Visio is the only cheap TV brand I trust. After I bought mine, numerous friends of mine jumped on board. After viewing a few dozen vizios in operation through the past few years not only have my friends become loyal to the brand, I found that I have as well. I recently had a the pleasure of viewing a 42" 120 hz LCD made by Vizio and in comparison to my buddy's 46 inch Samsung LED, the friend with the Visio got a much better deal. Other than the obvious screen size difference and richer blacks, they had similar IQ.
@elementary: I dunno about that. Everyone I know who got a Pre when they first came out really, really regrets doing it, and everyone I know who has an iPhone (including myself) is so happy with it that they come off as shameless douches whenever they tell someone about it.
Lest we forget, the 8GB iPhone 3G is $99. And still a better phone than the Pre.
See, I kinda sound like a douche right now. I must be a totally satisfied iPhone customer!
I'm betting the only reason your friends regret it is the fact they don't have nearly as many apps. As for the iPhone, if you like getting gouged on monthly rates, I suppose anyone can be happy.
@Fractal the Meek: Sprint doesn't work in my condo, but seems to do fine elsewhere. Obviously that still makes it a no-go for me. Sucks, I'd be back with Sprint in a second otherwise.
AT&T on the other hand works fine in my condo, but elsewhere in the city, not so much.
As much as I hate Verizon, I've never been without coverage in the city.
How long do I need to wait until they pay me to take one out of their inventory? A couple weeks? Well, some company had to be the basement of the smart phone business, it is just sad that Palm had to take that role.
@ho0lee0h: Story of my life, friend. Not only am I misinformed, I take glee in spreading mis-information. In fact, this might be misinformation I am typing right now.
@weatherman: My guess is he was talking about the Pre, not the Pixi, ignoring its existence entirely. Kinda like how you treated the "special" class in high school when they joined you for lunch. I mean, I'm sure it's a wonderful phone, and it's not the Pixi's fault it was born without WiFi and is, if we're being candid, a little slow. Still...I mean, do you have to buy it? I'm sure the Pixi will be fine if you ignore it. I mean...it probably won't even understand that you're avoiding it.
Wal-Mart....guys. You're already having to hire crowd control and security because of your reputation for people being trampled on Black Friday. Maybe the term "door buster" is a little bad for your image.
Then again, you tried that by internally changing the name from Black Friday to "Blitz Day" (no joke). All it really did was put a less negative spin on the trampling. So maybe the solution is less rebranding and more not sucking. Cool? Cool.
@MrFresh: The. Heck. They must've changed it recently. And "Event Friday" is even more retarded.
And yes, I can blame Wal-Mart. People are idiots. People who shop at Wal-Mart need to be frugal. They chain up a hungry dog and dangle steak just out of reach. Do you not expect the dog to jump at the steak as soon as the leash is cut?
If you think Wal-Mart's just innocently offering limited deals and hey? How were they supposed to know folks wouldn't go nuts over an Xbox Elite for $150? Dude....no.
Yes, crazed morons who feel it's ok to beat the crap out of someone for a toy are idiots and morally reprehensible. But stores manage incredible sales all year 'round without people getting injured. Once a year, they want a beast of demand. And once a year, they get it.
@OCEntertainment: I still don't see how Walmart is morally responsible for its customers killing other people to get into the store. They are just offering sale items once a year. If I have a garage sale and sell my stuff for very low prices, I won't get blamed if two people kill each other trying to get to my house. Like me, Walmart is not responsible for dictating behavior of people in society.
@Hello Mister Walrus: I won't say they're entirely responsible. Like I said, the actual customers who do this crap are idiots. I mean, seriously? Beating someone else up so you can give a gift to your child? It's idiotic.
However, Wal-Mart is not innocent in this. They are very aware of the difference between lowering the price of an item an generating hype for said item. Like Apple, Wal-Mart is very good at putting on a show and getting people emotional over their product. It's not a direct influence, but they know what they're doing, and it is intentional.
Thing is, if one instance of injury happened at a Black Friday event and that was enough to convince Wal-Mart (or other stores) to tone it down or improve security I'd be less bothered. However, this is a long-standing tradition. When you first put on a sale and people go so crazy over your prices they start injuring each other, you can stand back and look shocked. How were you to know people were that crazy?
Do it a second time, though (and many more times after that), you're no longer just a bystander.
No Wal-Mart isn't directly responsible for their customers actions. But they are responsible for continuing their own actions after multiple years in a row of seeing the same side effects.
