As far as construction of the bag goes, I had the same model, and while it may be rated for 50 more years, I think that may just be shelf life, since 2 years of high school destroyed mine.
Admittedly, I was hard on it; I carried at least 50 pounds of books and stuff in it at all times.
Haha, I love how anybody can stick "ww2 german" on something and sell it for a few extra bucks. There were NO such backpacks used by the german military in ww2 that looked anything like those. You may want to point that out in the article. I have been an WW2 equipment collector for over 5 years and this is in no way, shape or form a nazi backpack.
I think what this backpack is trying to recreate is that of the german infantry breadbag, and even then, that is FAR off from this copy. Here is a link to said breadbag.
Uhm, so they were made for use by the german military circa WW2? What's wrong with re-using an implement designed to aid in war for purposes decidedly NOT warlike?
Seriously, it's a bag. It isn't like there is a fucking Swastika on the thing and Heil Hitler on the side of it.
As for the crap below about talking to somebody who lived through it. We all have to get over shit sometime. 60 years later is probably good enough considering German, Japan, and Italy have been allies for oh... 60 years now.
Or did you forget that we not only bombed the shit out of them, but we then loaned all the money necessary to rebuild the above countries and pretty much the rest of Western Europe as well.
It looks like these bags have held up well over time. I think probably the only one that holds up even better are the old-style mail bags the Post Office used to issue.
@Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Look Lite, without bags the Germans could never have placed their jackbooted foots across the throat of Europe... imagine Blitzkrieg while trying to hold all you things in your hands... LUSTKRIEG! NEWS EXTRA! GERMANS UNABLE TO BREAK OUT OF BERLIN AS WAR STARTS LATER THAN PLANNED. Which country is the throat of Europe again?
WTF, people. It's a backpack. Have any of you haters ever ridden in a Volkswagen? Did it turn you into a Nazi? No, so STFU and get back to work creating the superior race.
@J_Frank_Parnell: talk to somebody who lived through it and maybe you wouldn't be cracking jokes. personally, i think giz ought to remove this article. it's not cool. it sucks. it pisses me off.
@craighyatt: Seriously it was 60 years ago. Get a grip.
Its one thing to never forget the evils that happen, its a total different story to actually put the stigma of a group of people on EVERYTHING made or that got its design from those people.
I mean really, I dont see anyone flipping as big of a bitch about WWI, and a metric shit-ton more people died in that war through both all out slaughter, systematic genocide of populations, AND the Flu that ravaged the world after, than in all of WWII.
@Jim Topoleski: +1 - if you're that anti-Nazi, sell your BMW (they made Fokker engines!), vow never to fly on a plane with a jet-engine (Nazis made those!), boycott the space program, modern medicine, etc. etc. For shame, you Nazi sympathizers!
@Jim Topoleski: "Its one thing to never forget the evils that happen, its a total different story to actually put the stigma of a group of people" ... and it's still another thing to commercialize those evils, engender hate, and dishonor the memories of the victims just because you can. do me a favor. next time you are in europe, visit a nazi death camp. walk around. soak up the atmosphere. i did and i literally vomited. i stand by my opinion that a backpack just ain't worth it.
@craighyatt: maybe if you picked up a history book and read about it you would be less pissed off....your idea of germans, nazis and the holocaust is shaped by steven speilberg not history...
@craighyatt: soooo anything that was designed during the nazi era by hard working germans who had nothing to do with the killing of jews is off limits, bad and makes you sick is that right? sounds like the type of xenophobia and propaganda the SS used against the jews...your a moron buddy face it
@TonyWonder: And you have just made my case for me. The reason Giz should take down this article is that it stirs up anger and hate. And it brings folks like you out of the woodwork and gives them a platform.
@craighyatt: hahaha i guess your eye sight is as good as your logic....you have what? 3 bullshit rants before I ever stepped into the mix. So no sir YOU prove my point. You are a hypocrite. You demonize the history of Germans for the evils of a select few, just like the Nazis did to Jews. You come on here and talk about how my opinion should not have a platform after you had 3 opportunities to express yours.
@craighyatt: I've been there. Auschwitz, last year. I went "ooo... aaa... so sad. wow that's horrible" and then I moved on. It was 60+ years ago, and I can do nothing to change it. I'm not going to cry (or vomit) over something I didn't cause, and can't change.
@Hi, I'm God: i understand what you are saying. i am a rational, logical engineer and my reaction at that death camp made no sense to me. but that's how i felt at the time, and the feeling will never leave me.
