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    Image of electronymous electronymous
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    12/21/12
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    10/09/09

    @electronymous: Or for everyone else in the world, 12/12/21
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    Image of Kevin Kowal Kevin Kowal
    10/09/09

    @Poop Cooper: who puts the day as the last digit?

    i always thought it was MM/DD/YY in usa and DD/MM/YY everywhere else?
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    jakebathman promoted this comment Kevin Kowal was starred Kevin Kowal was unstarred
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    10/09/09

    @Kevin Kowal: Yeah, I think he must have meant 21/12/12
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    Image of TuxBobble TuxBobble
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    <- Doesn't get the Muse reference.

    Or maybe it's just such a gloomy Friday that I've shut my brain off since my boss isn't in the office today...
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    Rosa Golijan promoted this comment TuxBobble was starred TuxBobble was unstarred
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    10/09/09

    @TuxBobble: Here.
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    Image of huginn huginn
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER
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    Image of VisibleHand VisibleHand
    10/09/09

    @huginn: Win.

    ...

    For those baffled, it's from Isaac Asimov's amazing short story, The Last Question. Which pertains to entropy and curiosity as to the means of reversal thereof, and is definitely worth a read.
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    Image of LindsayJoy's MBP is into S+M LindsayJoy's MBP is into S+M
    10/10/09

    @huginn:

    Rather...for now:
    DNE

    With all the infinities they had to estimate. As a Feynman fan I would have to say they must have loved Schwinger.
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    Image of MisterWho's Mystery Meat MisterWho's Mystery Meat
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    Seriously, this is not our problem. Can we just go back to raping our planet and let the future people deal with it when the topic comes up?
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    bagellord promoted this comment MisterWho's Mystery Meat was starred MisterWho's Mystery Meat was unstarred
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    10/09/09

    @MisterWho: The Fart Bender: Here here! I suppose the environment can take one more for the team.
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    Image of MisterWho's Mystery Meat MisterWho's Mystery Meat
    10/09/09

    @bagellord: You mean take one from the team.
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    Edited by MisterWho's Mystery Meat at 10/09/09 5:33 PM MisterWho's Mystery Meat was starred MisterWho's Mystery Meat was unstarred
    Image of killzpot killzpot
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    The sciences are nothing more than an organized system of ignorance.
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    Image of SysRq SysRq
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    Black holes are not cool. I should use my hippie powers to organize some anti-black hole rallies.
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    Image of happyandyv happyandyv
    10/09/09

    @SysRq: We can get signs and tape and markers - OH it'll be wonderful!

    props @ op 4 black holes and revelations ref
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    SysRq promoted this comment happyandyv was starred happyandyv was unstarred
    Image of SysRq SysRq
    10/16/09

    @happyandyv: You take care of that, I'll go chalk up the sidewalk around campus. Yeah, makin' a DIFFERENCE! #endoftheuniverse
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    Image of SigmundTheSeaMonster SigmundTheSeaMonster
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    They don't call it carbon credits for nothing. And your credit is about to be used up!

    BTW< black holes are nothing more than galactic recyclers. What goes in, will, eventually, come out, in a new and refreshed rebirth.
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    Edited by SigmundTheSeaMonster at 10/09/09 8:29 AM SigmundTheSeaMonster was starred SigmundTheSeaMonster was unstarred
    Image of QuarterToTomorrow QuarterToTomorrow
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    Maximum entropy is not about molecular motion, it's about energy distribution; basically, all the energy in the universe will eventually become heat, making it a very warm, very dead place.
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    Image of yogibimbi yogibimbi
    10/09/09

    @QuarterToTomorrow: wrong, it will become colder. It will be a cold, dead place. There was something in the article that mixed heat death and entropy, but I am too tired to figure out what went wrong there...
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    VisibleHand promoted this comment Edited by yogibimbi at 10/09/09 9:54 AM yogibimbi was starred yogibimbi was unstarred
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    10/09/09

    @yogibimbi: As I understand it, the universe will get warmer on average, which will leave it still a very cold place.

    Most of the universe, now, is really, really cold. We happen to be on a bit that's not. In the entropic death of the universe, all energy would be heat, pretty much evenly distributed. The average would be higher than it is now (but still near 0 Kelvin), but there would be no hot spots like us up at 310 K or wherever we are.

    So, yeah, it'll be cold and dead. Dead, because life requires an imbalance in energy distribution to drive it; cold, because it will be only a bit warmer overall than the near-absolute-zero it is now.
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    Image of jjigen jjigen
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    hmm, so the goal is to lower entropy? so if i continuously add ice cubes to my drink, i save the world?
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    Image of Brau Brau
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    Turn off your lights!
    Ride the bus!
    Stop using toilet paper!
    Stop Universal Entropy!
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    10/09/09

    @Brau: you should make that a bumper sticker.
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    Image of Twinder Twinder
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    More useless theory. Theory based on theories that were at one time based on other theories...it goes on forever. Just one small mistake in some hundred-year-old theory way back in the day could be enough throw this all out the window.

    No one ever proves anything anymore, they just want their ideas to be heard so they get more research funding.

    And in this case...who's gonna call them on it when they're inevitably wrong (again)? As humans we prove ourselves wrong so much more often than we prove ourselves right.

    Does anyone really think molecular motion will actually stop before we all destroy ourselves anyway? Put money into some useful research for once.
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    Kaiser-Machead promoted this comment Twinder was starred Twinder was unstarred
    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    10/09/09

    @Twinder: Or, maybe you should propose a more appropriate subject of research and have some organization or group fund your activity so that you can potentially bring us more worthwhile discoveries.
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    Image of sortius sortius
    10/09/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: wow, 2 ignorant posts in a row.

