I was about to brag about how I was still running a previous version that, as of two weeks ago, still allowed Hulu to stream though mine. But then I opened iTunes to see which version it had, *sigh* I guess mine updated automatically. That shows how often we use it. I too am in the process of figuring out the best route to eliminate our cable. I'm leaning towards replacing the Apple TV with a Mac Mini or something else set up as a HTPC, at least until Apple can pull off this: [gizmodo.com]#appletv
@Scratic: Hulu and any other sources for free on-demand content would make the AppleTV so much better. I like being able to watch photos and pod-casts and YouTube on the TV, but it isn't enough to make it worth while. I also keep my AppleTV unplugged most of the time because of the heat. Rentals and buys have been replaced by my blu-ray player and Netflix subscription, so there's not much about it that I need.
As far as ditching cable goes, I just don't see how you do that. The ability to channel surf almost makes my Dish bill acceptable. Not sure I could live without that even if I could download all my favorite shows.
@PotteryBarnClearanceSale: Hulu on AppleTV was great while it lasted, albeit kind of choppy. As far unplugging cable goes, we already DVR almost everything we watch, so we're accustomed to watching on demand. The shows that we don't record (Community and Moderen Family are new favorites) are all network, which can be picked up through an HD antennae. The cable shows that we watch are almost all available through iTunes. A season pass for three of them is still less than one month cable. I will miss the convenience of flipping through channels. This is how I've found some favorite shows in the past. (Pawn Stars comes to mind, I will miss that guilty pleasure.) I'm hoping a side effect will be that we read more and listen to more music. #appletv
I use mine quite a bit--part of the "ditch cable" movement. As an A/V retailer I furnish and install a few of these per month. Really not a bad box. Could it be better? Of course. Could they add something like Netflix streaming? Sure. But hey, it works. #appletv
@PotteryBarnClearanceSale: ATV can sit on a shelf or there is a cute little wall bracket available that holds it flat against a wall or cabinet. Mine (and others) don't seem to get "hot". Warm, sure but not enough for concern. I have had Comcast DVRs get lots warmer and need a fan. #appletv
I received that email yesterday. Sadly, I rarely use my AppleTV anymore and there really isn't anything on it that I don't care to lose. Says a lot about the product... #appletv
DL'd it .. it looks horrible : ( .. unless you like stop motion Legos then it would look great .. I have a 50 Mps Comcrap connection .. so its just the way they have it ... to bad .. great selection of internet tv shows .. they just need HD now #windows7mediacenter
@UnderLoK: I've found the WM7 interface to be much more responsive than the Vista MC was.
It also has a much more modern look and seems to me to be much better overall.
The major complaints i've seen with it are mostly for people in europe using dvbt tuners, which doesn't really affect US users. #windows7mediacenter
This is the beginning to the end of Apple (iTunes) having a monopoly on music players. I can see Palm going down the legal road of making its case that Apple only allows Apple music players to connect to iTunes and how it's a monopoly.
My appreciation for the Pre aside, I think if anything, this shows Palm is really working hard to make the OS as good as possible. If you've been around the hacking community, you'd also notice they've been oddly helpful for those guys too(though maybe not too big of a surprise, after seeing what they are doing with iTunes).
The thing I like about the Pre is that pretty much every complaint people have about it can be resolved via updates, except the hardware issues(which have been diminishing lately).
It can indeed cut stuff though. Might be useful when I go back to college in upper manhattan!
@napilopez: " If you've been around the hacking community, you'd also notice they've been oddly helpful for those guys too(though maybe not too big of a surprise, after seeing what they are doing with iTunes)."
That is something I can respect about the Pre. The way app-aproval works on the iPhone is bull-shit. Apple does not care about their devolopers very much (I say this as a fan of the iPhone though).
I hate the new sounds. It sounds like it is a crap version of the notification sound. You can not even hear it. Give us the ability to change the sounds our self, or just stop messing with them. I need louder sounds as this is a work phone, quite don't cut it.
@Brian Wood: Meh, I like it better. The old one was annoying. Still would be better for them to just give you the ability to change the sounds, but they've pretty much assured us that's coming in a future update.
@cnewhall: Motion approved. But we should give up on the fanboy-ism and give constructive comments. Just because we don't like an OS or Smartphone doesn't mean that everyone will hate it too. You get to choose what you want whenever you want it.
@Axelph: Plus I have this awesome right that lets me speak my opinion too! Have either of you actually used both a Pre and, for comparisons sake, an iPhone (a Blackberry would work too, they all cost about the same)? I wanted a Pre quite a bit before they came out, but after actually using one I changed my mind. Next time I say something negative I will add something constructive like: "So to sum it up, I would not recommend buying this".
