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    Image of Turing_Machine Turing_Machine
    11/17/09

    In reply to Viacom Top Lawyer on Obliterating Peer-to-Peer Users
    Jesus Diaz, if you don't comprehend, I suggest you re-read the article. It explains the concepts very carefully, and to pretend that it doesn't make sense because you disagree with the value statement makes you intellectually dishonest. Disagree, but don't pretend you don't comprehend. #viacom
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    Nick promoted this comment Turing_Machine was starred Turing_Machine was unstarred
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    11/17/09

    @Turing_Machine: hold up. i am not entirely sure what you're saying here. you want jesus to do what exactly? #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @Nick: No one tells Jesus what to do. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @AndrosZ: You said it man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus. #viacom
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    spannu promoted this comment psychiccheese was starred psychiccheese was unstarred
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    11/17/09

    @Nick: the lack of comprehension here I don't feel is real. Señor Fricklas, as Jesus referred to him, said he feels for users, and doesn't want to target 'fair use', and has already focused on direct copies. That is his advice, and that is what the enforcement goes after.

    However, copyright law isn't as simplistic as that. If you don't aggressively enforce all rights you have, the relative value of that property goes down. I'm not a lawyer, but I do stay current, and I've read some of the major rulings like Eldridge V. Ashcroft, and I can't say that I agree on a moral level, but on a logical structure, you can't half-step protection of your property.

    I felt that Jesus implying that the lawyer feeling bad about the requirements of law, but doing his job correctly, not immorally, made it seem silly. Sorry. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @Turing_Machine: don't feel bad. i am just a wisenheimer. #viacom
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    Image of Curves Curves
    11/17/09

    In reply to Viacom Top Lawyer on Obliterating Peer-to-Peer Users
    The guy is doing his job to the best of his ability, and IMHO you cant fault someone for that. Its not easy doing a job no one likes you for.

    As far as peer to peer, they can close the sites, but that wont stop it. The more they push, the more we will push back. The end result is no winner. Maybe its time we rethought the game and decided how to go from lose/lose to win/win. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @Curves:

    "Its not easy doing a job no one likes you for."

    yeah but it IS easy to, you know, get another job. #viacom
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    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/17/09

    @nutbastard: A surprising thing to say given the current state of things in this country. #viacom
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    SigmundTheSeaMonster promoted this comment MarcusMaximus was starred MarcusMaximus was unstarred
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    11/17/09

    @MarcusMaximus:

    we're talking viacoms top lawyer. i dont think he's short on options. #viacom
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    Image of SigmundTheSeaMonster SigmundTheSeaMonster
    11/17/09

    @MarcusMaximus: There are plenty of jobs. It's whether you want to "do" that kind of work...or not. And for that little pay.
    Personally, if I could collect welfare, and live in a decent apartment, with controlled rent, and walk/subway to whatever I need...shityeah... #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @nutbastard: Even dirty jobs have to get done. I have one of those jobs, and its not fun at times, but, I do it to the best of my ability anyway. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @Curves:

    while i dont dispute the dirtiness of his job, i do call into question whether or not this particular job (suing p2p users) HAS to get done. there's cleaning out the latrines and then there's jailing potheads - both dirty jobs, but only one HAS to get done. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @SigmundTheSeaMonster:

    when the height of ones aspirations is to suck on the government teat, one must seriously reconsider the definition of 'living'. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @Curves: Even dirty jobs have to get done.

    Watch "Dirty Jobs" w/Mike Rowe every Tuesday at 9 on Discovery. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    @Nick: Mike Rowe has yet to be a lawyer. Being a lawyer is a different type of "dirty".
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    11/17/09

    @Nick: if i had the power to, I would promote this comment #viacom
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    Curves promoted this comment Nelson was starred Nelson was unstarred
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    11/17/09

    @Nelson: I do, and did. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Viacom Top Lawyer on Obliterating Peer-to-Peer Users
    "I really don't get it. If he really thinks this, why doesn't he advise another course of action?"

    Because he is a lawyer. He has no soul. Look into his eyes... What do you see? Nothing. Absolutely nothing... #viacom
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Viacom Top Lawyer on Obliterating Peer-to-Peer Users
    Ha ha, it's a really great one from a pretty good lawyer. Message: we're human. So we need to make a buck, hoist a few students from the rafters to protect our business model. Doesn't mean we don't feel bad about it. But it's a dog eat dog world out there... #viacom
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    nutbastard promoted this comment thatsmrpotatohead2U was starred thatsmrpotatohead2U was unstarred
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    11/17/09

    @thatsmrpotatohead2U:

    from a lawyer, it's more like this:

    "Message*: we**'re human.***"

    * 'Message' does not indicate a definitive statement. Views and opinions expressed within 'Message' are those of the author, and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of the hosting website, Viacom, or any of its parent companies or subsidiaries.

