7.2Mbps on AT&T's 3G network is like driving a Ferrari with someone yanking your parking brake every 90 seconds.
Until I can consistently stream a simple radio app on my iPhone 3GS during a leisurely 15-minute walk from the World Trade Center PATH Station down to Water Street, Seth the Blogger Guy can suck it, and suck it hard. #usbconnectlightning
Meh, T-Mobile's network is already moving to an impressive 21Mbps, Verizon is launching it's 4G network in 20-30 major markets next year, and Sprint already has 4G in several cities and expanding every month.
I use an N dedicated wireless bridge (shares with a couple of other devices) and find that an HD television show transfers slightly faster than play speed. What is the usual performance with the G adapter? #wifi
@Canoehead: i use a wireless G bridge shared with other devices and i don't have any trouble streaming The Office in HD. admittedly the other devices are not usually active, but the wireless network is running mixed mode and has some active N devices on it too. was thinking about upgrading the N-bridge, but i'd still need a legacy base station for Wii and PS3 :-p #wifi
@Accelerata: I put in the bridge to feed the Tivo, Popcorn Hour and Wii in the bedroom. It works pretty well, and was a lot cheaper than a proper cable run. #wifi
@ripfire: What I'm talkin' 'bout is turning your phone into a Wifi AP that allows any other wifi device net access w/out 'tethering' or any add'l (bs) fees given to the carrier. Turns your phone into a 'dumb' internet pipe, bscly. And on my particular phone, ICS does not work right off the bat. #verizon
Tethering doesnt make much sense because no ones network can really handle it. A high price means they are waiting to improve the backend before really trying to offer it to everyone. However, I'm not expecting to see that until well into 2010 when Verizon has 4G up and running. #verizon
I really wonder how the amount they make on these fees compares to the number of customers they lose or that never join them due their reputation for nickel and diming customers to death. #verizon
@ibelli: Yep. I bet you're not alone. How many people out there decide smartphones aren't for them because they charge so much for data and then tethering? They could likely be getting more people into costlier plans with higher margins if they took that into account.
They're probably thinking of the business users when they set that price. Makes sense being that they come from the Blackberry world. If you are on the road for work a lot, it's worth $30. They need to get that smartphones are in the consumer market now. I'm sure part of the reasoning behind keeping the cost high is also that they don't want you using this to replace your home internet, loading their network, and possibly becoming ex-Verizon Internet customers. I get that. How about allowing a middle ground? How about allowing everyone with an unlimited data plan a certain number of tethering days a month or a year? I don't tether often but occasionally I'm out or on vacation and want to. I've probably used the tethering on my phone 10 times in the last year. I still want the ability to do that in a pinch but I absolutely will not pay the same amount again as I pay for their "unlimited" data.
Of course, I'm betting we'll be able to just root this phone and get around it but it's still bad business. #verizon
@ibelli: Yea honestly, the ONLY reason I don't own a smartphone right now is due to the ridiculous fees.
If they made it an UNLIMITED unlimited plan (from what I hear all those plans still have caps) I'd think about it, but still, I am a firm believer that there should be no additional cost for tethering.
Data is data. My phone receives it. Anything beyond my phone is my business. (Like a modem--you pay the fee to use the modem--how the signal is used PAST that router is MY business. It's like charging extra money to use a second PC on your home network, connceted to the internet. 100% bullshit, if you ask me) #verizon
The sad part for us Canadians is that $30 a month for 5GB is considered a really good deal, being close to the $30/6GB plan that Rogers/Fido has offered for limited periods in the past.
Or I guess we can pay the usual $25 for 500MB. Awesome.
@FigNinja: I suspect that the high price is to discourage too many people from jumping on and, like AT&T and the iPhone, bringing the network to its knees.