@cnewhall: I have and I respectfully say that you're full of shit.
The iPhone OS, Android and WebOS are the three best options for consumer smartphones available currently. (Ignoring Windows Mobile 6.5 because it isn't available outside of hacking) These three will hopefully continue to improve on each other, which only serves to further OS progress for all platforms. This is a good thing.
@cnewhall: I don't get the hatred. Cards are a great idea for multitasking, and it's still in its infancy. People gave the iPhone OS a chance, and it turned out okay.
Seriously people. Basically all I said was I like Android better. You don't have to get all fanboy-ish on my ass. And to all of you claiming I can't have tried one, just because I don't own one or spend hours on my buddies Pre doesn't mean I didn't play around with one for a few minutes then decide I hate it. Maybe I didn't give it enough time, maybe I should give it another chance when a newer version comes out. Maybe my opinion IS based off of much too little time with the phone and too much of what I have read. Or maybe I just don't give a f*ck, and you guys need to quit crying and calling me a liar just because I don't like your beloved Pre.
@cnewhall: Can't a guy sum up his opionion (no matter how worthless and un-educated it is) in a short, sarcastic but non-agressive statement without being attacked?
Oh that's right, this is the internet, everyone's own opionion is the correct one and you had better watch out if you speak against them.
I own and love Apple products, but I absolutely love that Palm is telling them to shove it on this!
Let the Pre sync with iTunes! Hell, let anything sync with iTunes, it just means more people will use your store, Apple... though I personally endorse Amazon's MP3 store over iTunes.
@stickyd: Apple is never going to sue Palm. You're not seeing the big picture here. What is really legal is the question. Apple practically dictates what goes on in the digital music market. They're in a near-monopoly position. The legality of their domination is starting to come into question, never mind palm's attempts to ride their coattails a little. If they attempt to close off other competitors from direct competition (i.e. Palm), they'll catch a lot of unfair market practices flak from the federal government. If they're seen as discouraging fair competition, they can lose a lot more than exclusive itunes access.
I own an iPod, a Pre, and an AppleTV (yes, one of the 6 people that has one, and actually like it for playing music in the living room). The reason I like this move by Palm is because it allows me to use 1 program for all of my devices. Do I think Palm is piggy-backing on iTunes and cheating by not having to develop their own program? YES! But you know what? I don't care. Apple doesn't make money from iTunes. I don't think anyone's ever said: Hmm Zune, or iPod...I'm going with an iPod because iTunes is soooooo much better. Apple make tons of $ because they make incredible products. 'Nuff said.
My music is organized just the way I like it in iTunes, and I know how to use it well. I have tried Foobar, WMP, WinAmp, Songbird, you name it and just can't get used to them. I also can't use them with my AppleTV and my iPod without jumping through hoops. So you know what? I like this. Stick it to the man Palm.
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As far as ditching cable goes, I just don't see how you do that. The ability to channel surf almost makes my Dish bill acceptable. Not sure I could live without that even if I could download all my favorite shows.
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Yep, for what it does it does it great. Netflix streaming would make it awesome.
When you do installs, where do you put it and how do you compensate for the heat? #appletv
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It also has a much more modern look and seems to me to be much better overall.
The major complaints i've seen with it are mostly for people in europe using dvbt tuners, which doesn't really affect US users. #windows7mediacenter
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The thing I like about the Pre is that pretty much every complaint people have about it can be resolved via updates, except the hardware issues(which have been diminishing lately).
It can indeed cut stuff though. Might be useful when I go back to college in upper manhattan!
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That is something I can respect about the Pre. The way app-aproval works on the iPhone is bull-shit. Apple does not care about their devolopers very much (I say this as a fan of the iPhone though).
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The iPhone OS, Android and WebOS are the three best options for consumer smartphones available currently. (Ignoring Windows Mobile 6.5 because it isn't available outside of hacking) These three will hopefully continue to improve on each other, which only serves to further OS progress for all platforms. This is a good thing.
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Oh that's right, this is the internet, everyone's own opionion is the correct one and you had better watch out if you speak against them.
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Let the Pre sync with iTunes! Hell, let anything sync with iTunes, it just means more people will use your store, Apple... though I personally endorse Amazon's MP3 store over iTunes.
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My music is organized just the way I like it in iTunes, and I know how to use it well. I have tried Foobar, WMP, WinAmp, Songbird, you name it and just can't get used to them. I also can't use them with my AppleTV and my iPod without jumping through hoops. So you know what? I like this. Stick it to the man Palm.