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    Xbox 360 Wireless N Adapter Resurfaces for a Little Less

    Atheros Wireless N for Smartphones Actually Uses Less Power Than Slowass G

    Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch

    802.11n Final Spec Is Final, Finally

    Did You Know 802.11n Isn't a Final Spec?

    Mvix Nubbin Is the World's Smallest Wireless-N Adapter...And It's Cheap

    Trendnet's Wireless N Router Fits in Your Pocket

    Planex GW-USMicronN: A Teeny, Tiny Wireless-N Adapter

    D-Link DIR-825 Dual-Band N Router Gets USB over Wi-Fi (and So Can You)

    Netgear Polishes Wireless-N with WNR2000 and DGN2000 Routers

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    Image of Xeno Xeno
    11/06/09

    In reply to Xbox 360 Wireless N Adapter Resurfaces for a Little Less
    N is great but no one should buy this. I bought the Netgear wnhde111 wireless N bridge kit for $85 on ebay. This gives 2 devices that can be used as access points routers or bridges and a spare port for my PS3. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    11/06/09

    @Xeno: To the properly informed tech geek that's a hell of a deal. Your average 12 year old parent wouldn't know what the hell to do with the kit though. Thus the overpriced N adapter is born. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    11/06/09

    @tok3ninja: The thing is that with the netgear kit you just flip a switch to auto on both units and plug them in and it works. They are really simple, I only customized the setup cus' I'm a geek. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Xbox 360 Wireless N Adapter Resurfaces for a Little Less
    Another sad example of Microsoft copying from Apple - this time, stealing the "why build it in when we can charge separately for the parts" strategy. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    Image of FriarNurgle FriarNurgle
    11/06/09

    In reply to Xbox 360 Wireless N Adapter Resurfaces for a Little Less
    Booo, M$ should just build it into the Xbox 360 considering the ridiculous profits from Live. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!! promoted this comment FriarNurgle was starred FriarNurgle was unstarred
    Image of aniteshj aniteshj
    11/06/09

    @FriarNurgle: They could build it in, but they know wireless is a gimmick for consoles, it just doesn't work out in the end. too slow for HD streaming and will cause shitty lag for everyone.

    Wired or die. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    11/06/09

    @FriarNurgle: If Microsoft had a build in wireless adapter, they could not have the possibility to release a faster adapter (like they have now).
    Now we can use N networks wile other consoles are still stuck with G. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    11/06/09

    @FriarNurgle: If they included wireless G or N into the Xbox then the price would probably increase. And considering wireless online gaming is a horrible idea I am glad people are some-what forced to use wires, eliminating unnecessary lag and etc. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    Image of Xeno Xeno
    11/06/09

    @aniteshj: N is plenty fast for streaming HD video. I do it every day on my 360. I don't use this overpriced adapter but 802.11N is plenty fast. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    11/06/09

    @SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!: @aniteshj: I like you guys...true gamers! Wired4Life #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    11/06/09

    @mricyfire: I feel like we are really bounding here.
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    Edited by SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!! at 11/06/09 1:42 PM SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!! was starred SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!! was unstarred
    Image of chareverie chareverie
    11/06/09

    In reply to Xbox 360 Wireless N Adapter Resurfaces for a Little Less
    Still, despite the price drop, what a total waste of money. Gaming online via WiFi is never really the most reliable compared to a wired connection, and a wired connection is just half as much as that adapter (or less) if you get an ethernet network spindle at places like Home Depot. _ #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!! promoted this comment chareverie was starred chareverie was unstarred
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    11/06/09

    @chareverie: I consider wireless a good option where Ethernet cables can't reach.

    Ethernet FTW. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    Image of Nitesh Singh Nitesh Singh
    11/06/09

    In reply to Xbox 360 Wireless N Adapter Resurfaces for a Little Less
    Hmm, I wonder what the old one's price will be dropped to then. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    Image of Mark Wilson Mark Wilson
    11/06/09

    @Nitesh Singh: I'm guessing it will be discontinued. #xbox360wirelessnnetworkingadapter
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    Image of opanitch opanitch
    11/02/09

    In reply to Atheros Wireless N for Smartphones Actually Uses Less Power Than Slowass G
    Doesnt the iPhone or new iTouch have a wireless N chip that isnt activated? #cellphones
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/02/09

    @opanitch: That is correct, at least I believe it is for the iPod touch. #cellphones
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    11/02/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: So what does it all mean basil? Will we be seeing new chips entering the iTouch and iPhone or will they just keep it the same and activate them when the time comes? #cellphones
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    11/02/09

    @opanitch: It's possible that the broadcom chip in the iPods will not be activated with N, and that its inclusion was a matter of cost than capability. If they DO decide to activate it for whatever reason, no doubt it will involve a charge to do so. #cellphones
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    Image of MrBlahBlah MrBlahBlah
    10/05/09

    In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
    for $140, you might as well throw in a few extra bones for airport extreme. I refuse to pay over $100 for any router, even if that means sticking with my Tomato-based WRT 54GL
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    10/05/09

    @MrBlahBlah: blah blah airport blah blah

    At least we got that out of the way...
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    Image of EdaFonzie EdaFonzie
    10/05/09

    In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
    @MaDog That's completely irrelevant, N is backwards compatible with B and G, that was always present in every pre-N spec and definitely in the finalized spec.

