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    Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness

    VMWare Fusion 3 Fuses Snow Leopard and Windows 7 With Full 64-Bit Power

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    Image of thatsmrpotatohead2U thatsmrpotatohead2U
    11/04/09

    In reply to Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness
    I, like millions of others, use macs at home and windows fista at work. Someone tell me objectively please, is running windows via Parallels or VMWare the real thing, or is it one of those quasi - underwater experiences where everything runs ultra slowly and you feel like you're going to die of a panic attack before anything happens? #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    @thatsmrpotatohead2U: It works really well, at least in my experience. I use VMWare Fusion 2 to run a Windows 7 virtual machine and it works really well. The only headache is that sometimes the control key acts up when I'm using Unity.

    (Unity is where Windows apps run in os x) #parallels5
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    Image of thatsmrpotatohead2U thatsmrpotatohead2U
    11/05/09

    @bagellord: This looks to me (yes a newbie at it) another layer of system level software, do you see this kind of thing eventually merging with system software so that Fusion, Unity etc effectively run in the background and all you get are apps that run together without any kinks cos they are from different universes, as it were? #parallels5
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    Image of nevergetitwet nevergetitwet
    11/04/09

    In reply to Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness
    win7 on Mac using virtual box works just fine. why pay for something you can get for free? #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    @nevergetitwet: Because as far as I know you can't use a bootcamp partition with VirtualBox. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I like having boot camp on my laptop for battery savings. #parallels5
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    Image of blachole blachole
    11/04/09

    In reply to Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness
    oh god damit I knew they were going to do this right after the fusion 3 release..now I need to wait on some reviews before I switch back and upgrade.. #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness
    I found out the hard way that Parallels and Fusion don't coexist well using the same Boot Camp partition. But with all the issues I've had with Fusion so far, I'm curious about Parallels. If it goes on sale, I might give it another shot. #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness
    I've been using Virtualbox 3.0 to run 64 bit Windows 7 on the 64 bit SL kernel, waiting for Fusion. It's been running so well, I see no reason to shell out the upgrade fee.

    In fact, I feel it's BS that VMWare didn't at least patch fusion 2.x to make it run on the 64-bit kernel.
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    Image of Joshua Jackson Joshua Jackson
    11/04/09

    In reply to Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness
    actually they're offering existing users an upgrade for $39 just like the previous versions. #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    @Joshua Jackson: For the next 14 days only... So Matt, please review soon! #parallels5
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    Image of aawordy aawordy
    11/04/09

    @lostarchitect: I have parallels and when I click upgrade it says $49.99....where can you get it for $39.99 #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    @aawordy: I got an email from Parallels about it. #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    @lostarchitect: cool I will check my email. #parallels5
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Parallels 5 Runs Windows 7 Right Next to Snow Leopard With Full Multitouchiness
    In my opinion, this is what makes Mac OS X better than any Windows regurgitation: the ability to run Windows on a Mac machine. This way, the best of both worlds are realized, but the fact that it is supported on one machine is just awesome. #parallels5
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    Image of jordannmeyers001 jordannmeyers001
    11/04/09

    @red_alert360: Your logic is flawed. By saying an operating system that can only run on specific hardware is better than one that can run on virtually anything is backwards.
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    Image of HelloYouAll HelloYouAll
    11/04/09

    @red_alert360: It is very feasible to do the same on a windows system. Of course, Apple has no intentions on letting PC users run OSX on a PC and the effect is exactly what is happening to you. You think that been able to run mac and windows at the same time is a Mac sole feature... In my opinion it is very stupid to support a company that puts so many restrictions on you, thanks God Apple is not the dominant software company. #parallels5
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    Image of mmmiles mmmiles
    11/04/09

    @HelloYouAll: I think you mean "Apple isn't dumb enough to foot the bill for supporting every crappy piece of hardware out there".

    I don't want Apple to run on every PC, because I would have to pay for that "privilege" and suffer the additional instability of a system that needs to be able to communicate with every piece of hardware ever made.

