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    The First USB 3.0 Flash Drive Is a Wide Load

    Nvidia Confirms Intel's Senseless USB 3.0 Delay Until 2011

    Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card

    This Is the First USB 3.0 Motherboard

    Intel May Postpone USB 3.0 Support on Chipsets Until 2011

    Buffalo's HD-HU3 Poised To Be The First USB 3.0 Hard Drive

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    Image of AmphetamineCrown AmphetamineCrown
    11/04/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Flash Drive Is a Wide Load
    Yup. Fat and cutting edge. Screams "Zatoichi" to me too. #supertalent
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    Image of Intelext Intelext
    11/04/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Flash Drive Is a Wide Load
    Who would actually use a 128 gb flashdrive? I've been using a 8 gb one and it is still far from being full. #supertalent
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    Image of Dr. Evil Genius Dr. Evil Genius
    11/04/09

    @Intelext: Well, we understand that you live a clean lifestyle.

    However, there are those that value pornography. #supertalent
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    Image of MrBangBam MrBangBam
    11/04/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Flash Drive Is a Wide Load
    Maybe one day when global warming melts the polar icecaps and meteors pummel the mountains, and a submerged landless world emerges...

    I'll live inside one of these. I call the 128 GB. :) #supertalent
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    Image of Kay Thiele Kay Thiele
    11/04/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Flash Drive Is a Wide Load
    Bye, Bye Optical Media! #supertalent
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    Image of Xjep Xjep
    11/04/09

    @Kay Thiele: Bye, bye cheap media #supertalent
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    brobot promoted this comment Xjep was starred Xjep was unstarred
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    11/04/09

    @Xjep: Bye bye.... driveby media? #supertalent
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    11/04/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Flash Drive Is a Wide Load
    I wonder, 3.0 drives have got to work with 2.0 slots, just at slower speeds right? 2.0 works with 1.1..... #supertalent
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    Image of Christian Turkoanje Christian Turkoanje
    11/04/09

    @Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: 3.0 is backward compatible with 2.0 but I don't know about older 1.1 hardware. Also 3.0 has more contact areas. #supertalent
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    Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected promoted this comment Christian Turkoanje was starred Christian Turkoanje was unstarred
    Image of hodge22 hodge22
    11/04/09

    @Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: Yeah I remember reading something that it would work like that, but as a bonus you get the higher power provided to 2.0 devices, making them charge even faster. #supertalent
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    Image of Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
    11/04/09

    @hodge22: Really? Sweetness. #supertalent
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/04/09

    In reply to Nvidia Confirms Intel's Senseless USB 3.0 Delay Until 2011
    This delay is really shaking my interest in USB3, especially when the likes of eSATA and (in my case) FW800 can pick up the slack for high speed data transfer. With that, I'm glad my MBP is brand new, since by 2011 I'll still be using it as my main system, and probably won't upgrade until USB3 has lots of adoption (and hopefully in Macs) and peripherals are plentiful.
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    Image of sickforska sickforska
    11/04/09

    In reply to Nvidia Confirms Intel's Senseless USB 3.0 Delay Until 2011
    I'm okay with never ever seeing USB 3.0 if it means I see light peak in a MacBook Pro by the end of next year. #usb30
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    Image of hodge22 hodge22
    11/04/09

    In reply to Nvidia Confirms Intel's Senseless USB 3.0 Delay Until 2011
    As stated in the article, Asus already has their Mobo with 2 USB 3.0 slot on it. They have also released a 4 port USB 3.0 card as well I think. Hopefully more companies follow suit if this unnecessary delay it true. #usb30
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    Image of curious-character curious-character
    11/04/09

    In reply to Nvidia Confirms Intel's Senseless USB 3.0 Delay Until 2011
    I know nothing about USB 3.0. Anybody willing to explain how it's better than USB 2.0 so I don't have to Google it for myself? (lazy...sorry) #usb30
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    dagamer34 promoted this comment curious-character was starred curious-character was unstarred
    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    11/04/09

    @curious-character: 10x faster than USB 2.0, charge your devices faster, use less CPU cycles with large data transfers, and CPU won't need to constantly poll devices for data. #usb30
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    Image of curious-character curious-character
    11/04/09

    @dagamer34: sounds great, thanks...too bad I can't wait for it as I am in desperate need of an upgrade very soon #usb30
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    Image of CraigJ CraigJ
    11/04/09

    In reply to Nvidia Confirms Intel's Senseless USB 3.0 Delay Until 2011
    "Is there any hope?"

    Yes. Light Peek #usb30
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    MrBlahBlah promoted this comment CraigJ was starred CraigJ was unstarred
    Image of MrBlahBlah MrBlahBlah
    11/04/09

    @CraigJ: My thoughts on this: Intel is delaying UBS 3.0 in order to give Light Peek a chance to gain market share when it is released in 2010. After all, they helped design the standard, they will want to promote its adoption, even if that means unnecessarily delaying the support of competing products. #usb30
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    Image of Xelmon Xelmon
    11/04/09

    @MrBlahBlah:
    Please do expand on Light Peek... Are they the guys that devved 3.0? #usb30
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    Image of dt030 dt030
    11/04/09

    @Xelmon: its a competing standard that was developed by Intel alone (USB3 was created by a number of parties incl intel). Light Peak uses fiber optic like technology to achive it's fast speeds, but has more durablity the FO and has a copper wire for charging. It is due for comercial release some time next year. #usb30
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    Xelmon promoted this comment dt030 was starred dt030 was unstarred
    Image of Xelmon Xelmon
    11/04/09

    @dt030:
    Ahhhaaaa... Noted! #usb30
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    Image of jrblackman006 jrblackman006
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    I am going to get one of these and a USB 3.0 mouse.
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    whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII approved this comment jrblackman006 was starred jrblackman006 was unstarred
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    10/31/09

    @jrblackman006: Well done sir. Welcome to Gizmodo. #usb30
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    Gimme a low profile card PCI-E x1, and I might bite. Otherwise, I'll probably just stick with eSATA. #usb30
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    Image of whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII
    10/31/09

    @dagamer34: Judging by my skimming of the article, ASUS went with PCI-E x4 instead of x1 because of bandwidth issues.