    ** 'We' refers to the author of the 'Message'*, and is not intended to refer to all practitioners of Law.

    *** 'Human' means "bipedal primate belonging to the species Homo sapiens". Viacom makes no claim, express or implied, regarding the humanity of Homo erectus, Homo habilis, or Homo floresiensis #viacom
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Viacom Top Lawyer on Obliterating Peer-to-Peer Users
    I'd advise any folks here to read the rest of that article. The guy isn't a hardcore repentant turncoat like the excerpt makes it sound. But it's a good read on the perspective of a fairly reasonable guy on the opposite side of the fence.

    His current support for graduated response still worries me. Especially that he'd prefer the courts not get involved. The fact that he at least advocates some kind of appeals process is encouraging, though. Just...a tiny bit. #viacom
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Viacom Top Lawyer on Obliterating Peer-to-Peer Users
    "I really don't get it. If he really thinks this, why doesn't he advise another course of action? "

    Because Viacom pays his bills and his conscience doesn't. #viacom
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/17/09

    In reply to Viacom Top Lawyer on Obliterating Peer-to-Peer Users
    You'd think with such a heinously grizzly murderous blockquote, it would have more abbreviated laughter, or at least more expletives. #viacom
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/17/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: #viacom
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    Image of TehViking TehViking
    08/16/09

    In reply to Comcast Could Be Quietly Preparing Plan to Control Pipes and Content
    Weary? Really?
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    Homerjay. Good and good for you. promoted this comment TehViking was starred TehViking was unstarred
    Image of Homerjay is utterly alone. Homerjay is utterly alone.
    08/16/09

    @TehViking: I like he meant leery.
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    Image of DeusExMach wonders what the hell happened to his star. DeusExMach wonders what the hell happened to his star.
    08/17/09

    @Homerjay. Good and good for you.: Bleary?
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    08/16/09

    In reply to Comcast Could Be Quietly Preparing Plan to Control Pipes and Content
    If they try to buy TWC, I hope they get so much anti-trust up their @$$ that they'll drop that purchase in a WEEK.
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    switchblade saints promoted this comment dagamer34 was starred dagamer34 was unstarred
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    08/16/09

    @dagamer34: Time Warner Cable is not owned or under Time Warner INC. any longer. We split last year.
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    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    08/16/09

    @switchblade saints: !! You work for Time Warner Cable!? ...Wow. First, OMG! Ponies is a lawyer, then GitEmSteveDave is a farmer, and now you're a lackey for TWC. Who knew? o.o
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    08/17/09

    @(Starman) AnalysisDialysis: pays very well, and secure. We've been hiring throughout the recession. I have no shame
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    Image of Hiphopopotamus Hiphopopotamus
    08/16/09

    In reply to Comcast Could Be Quietly Preparing Plan to Control Pipes and Content
    I hope they're bringing back UPN!
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    Image of ReynaldoRiv ReynaldoRiv
    08/16/09

    @Hiphopopotamus:
    ......
    I thought that star MEANT something...
    You were always so insightful.....
    Your SN is fucking awesome!!......
    Your avatar so distinctive.......

    Please tell me that was sarcasm, otherwise my view of you will be tainted by the fact you enjoyed UPN.

    "Hiphopopotamus? Yeah, he's cool, but he kinda watches UPN."
    "Eeewwww"
    "I know."
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    08/17/09


    @ReynaldoRiv: Classic Pfeiffer
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    Image of Ryanraven Ryanraven
    08/16/09

    In reply to Comcast Could Be Quietly Preparing Plan to Control Pipes and Content
    I for one welcome our new COMCASTIC overlords!
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    08/16/09

    In reply to Comcast Could Be Quietly Preparing Plan to Control Pipes and Content
    Damn it! Not TWC! I have TWC! This makes me sad in my pants. =(
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    switchblade saints promoted this comment punk1n13 was starred punk1n13 was unstarred
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    08/16/09

    @punk1n13: Time Warner Cable is not owned or under Time Warner INC. any longer
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    08/16/09

    In reply to Comcast Could Be Quietly Preparing Plan to Control Pipes and Content
    It's good to hear they might do something with the money they're raping me of each month.
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    Ryanraven promoted this comment Jux was starred Jux was unstarred
    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    08/16/09

    @Jux needs a new name for his fantasy football team: Just be grateful they won't be wasting it on something stupid. Like extending infrastructure.
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    08/16/09

    @Fractal the Meek: or improving speeds.....
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    Image of discounteggroll discounteggroll
    12/31/08

    In reply to Would You Leave Time Warner Cable if They Lost Viacom Channels?
    I haven't watched nickelodeon since they canned SNICK (the early snick-not the garbage they introduced later on).


    Hulu for everything else. If it's truly funny, it will make it's way onto the information supa highway.

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    Image of 92BuickLeSabre 92BuickLeSabre
    12/31/08

    In reply to Would You Leave Time Warner Cable if They Lost Viacom Channels?
    Nopity-dope.


    As long as I can get the ABC and NBC network families , CNN, and AMC (for Mad Men), it's all copacetic.

     Reply
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