    You guys obviously don't get science, so just put down your computers and your mobile phones and walk back into the thick undergrowth hiding from predators. Why, you may ask.

    Well, it's simple, without scientific pursuits (even some of the most basic, like fashioning tools) you would still be at the bottom of the food chain. Just because a theory is out doesn't mean it has no value. The whole point of science is the evolution of an idea, if you're not willing to accept that (or in your case you wish to restrict this) then you have no place using any technology.

    FYI, funding usually comes from governments or organisations for science. So yes, these people are being paid. What for? To do exactly what this report is doing. The both of you need to learn to think a bit more than "oh noes, science made a misatake... bad science, kthxbai".

    As old Ben Franklin said, we are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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    Image of Hilo Hilo
    10/09/09

    @Twinder:

    Dear Mr. Edison,

    Face it, your idea for an electric candle, while absurdly amusing, has not panned out. I have watched you make hundreds of attempts now, using a wide array of filaments to no success. As humans we prove ourselves wrong so much more often than we prove ourselves right.. try putting money into some useful research for once.

    Sincerely,
    Twinder, 1878
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    Identity less than three promoted this comment Hilo was starred Hilo was unstarred
    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    10/09/09

    @sortius: You're barking up the wrong tree, buddy. Is there any particular reason why this comment is directed to me? I'm very curious, as I made no criticisms against any theory, nor did I display any lack of a firm grasp on what a theory actually is.
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    Edited by Kaiser-Machead at 10/09/09 3:06 AM Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred
    Image of weatherman weatherman
    10/09/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: you might want to start using sarcasm tags just for the folks who don't read that closely or understand your dry wit.

    /sarcasm
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    Image of Incindre Incindre
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    WTF is Entropy? It sounds like something you could catch from a hooker.
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    Sticks Calhoun promoted this comment G.O.B.: Come on! approved this comment Incindre was starred Incindre was unstarred
    Image of Sticks Calhoun Sticks Calhoun
    10/09/09

    @Incindre: What is entropy? I'm glad you asked! Allow MC Hawking to drop some science on your ass.

    [www.dizzler.com]

    Harm me with harmony.
    Doomsday, drop a load on 'em.

    Verse 1
    Entropy, how can I explain it? I'll take it frame by frame it,
    to have you all jumping, shouting saying it.
    Let's just say that it's a measure of disorder,
    in a system that is closed, like with a border.
    It's sorta, like a, well a measurement of randomness,
    proposed in 1850 by a German, but wait I digress.
    "What the fuck is entropy?", I hear the people still exclaiming,
    it seems I gotta start the explaining.

    You ever drop an egg and on the floor you see it break?
    You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.
    But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true,
    if you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new.

    That's entropy or E-N-T-R-O to the P to the Y,
    the reason why the sun will one day all burn out and die.
    Order from disorder is a scientific rarity,
    allow me to explain it with a little bit more clarity.
    Did I say rarity? I meant impossibility,
    at least in a closed system there will always be more entropy.
    That's entropy and I hope that you're all down with it,
    if you are here's your membership.

    Chorus
    You down with entropy?
    Yeah, you know me! (x3)
    Who's down with entropy?
    Every last homey!

    Verse 2
    Defining entropy as disorder's not complete,
    'cause disorder as a definition doesn't cover heat.
    So my first definition I would now like to withdraw,
    and offer one that fits thermodynamics second law.
    First we need to understand that entropy is energy,
    energy that can't be used to state it more specifically.
    In a closed system entropy always goes up,
    that's the second law, now you know what's up.

    You can't win, you can't break even, you can't leave the game,
    'cause entropy will take it all 'though it seems a shame.
    The second law, as we now know, is quite clear to state,
    that entropy must increase and not dissipate.

    Creationists always try to use the second law,
    to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
    The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
    only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
    The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
    so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!
    That, in a nutshell, is what entropy's about,
    you're now down with a discount.

    Chorus

    Trash Talk
    Hit it!
    Doomsday, kick it in!
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    Edited by Sticks Calhoun at 10/09/09 7:03 AM Sticks Calhoun was starred Sticks Calhoun was unstarred
    Image of Petey-ed Petey-ed
    10/09/09

    @Incindre: Well, I could be wrong, but I believe entropy is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.
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    Sticks Calhoun promoted this comment Petey-ed was starred Petey-ed was unstarred
    Image of reluttr reluttr
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    Meh, they cry wolf about every 10 years now.

    Ive gotten to the point I don't really care anymore, I mean whats the point if you waist your time left worrying?
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    Sticks Calhoun promoted this comment reluttr was starred reluttr was unstarred
    Image of Sticks Calhoun Sticks Calhoun
    10/09/09

    @reluttr: This is either brilliance or stupidity.
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    Image of KingSnakeX4 KingSnakeX4
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    I love you mom...
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    CustomFirmware promoted this comment KingSnakeX4 was starred KingSnakeX4 was unstarred
    Image of BdGF10 BdGF10
    10/09/09

    In reply to Researchers Made Mistake In Calculations, World Is Ending Sooner Than Expected
    "Glaciers melting in the dead of night
    And the superstars sucked into the supermassive" -Muse

    ...As long as I am not paying for my broadband by the bit.
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    Identity less than three promoted this comment Edited by BdGF10 at 10/09/09 1:06 AM BdGF10 was starred BdGF10 was unstarred
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