    But maybe I'm misreading. Last night was a loooooong night. #usb30
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    Image of Peregrinvs Peregrinvs
    11/01/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: It wasn't /that/ long.

    Also, when you swap up to a better mouse, I get your old one. ;] #usb30
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    whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII promoted this comment Peregrinvs was starred Peregrinvs was unstarred
    Image of whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII
    11/02/09

    @Peregrinvs: Like hell. My mouse cannot get any better.

    Unless I find a mouse that can make nachos and pizza and get me a soda/whiskey/both, while I still use it to frag nOObs. Is that part of USB 3.0, or will I have to wait for 4.0? #usb30
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    Image of Peregrinvs Peregrinvs
    11/02/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: Then just give me your soul so I can convince Intel to give me a chipset with DDR5 ram and a couple of those fancy PCIE 2.0 SSDs.

    =D You've gotta be worth somethin', right? #usb30
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    Image of B-low B-low
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    I don't know... I don't think I would sacrifice a PCI-E slot just for a couple of USB 3 ports. Most motherboards are likely to have a surplus of SATA ports in which case it would be easier to just install some SATA to eSATA converters. The existing SATA standard already nets you 3Gbps which isn't too much slower than USB 3.0's 4.8Gbps.
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    Image of M1A1D M1A1D
    10/31/09

    @B-low: True, but you can't beat the plug-and-play convenience. Which would you rather trust granny to plug in: a USB device or an eSATA device? #usb30
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    Image of B-low B-low
    10/31/09

    @M1A1D: I'd give a granny a wireless mouse and watch while she tried to plug it in. #usb30
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    Image of Counterglow Counterglow
    10/31/09

    @B-low: @B-low: I have to disagree a little here. 3Gbps vs 4.8Gbps is a transfer speed difference of more than 60%. That's pretty significant, I think.

    I still agree generally...it's tough to sacrifice a PCI-E slot when you'll have lots of extra SATA ports. #usb30
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: If you're already transferring at 3gbps, it's hard to imagine having a file large enough for the 4.8 gbps to make a big difference. Well, on a domestic computer, at least. I guess it's the difference between a 30 second transfer, and a 20 second transfer. But that's still not much. #usb30
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    Image of christopher.feller001 christopher.feller001
    10/31/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Most of the time you're probably going to be transferring data from an internal drive with an interface speed of 3.0Gbps to an external USB drive. So you're still capped at 3.0Gbps regardless of the fact the USB interface speed is 4.8Gbps.

    Plus, I imagine there is some overhead anyway translating from SATA to USB 3.0.

    SATA and eSATA are just two different physical interfaces. They both use SATA commands.
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    FigNinja promoted this comment Pope John Peeps II approved this comment christopher.feller001 was starred christopher.feller001 was unstarred
    Image of EQC EQC
    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: Shouldn't we first determine how much of that 4.8 Gbps is available in the real world?

    High speed USB 2.0 is rated at 480 Mbps = 60 MB/s...but in the real world, you're lucky to be able to get half of that. As I understand it, the real-world limit is due to overhead, extra processing, etc. in the spec. I've never seen any device that can actually transfer even 45 MB/s over USB 2.0.

    Do we know if the 4.8 Gbps is going to actually be achievable? #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @B-low: That's why you don't get sugar cookies when you go visit Nana! #usb30
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    Image of rentahero1 rentahero1
    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: Seeing as only the most elite RAM-based "hard drive" devices can even think of touching 3Gbps currently, forget it. 4.8 isn't gonna happen for you. #usb30
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    Image of Sneaky0 Sneaky0
    10/31/09

    @B-low: 3Gbps and 4.8Gps are both great speeds, but what devices are there that's capable of those speeds. #usb30
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    Image of B-low B-low
    10/31/09

    @Sneaky0: Right now nothing that I'm aware of. Some NAS setups in RAID are well capable of write speeds in excess of 500MBps or over 4Gbps but I think at those thresholds you begin to see bottle necks all over the place. I'm not sure if many CPUs can handle data transfer at that rate. #usb30
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    Image of PanhandleJoe PanhandleJoe
    10/31/09

    @B-low: It *will* matter when things like card readers, still cameras, and camcorders, etc. start coming along with USB 3.0 support. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @PanhandleJoe: Support and read/write speeds are not the same thing. #usb30
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    Image of Sneaky0 Sneaky0
    10/31/09

    @B-low: That's what I meant. Without a raid setup or similar, reaching those speeds are nearly impossible. Also the average users don't even know what a raid is. It's great having a connection that's capable of those speeds, but until manufacturers start making fast disks at consumer prices. These connections are somewhat useless in the real world. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Sneaky0: Agreed! #usb30
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    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    Are there ANY USB 3.0 devices right now? #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Iggy: Of course their is, we all know about those pci cards thats asus is selling... #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Iggy: .... asus had a test usb 3.0 drive and going from 2.0-3.0 did increase transfer rates quite a bit

    [www.pcper.com] #usb30
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    Image of spannu spannu
    10/29/09

    In reply to This Is the First USB 3.0 Motherboard
    this board is fast and danger #usb
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