And why would one ever need to "root" an open-source, Linux-based phone that let's you do everything? (grin) #verizon
@mj001: That $30 gets you 6GB for on phone data + tethering. No extra fee... At least for now. Who knows what the future holds. Right now I can tether all I want though. #verizon
@Gundem: $45 a month is not unreasonable for internet. VZW charges you the $30/month assuming smart phone usage, but computer usage uses more data. Unlimited is unlimited, but they can choose to charge you for what they assume you will use. #motoroladroid
Honestly, I find the fee for tethering to be 100% bs.
It's like saying "Here are some eggs. That will be $30. Now feel free to make an omelette. Oh, you want to eat them SCRAMBLED? Sorry, that's another $15."
My data, I choose how to use it, in my opinion. I hope some workaround is found before I pick this phone up...
I understand the internet fee, since you're using their infrastructure. That's perfectly fair. So cap me at 5GB (I think that's the standard "unlimited" cap, right? despite the bs name "unlimited") and allow me to use my 5GB any way I damn well please. 5GB to my PC is no different than 5GB to my phone--data is data. I might use more of my 5GB on my PC, but it's MY 5GB. I paid for it.
Or... you could root your phone(assuming it's possible with the droid) and do it for free. I use wifi tether for root users on my G1 regularly and it does quite nicely. #motoroladroid
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Until I can consistently stream a simple radio app on my iPhone 3GS during a leisurely 15-minute walk from the World Trade Center PATH Station down to Water Street, Seth the Blogger Guy can suck it, and suck it hard. #usbconnectlightning
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I live closer to 21mbps HSPA+ across the border than a 'native' AT&T 3G signal. Hell, I even pick up their HSPA network from where I'm sitting.
Their name... is 302-880, otherwise known as the Bell/Telus HSPA+ network.
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It just seems like AT&T is behind the times. #usbconnectlightning
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Hmm. Then again, in this context, we are talking about cell phones. #verizon
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They're probably thinking of the business users when they set that price. Makes sense being that they come from the Blackberry world. If you are on the road for work a lot, it's worth $30. They need to get that smartphones are in the consumer market now. I'm sure part of the reasoning behind keeping the cost high is also that they don't want you using this to replace your home internet, loading their network, and possibly becoming ex-Verizon Internet customers. I get that. How about allowing a middle ground? How about allowing everyone with an unlimited data plan a certain number of tethering days a month or a year? I don't tether often but occasionally I'm out or on vacation and want to. I've probably used the tethering on my phone 10 times in the last year. I still want the ability to do that in a pinch but I absolutely will not pay the same amount again as I pay for their "unlimited" data.
Of course, I'm betting we'll be able to just root this phone and get around it but it's still bad business. #verizon
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If they made it an UNLIMITED unlimited plan (from what I hear all those plans still have caps) I'd think about it, but still, I am a firm believer that there should be no additional cost for tethering.
Data is data. My phone receives it. Anything beyond my phone is my business. (Like a modem--you pay the fee to use the modem--how the signal is used PAST that router is MY business. It's like charging extra money to use a second PC on your home network, connceted to the internet. 100% bullshit, if you ask me) #verizon
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Or I guess we can pay the usual $25 for 500MB. Awesome.
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And why would one ever need to "root" an open-source, Linux-based phone that let's you do everything? (grin) #verizon
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SO WHY? #motoroladroid
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Problem is that's only windows mobile and windows mobile is shit. I had Fuse untill 2 weeks ago and i'm so glad i switched to BB. #motoroladroid
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It's like saying "Here are some eggs. That will be $30. Now feel free to make an omelette. Oh, you want to eat them SCRAMBLED? Sorry, that's another $15."
My data, I choose how to use it, in my opinion. I hope some workaround is found before I pick this phone up...
I understand the internet fee, since you're using their infrastructure. That's perfectly fair. So cap me at 5GB (I think that's the standard "unlimited" cap, right? despite the bs name "unlimited") and allow me to use my 5GB any way I damn well please. 5GB to my PC is no different than 5GB to my phone--data is data. I might use more of my 5GB on my PC, but it's MY 5GB. I paid for it.
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