My wife and I have been contemplating replacing "Ol' Bessie", our 32" Trinitron 4/3. I was just looking at some Panasonic plasmas at Costco... 50" 1080p for $850 AND it's well regarded on AVS Forums. Considering the panel life is comparable to current LCD tube life, I'm willing to get something good that will work 6-10 years until large OLED panels become mainstream.
@dingus: I picked up a 50" Panny a few months back, paid for with BestBuy money (the only time I condone feeding those bastards is when it costs them money, i.e., 0% interest for 3 years - time-value-of-money... another story). I absolutely love it. The ONLY problem I have with it, is that it makes me want a bigger one! It just looks incredible, And I don't have a dark room, just turn the shades the other way. Love it, recommend it, especially after HDGuru's review of the G10 (which I have).
I never thought Vizio would even make it to the top ten..
Never thought their are THAT many cheap ignorant idiots that only see size of tv and it's flatness, THATs it! this whole deal gives me an Alabama feeling.
I never fully understood why Plasma drifted so quickly. It introduced us to the idea that TV's could be thin and light. I still don't see why the Rear Projection market is still here.
@Hackintosh: Plasma screens are just being pushed out by LCDs which are more advanced but are only slightly more expensive. Rear projection TVs are still around because they are cheap relative to size.
@Hello Mister Walrus: @Hello Mister Walrus: LCD's are not more advanced. In fact, LCD technology is older than plasma technology. We've had LCD's since at least the 1970's, whereas plasma is 1990's tech. LCD's have come a long way but they still have their problems.
Both plasma and LCD have their pluses and minuses. However, for regular TV watching, plasma still gives a better picture and likely *always* will - it just has intrinsic properties that are better suited to TV. The main reason LCD has a bigger market share is that historically it has been a lot cheaper than plasma for a set with the same basic specs, but that has changed dramatically in the last year or so.
Vizios arent terrible but they are sub-par, and that's coming from me, a cheap-skate. My aunt who knows nothing bought one and was impressed by the size and clear picture, so that is technically what they are getting. I mean, if you don't go out and examine every HDTV then I'd guess you'd probably be pretty happy with it. As for me, I will wait until I have enough money for one of the Deals of the Day Tv's on here. Hopefully something 47" and somewhere along panasonic or toshiba quality.
The image quality of Vizios can't compare to the premium brands. But they're no bad at all. I bought a 26' refurb for $250 from Buy.com and I'm pretty happy with it. The big question is: will it last a while before something goes wrong with it?
@tande04: Patent disputes are rarely about tech actually being stolen. Often, you have cases of parallel though or readily available methods that someone happens to patent in hopes of blocking competition.
If the dispute goes away, Sharp can sell TV's here. That means more competition, no?
Vizio is picking up the specs nicely on their LCDs (240 hz LED). Even though I probably wouldn't buy a Vizio, hopefully the competition should push the price down on similarly speced sets from premium manufacturers.
@my name is jonas: I think Vizio is taking aim at the big boys and proving you can put out decent quality and not gouge people for it. I give them another generation or 2 before they really step things up and offer more comparable features (i.e. ports and inputs) for less than their big name competitors
@Cordfucious of Tech Clan: The question remains if they can deliver a quality product. The tech is great as long as the consumer doesn't have to constantly call for tech support.
@Cordfucious of Tech Clan: I'm still not going for one, as I still never have seen one that impresses me.
But, if you do want a deal, go for a Panasonic Viera. there are various levels of them, but they have some pretty inexpensive models as well and from what I have seen (though it was a high end model) Vizio doesn't really even compare.
@Dr. Evil Genius: I don't think they have a reliability issue. I just think their tech is not top notch, how could it be. I doubt they have the R&D budget of they big boys, but for what they are working with they have a formula that's hard to beat right now. I think they are on the way up to tier 2 status very quickly
Considering I have seen better blacks on non-LED backlit Samsung TVs half the price, I call shenanigans on the comparison test. That, and it looks like they have the dynamic contrast modes that everyone reviewing the TVs tells you to turn off set to high.
Ahhh Vizio, the little off brand that could. Picture isn't as nice as my 60 toshiba DLP, nor some of my buddies higher end TVs at the same size (32 inch). But there are a few higher end name brands that Ive seen exhibit ghosting that is nonexistent on my vizio. Case in point my cousin bought a Samsung for $950, picture is nice but ghosting appears in the blacks, my vizio cost half that and the image is superior.
bottom line - if you have over $2k to blow on a TV, don't get a vizio, regardless of specs. if you have $500 to blow on a tv, do get a vizio, as name brand tv's under $500 are either lower resolution or 4-6 inches smaller for the same price.
my pops has a sony that is the same size as my tv. it looks better, of course, than my vizio. but it doesn't look "costs twice as much for the same size tv" better.
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the only thing is that Sony's divisions act like separate companies all together and compete internally and so I do not see that happening at all.
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Never thought their are THAT many cheap ignorant idiots that only see size of tv and it's flatness, THATs it! this whole deal gives me an Alabama feeling.
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Both plasma and LCD have their pluses and minuses. However, for regular TV watching, plasma still gives a better picture and likely *always* will - it just has intrinsic properties that are better suited to TV. The main reason LCD has a bigger market share is that historically it has been a lot cheaper than plasma for a set with the same basic specs, but that has changed dramatically in the last year or so.
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Don't steal other people's shit.
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If the dispute goes away, Sharp can sell TV's here. That means more competition, no?
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But, if you do want a deal, go for a Panasonic Viera. there are various levels of them, but they have some pretty inexpensive models as well and from what I have seen (though it was a high end model) Vizio doesn't really even compare.
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Well this is kind of lame...
If this means cheaper TVs than I'm in.
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LED. RTFA. DB.
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my pops has a sony that is the same size as my tv. it looks better, of course, than my vizio. but it doesn't look "costs twice as much for the same size tv" better.
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Visiting never used to get my cooling fan going.
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