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battra92
11/16/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
I think what Ballmer fails to realize is that people really do want what Apple is selling. I support approximately 100 PCs at my work. While I certainly appreciate a lot of what Microsoft offers (MS Office and Exchange being their two strongest points) there are times when I just wonder why their system is so darn bloated and complicated.

While I have to run and support Windows XP boxes at work at home I'm running Linux and OSX.

Another thing I've noticed is the general trend towards people wanting their computer to be more of an appliance. This unfortunately leaves Linux out for most applications (except for specialized uses like Netbooks) but the ease of use on a Mac is what many people are willing to pay that extra money for. Heck, there wouldn't be Hackintoshes out there if people didn't want to emulate the Mac.

Back in the mid 90s when I started learning my craft, Windows was hands down the best choice over Mac despite all the flaws of Win 95. Today the tides have changed and if price is equal for most home uses outside of gaming, OSX wins. #steveballmer
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discounteggroll
03/20/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
and it looks ike my wireless keyboard batteries are dying too
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discounteggroll
03/20/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
I bought my ma for it's boot chime (BIOS beep is so lame)
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Kaiser-Machead
03/20/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
I suppose ol' Ballmy has no opinion on premium hardware that actually pays for a license for their product.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/20/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
This from the company that's about to unleash a wallet raping multi-tiered pricing scheme for Windows 7...
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/20/09

@Jrsy Devil's Food Cake®: Don't get me wrong. I really like Windows 7 but let's be reasonable about it Uncle Fester..
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Auzburner
03/20/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
He has got come things right, but when you buy an Apple product, you don't have to buy directly from an Apple store and you also get top rated support included in that price tag. I wouldn't call Apple a rip off, but I fully agree a Mac is on the pricey side. You buy what you pay for, no deception, it's just what it is.
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UnexpectedEOF
03/20/09

@Auzburner: You get top rated support for a year.

Unless you buy applecare for another $200 - $400.
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Evan, How Dare you Sir!
03/20/09

Secondly, I paid $500 more not for the logo, but for kick ass product design featuring an operating system that isn't preloaded with bloatware from HP or Gateway.
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imTheKing
03/20/09

@UnexpectedEOF: the $200 to $400 is totally worth the fee.
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Mint137
03/20/09

@imTheKing: Building your own computer each thing has it's own warranty length. Just a few things for example. My monitor's was 3 years. RAM was lifetime. Hard drives were 5 years. All for no extra fee. BEAT THAT.
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madog
03/21/09

@Mint137: Ok, I'll accept that challenge.

Personally, I (and many others) think it's better being able to actually walk into the manufacturers store for warranty issues whereas you'll wait 4-6 weeks for shipping beyond the retailers return policy.
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BeautifulAgony
03/21/09

@evangelistc01: I built my computer for under $2k and it is kick-ass powerful and can run rings around virtually anything. I didn't get bloatware or useless frills, and since I know what I'm doing, I don't need a "care" program. If your hardware doesn't shit the bed within a week of startup and you don't treat it like shit, it's going to last a long, long time. In 25 years I've never had a hard drive, video card or motherboard just "die" on me unless something very harmful was actively done to it.

Assembling a system is both ridiculously easy and also very inexpensive. Once you do it you realize just what a ripoff buying a prebuilt system is, and how much of a useless waste "tech support" is...

@UnexpectedEOF: ...yes, Apple Care is a waste too.
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Hello Mister Walrus
03/20/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
"it is kinda funny for a software guy to suggest that it's the hardware that makes the computer."

Actually, Ballmer is a marketing guy, so he would say anything that he thinks that people want to hear.
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pettiblay
03/20/09

@Hello Mister Walrus: And Microsoft is a software company. So he's a marketing guy for a software company = software guy. They just don't do hardware.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/20/09

@Hello Mister Walrus: Correction, he's a marketing tool..
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/20/09

@pettiblay: "They just don't do hardware."

At Ballmer's age it's pretty much all software..
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theotherstevejobs
03/20/09

In reply to Ballmer Bites Apple, Saying Pro-Mac Trend Is Waning
seriously - did we just hear him say that the economy going into the shitter is good for Microsoft?

wow. Hope and change from Microsoft!
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/20/09

@theotherstevejobs: Yeah, I think there's about 5,000 people who'd disagree..
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HonusWScruggs
03/20/09

@theotherstevejobs: @evangelistc01: @Jrsy Devil's Food Cake®: In referring to "points", he's clearly talking about Microsoft's market position. What, exactly, is evil about being in a position where an economic downturn is to your relative advantage over your competitor?

Why so desperate to be angry?
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/21/09

@HonusWScruggs: "Why so desperate to be angry?"

I am neither. I simply made a statement. Any inference of malice you may apply to it is from your own viewpoint, not mine.
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