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11/12/09
Also, I've been wondering, if Verizon were to get the iPhone, I wouldn't have to pay an ETF if I just bought the phone outright for $600-700, no? And there wouldn't be a contract extension either?
I think that would be the best of both worlds. A good wireless network now, and the posibility of a new phone should Apple get it's act together. Otherwise, it's all LTE next year for me baby! #verizonwireless
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You'll just have the lower, original ETF if you buy it before Sunday. Of course, that's just how it APPEARS to me, I could be totally incorrect. #verizonwireless
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A linear formula that evaluates to $0 at the end of the contract seems right. #verizonwireless
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If it was Lost would the iphone be Jack or Locke? I'm going with Locke.. #3g
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@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: I'm not really sure... but I think it would look like this...
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[en.wikipedia.org]) #3g
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Now if everything non-network on Sprint didnt suck so hard I would be keeping them in 2010. #3g
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We don't know how much the droid is/is not crippled, because it's not being sold anywhere else in the world right now. #3g
11/12/09
@Lite : It's a pretty good indicator that it's not crippled when the OS (compared to v1.5 w/wo Sense UI and v1.6) still has essentially all of the capabilities intact. Verizon even kept the crapware off of it. I'd be majorly surprised if the Droid showed up overseas with a ton of abilities that were disabled on Verizon. But then again they say the Milestone has multitouch.
We'll see when the Milestone hits Europe in a few weeks.
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Id love a really robust android phone (keyboardless) before then so I can switch to that. #3g
11/09/09
All I want is for att to invest some capital into its network, but what's the point, they'll have to come up with something faster in the near future.
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"Here's what that ad does not tell you.
Verizon uses EV-DO Rev A for data, which is the 3rd generation of CDMA. It's not even a true 3g technology, 3g is defined as wcdma, or UMTS. It allows download speeds of 600 kbit/s to 1.4 Mbit/s and uploading speeds of 500-800 kbit/s.
AT&T uses UMTS, a.k.a. WCDMA, and allows download speeds of 7.2 Mbit/s, with theoritical speeds of 21mbits/s. This is the network shown on the ad's in question and is in most major metro area's right now and still growing.
If you do not have a 3G connection with AT&T you're on the EDGE network. The EDGE network allows download speeds of 400kbit/s to 1.0 mbit/s which is available in over 1.75 million square miles and reaches 256 million people in the united states.
So, in short:
Verizon: 600kb to 1.4mb almost everywhere in the US
AT&T: 400kb to 1.0 mb almost everywhere in the US and 7.2mb UMTS HSPDA 3G in most major cities. And, with AT&T you can simultaneously do data and voice while in 3g coverage. With Verizon you cannot.
So Verizon is slamming AT&T trying to compare a "3G technology" to AT&T's "3G Network" when Verizon's "3G" data rate speeds is only 200kb to 400kb faster than AT&T's "2G" network?"
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They have pretend 3g, verizon 3g is about as good as the 2g your getting (you get 1Mbps, they get 3Mbps).
Att 2g coverage is about equal to verizon '3g'. While true 3g (at 7+Mbps) is limited as it is very new to america #3g
11/08/09
A. Thats just one form of HSDPA. Its all a 3G technology. By that logic T-mobile must be rolling out 4G with their 21Mbps coverage.
B. Find me in the real world where you're actually getting the theoretical limits. EV-DO Rev. A tops out (theoretically) at 3.1 which is the same as 3.1's theoretical max. BGR did a (decisively non-scientific) study a while back and found that most aren't getting anywhere near the theoretical limits. VZW's EV-DO rev A. hit 701kbps and AT&T got 933. A difference but not really a major one. #3g
11/09/09
Now im pretty sure if the T rolls out 21Mbps it will be considered as 4g by most (hell its twice as fast as my computer!!!!) #3g
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Someone in Verizon's Marketing dept. is getting some coal this year. And by coal I mean huge fraking bonus. #3g
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