's always ebay..
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