    My WinXP machines are very stable, but Fusion 2 on my MBP still wins out in stability (0 crashes in 2 years on fusion, 2 for Dell Inspiron with same specs), thanks to Apple's tight hardware control. #parallels5
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    Image of Don Nguyen Don Nguyen
    11/04/09

    @jordannmeyers001: You sir, are ready to take the LSAT. #parallels5
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    Image of Don Nguyen Don Nguyen
    11/04/09

    @mmmiles: I don't think you can draw any statistically significant concusion from 1 crash per 365 days versus zero crashes per 365 days. #parallels5
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    11/11/09

    @mmmiles: Any Virtual Machine will be more stable than their real HW counterpart. Virtual machines are made to be stable with a set of generic and standard virtual devices that are known to work and don't suffer HW defects. Yet again, thanks God Apple is the underdog in this race. While MS gets criticized and ridiculed by Apple, they have to recognize that is MS the company that drivers innovation and change in the PC market, Apple is a big influence however, but if they were in MS position we would be having very nice looking and solid build systems using recessed technology renewed once they believe the market is ready to pay for something better. The PC industry would not be as free as it is now a days. #parallels5
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    10/27/09

    In reply to VMWare Fusion 3 Fuses Snow Leopard and Windows 7 With Full 64-Bit Power
    Blasphemy. #fusion3
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    Image of itchytooth itchytooth
    10/27/09

    In reply to VMWare Fusion 3 Fuses Snow Leopard and Windows 7 With Full 64-Bit Power
    Anyone tried playing blu-ray movies on a Mac with VMWare Fusion? I'm wondering if my recent model Mini could handle it via virtualization. #fusion3
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    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    10/27/09

    In reply to VMWare Fusion 3 Fuses Snow Leopard and Windows 7 With Full 64-Bit Power
    I am currently running Vista 64 in a VM Machine - can I first upgrade to Fusion 3 and then upgrade the Win Virtual Machine to Win 7? Just to make it trickier, my Virtual Machine installation is also a Bootcamp partition. #fusion3
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    Image of Michael Roy Michael Roy
    10/27/09

    @Canoehead: yes, you can do that #fusion3
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    Image of Monty Monty
    10/27/09

    In reply to VMWare Fusion 3 Fuses Snow Leopard and Windows 7 With Full 64-Bit Power
    What percentage of the OS for Snow Leopard and Windows 7 is truly 64 bit? I understand they have been converting it pieces at a time, but there has been some debate in the developer community whether the speed improvements have been entirely from converting it or whether the re-write itself could have shown a significant amount of the improvement in 32 bit. Also, by merely supporting 64 bit, are we truly seeing the speed improvement through this support? I assume so, but we have had some experiences with ESX, depending on the cycle of the moon, that improvements like this have been minimal at best. #fusion3
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    Image of matt buchanan matt buchanan
    10/27/09

    @Monty: It runs as a native 64-bit process in snow leopard, meaning it has access to more than 4GB of ram. #fusion3
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    Image of trevisol trevisol
    10/27/09

    @Monty: Well the 64-bit advantage primarily has to do with memory addressing I believe. With a 64-bit Snow Leopard machine running 64-bit VMWare Fusion, running 64-bit Windows 7, you'd have, first of all, a base OS that can address more than 4GB of ram (which is important if you want to give your Windows 7 Guest OS a significant amount of RAM). The more this filters down, it gives those crazy cats running Mac Pro's with 16GB of RAM the ability to run Windows 7 with 8GB of RAM.

    In Snow Leopard, of the 25 or so System Processes in Activity Monitor, only two (lsd and kernel_task) are not 64-bit.

    Most apps I run (Firefox, Filemaker Pro, Office 2008 etc) are still running in 32-bit mode.

    One disturbing thing is that Adobe's Creative Suite 4 runs in 32-bit mode apparently. I would think, other than VMWare Fusion, that Photoshop would be the next application in line to receive gobs of RAM. . . . #fusion3
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    10/27/09

    @matt buchanan: Brilliant - thank you, Matt. That was the reason we made some switches on our servers to 64 bit as well -- how quickly I forget. Clearly my memory is still stuck in the 8 bit world at 32K. #fusion3
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    Image of TheSonOfKrypton TheSonOfKrypton
    10/27/09

    In reply to VMWare Fusion 3 Fuses Snow Leopard and Windows 7 With Full 64-Bit Power
    Why run only a specific subset of operating systems when you can run any damn operating system you please? Eh? #fusion3
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    10/27/09

    @TheSonOfKrypton: I know! That's why I'm switching back! I only need a browser and an e-mail client. #fusion3
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