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@Sandeep Murali: agreed. the little canon SLRs are TINY. i dont think the size difference between a 1000d and the olympus four-thirds camera really makes any difference. its smaller yes, but its not pocket sized so that size difference is negligible. Id rather have my 40D. It has a nice big viewfinder almost feels as good as a boob in your hand.
@#c17784465: I'm with ya man. Big SLR bodies with sizable grips FTW. I find my D70S too small for my liking these days. Saving up for the elusive D300S. :)
I realize you have a vested interest in getting people to buy lenses from you. fine. So make some lenses that are better than the competition! Don't rely on obscure, proprietary lens mounts. Unles you can offer something REALLY amazing, which nobody else has (i sincerely doubt that) you'll only attract people who don't know better, which is never a good business model.
@COCOViper: Believe it or not, some of our fellow Giz readers think Yelp is strictly for iPhone users on the basis that both appeal only to hipster douchebags.
@dagamer34: I'd guess its the holidays. What sucks is if it doesn't let up Gawker's probably going to have to make account creation a bit of a longer process.
I just want to be able to use this with WiFi, without a data plan (i.e., as a WiFi PDA + cell phone). The extra cost of a data plan makes these smartphones unappealing.
@Mace Moneta: Since the device has Wifi itself, I don't see why you can't just stick your SIM card that doesn't have a data plan into the Nexus One and hunt for Wifi signal while continuing to use your minutes for your calls.
If this is affordable for my budget, this is a viable solution for me instead of carrying a phone and an iPod touch.
I'm not due for my T-Mobile upgrade 'till July; I hope I can talk them into selling me this for $200; they have excellent customer service so I don't see why not.
I'll miss my G1's hardware keyboard, hopefully the less bulk on my pocket will make up for it :-/
@fdisk: July is my upgrade/cancel month as well. I figure either this phone will be cheaper by then, or there'll be a better phone that will cost the same. Either way, waiting 6 months means more time for the dev community to root it and pass on the excellence to you.
@vinterchaos: When it comes to Android, I think "needing root" depends on the user rather than the platform ;) I'm sure it'll be quite capable out of the box.
@Killjoy: I love rooting, and it's always fun to install the latest Cyanogenmod. But my phone has been very buggy since I've been using modded ROMs. I know it comes with the territory, but I might wait a while before I root my next one.
/slashdot is saying that this phone will support ads so lower it's price; that's fine with me as long as they offer a regular $199 ad-free version as well.
@fdisk: You can always root the phone but leave the OS alone. This way you can install wifi tethering, underclock removal and so on, but not worry about a tweaked OS.
As for janky ROMs, I read community feedback about the incremental revisions of each official release and I wait for one that's reviewed as extra-stable and/or extra-optimized. My friends may have run custom 1.5 earlier than I did, but picking a stable release meant that mine was the only phone that wasn't glitch-ridden by the time custom 1.6 was available.
Ok I'm really confused here, everyone seems to be hyped up about a phone that is running an identical OS as the Droid. Yes it is being sold supposedly directly from Google, but I don't really see the difference.
With Verizon your getting the best wireless service in the business, at least based on Consumer Report. All the pictures so far of the Google phone's system look identical to the Droids so I don't see the difference other than having another Android phone on a different network. Except maybe the snapdragon processor.
Is there some big secret here that I'm missing here?
@Ariton: Although the underlying OS is the same, this may run an interface designed exactly the way Google wants. If that's the case, this won't be the telco-influenced Android you've seen so far.
Then there's the little matter of pick-your-own plan. Depending on how much control you'd like in that area, YMMV.
Sounds reasonable to me. The conversation probably went something like this:
Google: "Hey, Verizon, wanna build out an entire nationwide GSM network, just to support this one phone?"
Verizon: "Uh, no."
Google: "You sure, it's really cool."
Verizon: "Yeah, we're sure."
Makes sense... T-Mobile seems to be the only carrier interested in moving away from the "subsidized phone" business model, so they have the least to lose from endorsing the Google phone.
12/21/09
And they work with dozens of lenses from the respective manufacturers' catalogs. This idea is dead in the water.
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I realize you have a vested interest in getting people to buy lenses from you. fine. So make some lenses that are better than the competition! Don't rely on obscure, proprietary lens mounts. Unles you can offer something REALLY amazing, which nobody else has (i sincerely doubt that) you'll only attract people who don't know better, which is never a good business model.
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It was kind of a silly conversation.
12/18/09
*what's with all the spam lately? O_o*
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If this is affordable for my budget, this is a viable solution for me instead of carrying a phone and an iPod touch.
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I'll miss my G1's hardware keyboard, hopefully the less bulk on my pocket will make up for it :-/
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/slashdot is saying that this phone will support ads so lower it's price; that's fine with me as long as they offer a regular $199 ad-free version as well.
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As for janky ROMs, I read community feedback about the incremental revisions of each official release and I wait for one that's reviewed as extra-stable and/or extra-optimized. My friends may have run custom 1.5 earlier than I did, but picking a stable release meant that mine was the only phone that wasn't glitch-ridden by the time custom 1.6 was available.
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With Verizon your getting the best wireless service in the business, at least based on Consumer Report. All the pictures so far of the Google phone's system look identical to the Droids so I don't see the difference other than having another Android phone on a different network. Except maybe the snapdragon processor.
Is there some big secret here that I'm missing here?
12/14/09
Then there's the little matter of pick-your-own plan. Depending on how much control you'd like in that area, YMMV.
Then there's Snapdragon.
12/14/09
Google: "Hey, Verizon, wanna build out an entire nationwide GSM network, just to support this one phone?"
Verizon: "Uh, no."
Google: "You sure, it's really cool."
Verizon: "Yeah, we're sure."
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