@Hello Mister Walrus: To perfectly honest, Mister Walrus, it's because after years of working at the store, my hope is all but lost. Perhaps I am being a bit unfair to Wal-Mart as a company because I don't like how the many managers I worked with treated their employees. And maybe there will finally be enough security and provisions this year to minimize the craziness. Maybe.
After working there, though, it seemed too often the corporate mentality was not "How can we do the best for everyone?" but "How much can we get away with?" If you can consistently work someone a 2-11 shift and then get them up bright and early the next day for a 7-4 shift without complaints, then do it. In my own very biased, unfair experience, that's how they think. So I'm less than convinced they'll do anything beyond the minimum necessary to keep good PR.
But if the headlining triumph at the end of this Black Friday is "No One Died!"...I don't consider that a victory. That's what I expect when going to a store.
Like I said, I'm being unfair to Wal-Mart. I know it. As Mr. Fresh pointed out, there are other stores that do this, too. And yes, it's largely the consumers fault. But the lack of standards for decency, the "whatever we can get away with" mentality bothers me for very personal reasons. For coworkers and friends that I've seen exploited time and again. Honestly, it's hard to walk away from that.
@Hello Mister Walrus: Where have you been? It's always the "big corporation's" fault. Never blame the person for his/her actions. I mean, it's not like they can control themselves...
@OCEntertainment: I agree that Wal*Mart should try to be careful about the safety of their patrons. I also think that not offering crazy deals on "event Friday" is retail suicide. Especially for the low price king of the universe.
That PS3 bundle is a pretty nice deal, if only I didn't already buy all three separately. What? I'm supposed to be shopping for OTHER people? Nonsense!
@negated: has star powah: Sprint has the cheaper plans so if you don't have another reason to go Verizon, Pixi or Hero (or Pre) might be a better question. #palmpixiprice
@Eulatos: I've been hearing good things about the usability of the Pre for the most part. I haven't used one myself so I can't say. What don't you like about it? #palmpixiprice
@FigNinja: My business partner has one cause he didnt want to pay the ETF on 4 accounts to leave sprint. Its OK but there is a good amount of lag if you have more than 1 card open, especially the messaging app. Alot of waiting for cards to populate with data etc. While he can technically multi task, i can open an app and close it and reopen another faster on my 3gs than he can switch to different cards that are actually doing something and wait for them to finish lagging out.
Also i personally do not like hardware keyboards on devices with accelerometers, the reason being is if you are looking at something in landscape mode on the pre you have to turn it back around to input data, with the opposite on the Droid, i like having control over what and how im seeing it and not having to fight it.
@FigNinja: I love it! Does need more software-hardware optimization but as far as usability goes, s' a breeze. the amount of applications you can run at any given time is more based on the resources of a particular app. Sadly, music+messaging+info heavy web pushes into not-so-sweet territory. Otherwise, I love the thing. Sadsadsad that it's not getting more support. #palmpixiprice
@Eulatos: The pre should really have an on screen keyboard, it's kind of ludicrous that it doesn't.. I keep hoping that they'll add one in a SW update.. . #palmpixiprice
@FigNinja: Aside from how much I like it, if you need a fone NOW and are going w/Sprint then Go with the Hero.Much more futureproof that way. #palmpixiprice
@Eulatos: Sorry, but your first comment regarding switching applications is a joke. The cards dont need to repopulate once they are open. It literally takes a second to switch applications. In fact, there is a gesture for it (swiping left to right, or right to left, on the bottom of the phone) that makes it even quicker. Unless you have a useless amount of cards open (8 or more) you shouldn't experience any lag with it. Even with youtube, sprint navigation, videos, and the messaging app, right here and right now, i can switch apps in less than a second.
@negated: has star powah: I'd say the Pre vs the Eris is a better question, since they're the same price for now. Basically, Pre if you want something classy, simple and powerful (or you want a keyboard) and Eris if you're of a slightly nerdier bent (more apps, more customization, etc) #palmpixiprice
@Eulatos: That "lag" greatly depends on the specific app - some check for updates or start a network session (wifi or EVDO) on start, some are bloated with too many add-on graphics, some have to open large databases. For most things, they are quite comparable in speed of UI response.
Homebrew apps/patches provide a virtual keyboard in either mode, and will likely make it to an new WebOS release. #palmpixiprice
@Nathan Obbards: No need. Just take my advice. When you go into the door, body check the old lady next to you into one of the end displays...
"Why the old lady?" you may ask. Let me explain. A teenager or young adult will take at least 3 or 4 hits to take down, and they will likely get up within a few seconds. The old woman on the other hand will likely only take one hit and stay down. Eliminating the weaker members of the herd will increase the likelihood that you will get the deal you were looking for, as well as cull the weak from the gene pool.