    Having an N router means you get to use all bands but can enjoy the latest spec if you have supported devices.
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    badhatharry promoted this comment EdaFonzie was starred EdaFonzie was unstarred
    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    10/05/09

    @EdaFonzie: Yeah, B and G stuff will work with N, but what madog is saying is that the B and G items will drag your speed down to those levels. Your N devices will be wasted.
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    Image of yuki333 yuki333
    10/05/09

    @badhatharry: Not exactly, I run an N router in my house and I'm the only one with an N compatible card so It's set to send out B, G, and N frequencies , but while they're connection is 54Mbps mine is usually around 144Mpbs. Yes it is diminished somewhat by broadcasting both, but I still have greater speeds, not to mention that it runs on the 5.0Ghz spectrum so suffers much less interference from some phones and microwaves.
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    Image of madog madog
    10/05/09

    @EdaFonzie: As (that's some) badhatharry said, it's not completely useless and is backwords compatible with previous mainstream wireless specs. It's just that I'm sure there are many other people in a similar position as myself that have a cell phone, game console, and old computer using the G spec, and a newer computer using N spec.

    When anything other than N is connected to an N router, it physically slows down the entire wireless network to become backwords compatible making the N device not access at it's potential. Whether it actually matters or ones Internet connection is fast enough to utilize it is a different story, but it's why dual band routers exist if I wasn't clear on that before.
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    10/05/09

    @madog: Yeah, since the tech specs on the site don't tout this as being dual-band I'm presuming it isn't. I've got the older WNDR3000 which is dual-band, but not gig-LAN. and DD-WRT works fantastic on it, if this one was dual band I would consider upgrading...

    When working with a dual band router, you simply set one radio to be N only, and the other to be G/B or compatibility mode (depending on your software), DD-WRT sets them up as completely seperate APs with diff SSIDs and everything, you can even setup virtual APs based on one radio or the other with additional SSIDs for different auth protocols/DHCP servers/subnets/etc...

    it is amazingly versatile.
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    10/05/09

    @yuki333: Yeah, but edafonzie wasn't talking about dual band, just the fact that G and B will work with N.
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    Image of madog madog
    10/05/09

    In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
    At this point I find N routers to be useless for many people. Anyone with multiple computers or other devices that use wifi but most likely still have B or G cards in them, like an iPhone or a Wii (or just about every phone and game system capable of wifi), wouldn't benefit to the fullest of the N spec. The fact that an N router will slow down the network if anything less than an N device is connected to it defeats the purpose in many scenarios (at least to my understanding).

    If anyone is thinking about getting an N enabled router I would suggest getting a dual band router that can support both specs (G and N) individually and at their fullest speeds. At least until everything is N in the next couple years (when the next spec is being released), or unless you know all of your devices use it, or at the very least the B/G devices you own are not active at the same time as the others (and then when the speed is necessary).
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    Image of Xeno Xeno
    10/05/09

    In reply to Netgear RangeMax WNR3500L Wireless-N Router Packs USB, Linux Punch
    This is kinda tasty. I think I want to setup a N network in my new house for gaming and streaming WMC. I don't know if I want to wait that long though. Anyone have a N router that they really like?
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    Image of sirsycho sirsycho
    10/05/09

    @Xeno: I really like the new Airport Extremes. I've had several N routers starting with the craptastic Linksys WRVS4400N (RMA'd a dozen times). I've also used the WRT600N and the Dlink DGL4500. They all had problems with dropping connections or just failing entirely after a couple of weeks or months. The Apple is by far the most consistent and reliable I've tried thus far... Simultaneous dual-band FTW!
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    10/05/09

    @sirsycho: That's a possibility. I have had issues with that stupid application you have to run for configuring them in the past though. Why can't they be configured on a web page?
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    10/05/09

    @Xeno: Netgear WNDR3000, near-current DD-WRT, rock solid, encrypted PPTP VPN, DynDNS, advanced routing is a snap, dual-band N|b/g, wake on lan deamon, QoS, fully functional (and correctly supported) uPnP.

    Only drawback is no gig-LAN, and a giant blue LED array bubble that (unless they recently fixed it) you can't turn off when using DD-WRT...

    Can't buy them retail anymore, but can prob find new ones on ebay hella cheap.
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    09/13/09

    In reply to 802.11n Final Spec Is Final, Finally
    Sweet, I mean it's not like it took them 7 years or anything...
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    Image of Seiven Seiven
    09/12/09

    In reply to 802.11n Final Spec Is Final, Finally
    WOOHOO, I think I will celebrate the ratification of wireless N with a beer.
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    09/11/09

    In reply to 802.11n Final Spec Is Final, Finally
    im surprised, i wonder how close it is to the pre-n, or is it exactly the same?
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    Image of TerryinSt.Paul TerryinSt.Paul
    09/11/09

    In reply to 802.11n Final Spec Is Final, Finally
    FTA:I’m am very pleased to announce that both P802.11w and P802.11n were approved today.

    W? What are the speeds of w?
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    Image of RicketyCricket RicketyCricket
    09/11/09

    @TerryinSt.Paul: "W? What are the speeds of w?"

    Ludicrous speed?
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    09/11/09

    @TerryinSt.Paul: 802.11w is just a security improvement.

    [en.wikipedia.org]
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    09/11/09

    @TerryinSt.Paul: Willy willy fast
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    09/12/09

    @RicketyCricket: I don't know about you, but I'd be pissed if all of my web pages turned plaid because of the insane speeds.
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    09/14/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: I see what you did there. Nice.
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    07/21/09

    In reply to Did You Know 802.11n Isn't a Final Spec?
    isn't 'n' just the current revision of the spec? seems intuitive enough to me.
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