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    Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table

    Windows 7 Touch Pack Multitouch Apps Let You Fondle the Globe or Play Death Pong
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    07/11/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    I've been itching to upgrade my pc for awhile, and while I will probably do that pretty soon, it's clear I'm going to have to wait a bit to upgrade my monitor. I'm guessing mfrs are going to start offering some pretty nifty multitouch monitors very soon to take advantage of the touch features in W7, and even if it costs me an extra $200, I want that in my next Dell 24" LCD.
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    The HP TX2 Laptop is a better demo unit for Windows 7 Touchpack. The TX2 is a capacitive full multi-point finger touchscreen enabled machine.

    This video demonstrates that beautifully.
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    Image of Duckspwn Duckspwn
    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    "The age of touch is upon us." Ha, that's what I said when I made it to 2nd base the first time.
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    Image of TheWerewolf - Sotto voce TheWerewolf - Sotto voce
    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    While this is definitely cool on a large vertical screen - I remind people that this was originally for a Surface device where it's the entire desktop. In a similar way, this technology on a tablet PC - like the Dell Latitude XT and HP tx2z moves the screen into a more horizontal and natural position for this kind of stuff.

    Imagine this on a tablet PC lying flat on your desktop and you manipulating objects directly. It has a ton of potential.
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    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    Thanks for the note on the two-point only program functionality. I noted also that it didn't seem to properly sort out your fingers crossing the same vertical when you were looking at Antarctica.

    The Surface demo seemed to work all that out a lot more cleanly and also allow more than two fingers. I don't see any mention in the blog. What's up with the neuterization?
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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    07/10/09

    @Fractal the Meek: The Windows Touch platform is designed for all touchscreen PCs, and mapped to particular hardware via drivers. As I mentioned above, the drivers for multitouch on TouchSmart are beta (and not from HP), so there are a million reasons why it isn't perfect. This is really just a taste of what's to come, hence the lack of any "review" lingo.
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    07/10/09

    @Wilson Rothman: Just to expand on the two touch point limit...

    There are only WM_GESTUREs defined for up to two finger gestures (which is definitely the most common thing you'll see implemented), but applications implementing the WM_TOUCH message and call GetTouchInputInfo() can have as many touch points as the device can support.

    Your comment is entirely correct, but I just wanted to make it clear that it's not that difficult to handle unlimited multitouch with Win7's Touch Input. :)
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    Image of Fractal the Meek Fractal the Meek
    07/10/09

    @TheWerewolf - Causing headlines!: Ah, thanks both of you. Just wanted to be sure I'll be able to rub my fingers allllll over the final release.
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    07/10/09

    @Wilson Rothman: Oh, holy carp. I'm starred! My, things are moving fast around here these days.
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    Image of bloknayrb bloknayrb
    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    I so badly want a Windows 7 multitouch tablet that it hurts... And I cannot imagine any time in the forseeable future that I will be able to afford that.
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    07/10/09

    @bloknayrb: HP tx2z. Retails for $830 at US Best Buy right now - often on sale for as little as $650 at Staples and Office Depot. Enjoy! :)
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    I think I'd still prefer a regular monitor and a mouse. I don't see myself standing up or sitting next to a huge touchscreen all day and using my hands the whole time as shown. The concept of the Surface is a little better with the monitor face up functioning as a, well, surface.
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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    07/10/09

    @Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Oh, you can tip that sucker over for full "Surface" feel. What would stop you?
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    07/10/09

    @Purple Monkey Dishwasher: ...but what if the surface was at a 30° angle, and had the keyboard right there at the bottom of it.  Reply
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    07/10/09

    @Wilson Rothman: Yeah good point, great demo though by the way. I really like that they added a certain amount of momentum to objects as well.
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    07/10/09

    @Purple Monkey Dishwasher: I kind of agree that the keyboard and mouse seems to be the best interface. You can never have enough ways to interface with a computer however. Its nice to know the support is there and robust if you ever want to but a touch enabled monitor.
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    07/10/09

    @Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Why does it have to be one or the other? Why not a mouse, a keyboard, a touchscreen, a pen... ? :)
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    Finally...a reason to buy a PC!
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    I find it ironic, that people (many), accuse OS X of being all about eye candy, well at least they do the eye candy well. This seems actually ALL about eye candy, and it falls on it's face. What a failed use of the tech, IMHO. Okay games are cool, but wow, this is lame.
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    Image of RainyDayInterns RainyDayInterns
    07/10/09

    @beekerstudios: hmmm... I think some guy at IBM said pretty much the same thing about PCs... "hey, nice idea...but that's pretty lame that you can't handle the national census like our mainframe here"...
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    Image of Sticks Calhoun Sticks Calhoun
    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    It doesn't look particularly practical, but it does look like a hell of a lot of fun! For those of you wondering, I'm pretty sure the TouchSmart's screen uses infrared light around the borders to figure out where fingers are.
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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    07/10/09

    @Sticks Calhoun: Yep, I mentioned that in the video. Hence the reference to "optical" touch interface.
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    07/10/09

    @Wilson Rothman: Your fancy video makes my slooooooooooooow internet ANGRY!
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    07/10/09

    @Wilson Rothman:Hey Wilson, why wont the NFL give Indiana a football team?
    Because Illinois and Wisconsin would want one too ;)
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    I can see how all these touch things are very entertaining (hell, I could probably spend a day just going "ooooh, look at this! And this! Weeeeeeee...!") but when it comes to using it "out in the wild"... I'm a bit more doubtful.

    Where would this be useful apart from "showing off"?
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Windows 7 Touch Pack: Surface Interface Without the Big-Ass Table
    OMG. I want it. Forget my mac...I want THAT.
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