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$30(per month savings)*24(months)+$220(savings on phone)=$940.
In my mind there is nothing the iPhone can do that justifies an extra $1000 over the Pre.
Of course both Sprint's and AT&T's coverage suck in Chicago (especially AT&T's) so I'm on Verizon.
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Lest we forget, the 8GB iPhone 3G is $99. And still a better phone than the Pre.
See, I kinda sound like a douche right now. I must be a totally satisfied iPhone customer!
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I'm betting the only reason your friends regret it is the fact they don't have nearly as many apps. As for the iPhone, if you like getting gouged on monthly rates, I suppose anyone can be happy.
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AT&T on the other hand works fine in my condo, but elsewhere in the city, not so much.
As much as I hate Verizon, I've never been without coverage in the city.
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Then again, you tried that by internally changing the name from Black Friday to "Blitz Day" (no joke). All it really did was put a less negative spin on the trampling. So maybe the solution is less rebranding and more not sucking. Cool? Cool.
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But Can you really blame Wal-Mart? I would blame the actual crazy people who did the trampling.
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And yes, I can blame Wal-Mart. People are idiots. People who shop at Wal-Mart need to be frugal. They chain up a hungry dog and dangle steak just out of reach. Do you not expect the dog to jump at the steak as soon as the leash is cut?
If you think Wal-Mart's just innocently offering limited deals and hey? How were they supposed to know folks wouldn't go nuts over an Xbox Elite for $150? Dude....no.
Yes, crazed morons who feel it's ok to beat the crap out of someone for a toy are idiots and morally reprehensible. But stores manage incredible sales all year 'round without people getting injured. Once a year, they want a beast of demand. And once a year, they get it.
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However, Wal-Mart is not innocent in this. They are very aware of the difference between lowering the price of an item an generating hype for said item. Like Apple, Wal-Mart is very good at putting on a show and getting people emotional over their product. It's not a direct influence, but they know what they're doing, and it is intentional.
Thing is, if one instance of injury happened at a Black Friday event and that was enough to convince Wal-Mart (or other stores) to tone it down or improve security I'd be less bothered. However, this is a long-standing tradition. When you first put on a sale and people go so crazy over your prices they start injuring each other, you can stand back and look shocked. How were you to know people were that crazy?
Do it a second time, though (and many more times after that), you're no longer just a bystander.
No Wal-Mart isn't directly responsible for their customers actions. But they are responsible for continuing their own actions after multiple years in a row of seeing the same side effects.
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After working there, though, it seemed too often the corporate mentality was not "How can we do the best for everyone?" but "How much can we get away with?" If you can consistently work someone a 2-11 shift and then get them up bright and early the next day for a 7-4 shift without complaints, then do it. In my own very biased, unfair experience, that's how they think. So I'm less than convinced they'll do anything beyond the minimum necessary to keep good PR.
But if the headlining triumph at the end of this Black Friday is "No One Died!"...I don't consider that a victory. That's what I expect when going to a store.
Like I said, I'm being unfair to Wal-Mart. I know it. As Mr. Fresh pointed out, there are other stores that do this, too. And yes, it's largely the consumers fault. But the lack of standards for decency, the "whatever we can get away with" mentality bothers me for very personal reasons. For coworkers and friends that I've seen exploited time and again. Honestly, it's hard to walk away from that.
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For Giz readers, the Pre would be the obvious choice, but I think for non-gadget geeks out there, the Pixi is a no brainer just on price alone.
And you can never underestimate how cheap most people can be.
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Pixi or Eris?
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Pixi or Eris?
*POW* head explodes #palmpixiprice
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Also i personally do not like hardware keyboards on devices with accelerometers, the reason being is if you are looking at something in landscape mode on the pre you have to turn it back around to input data, with the opposite on the Droid, i like having control over what and how im seeing it and not having to fight it.
Just my opinion though. #palmpixiprice
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Homebrew apps/patches provide a virtual keyboard in either mode, and will likely make it to an new WebOS release. #palmpixiprice
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Let us not forget Jdimytai!
[consumerist.com] #blackfriday2009
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"Why the old lady?" you may ask. Let me explain. A teenager or young adult will take at least 3 or 4 hits to take down, and they will likely get up within a few seconds. The old woman on the other hand will likely only take one hit and stay down. Eliminating the weaker members of the herd will increase the likelihood that you will get the deal you were looking for, as well as cull the weak from the gene pool.