@craighyatt: Both grandfathers of mine fought in WWII (one on each front, one was a POW in Korea for two years during WWII). They seem to think they're allowed to make jokes about it at this point. You're welcome to take it up with them if you like.
@Skyman747: I'd buy it if it were affordable and just as durable as this one (I supposed I'd need availability as well). I love the concept. Also love the carnage whenever the "n" word is mentioned in a thread.
@DigitalPasture: or like saying "I can't possibly support America because America nuked the Japanese".
Seriously, if you think this way about a backpack, and you live in America, you had better move on to some other country or be forever labeled a hypocrite.
@craighyatt: I do know people who lived through it, thank you. And I had an uncle who risked his life to fight the evil of Nazism. He was there at D-Day, and survived the landing on Omaha Beach, where allied forces were hit hardest. He had nightmares about it until the day he died at the age of 81. I've heard firsthand accounts of the shit Nazis did. Don't be condescending to me, OK?
I'm not sure why you're so offended by someone re-purposing and selling old German military backpacks, but hey, it's your right to be offended. If you have family or friends that suffered under the Nazis, then you have my sympathies.
As I see it neither the Nazi party nor the ideology they espoused will benefit one iota from this company selling used backpacks, so take a deep breath and try not to lose too much sleep over it. There are still real problems in the world that need our attention.
@craighyatt: Yes, because obviously any time a topic stirs up feelings, which as far as I can tell are pretty much only yours being butthurt here, we should immediately avoid talking about it, wipe the conversation out as if it never happened, and go on with our little animatronic lives right?
Dude, grow the fuck up. We're a country based on the ideal that two people have the right to disagree. Not only do they have that right, but the right to openly express their disagreement. Which fortunately, if distastefully, includes people having the right to walk down the fucking street in full Nazi/Spongebob/KKK regalia while playing the goddamn theme from the A-Team on the kazoo.
So either have a useful discussion or go the fuck home you whiny pusillanimous poster.
@craighyatt: Is American frontier and Civil war era gear off limits too ? The US has tried to perpatrate some pogroms over here and a little genocide as well, but I don't see the boys in blue, gray, or doe skin villified in the same way for doing basically the same thing to some of my ancestors as the Nazis did to the Jews...
And let's just bring this back a little bit to the topic at hand. I am right at this moment wearing army boots and BDU type cargo pants. Why ? Because I'm a war monger ? Because I specifically wish to extoll the millitary and everything it stands for. No...because millitarys frequently get good gear. Practical, durable, well made. It isn't a surprise that these German bags are still around, the Nazis had some pretty amazing engineers and designers who produced awesome gear and tech. This is a TECH website. From the picture it appears that they already removed any swastikas that might have been on this thing (and handily replaced it with a solar panel...more gadgetry) so I hardly think removing the article as well is warranted...
@craighyatt: your comments are ridiculous. no one is discounting or pardoning what the german army did in WW2. but your argument is misinformed. if that is the case, why are french goods still being sold? Louis Vuitton started making bags for napolean and he wasn't the nicest guy in the world, those bags sell for thousands of dollars till this day. The British Monarchy has performed countless numbers of horrors to both Ireland and India, not to mention our very own USA, things with their crest are still being sold for countless dollars and pounds. Japanese Samurai swords fetch pretty pennies, last time i checked they ravaged small villages in territory battles.
you are truly uneducated. you went to auschwitz and got that funny feeling inside. good for you. but your lack of hiistorical knowledge is downright embarassing. Concentration Camps are just on the things the nazis did. they also did countless number of good things too.
let's not forget our USA slaughtered millions of native americans. still hate them?
just leave before someone really tears you a good one...oh wait...
@TonyWonder: Assuming this is as the article states: This is a German WWII army bag. That would make it a Nazi bag, right? It's not a generic German bag made during the time of WWII. Also, with Dangerwillrobinson 's additional info: that this is probably not a real nazi backpack, but one made for marketing to capitalize on 'german efficiency and technological breakthroughs during WWII' that makes this just a *bit*...odd, wouldn't you say?
Are you defending the idea that the Germans made good things during WWII? That the Nazis made good things during WWII? Or a potentially fake bag that is marked as Nazi to capitalize on how great they made things?
@J_Frank_Parnell: "Don't be condescending to me, OK?" And what? You think telling people to STFU isn't condescending? I called you on cracking jokes about something I don't find funny. I'll tell you something else. I expect there are others reading this forum who feel the same way, but don't want to endure the ridicule they get for speaking up and looking uncool. Personally, I don't give a crap about that. I know how I feel about the matter, and I expressed myself honestly and with respect. I stand by everything I said: I don't like this article, it pisses me off, and I wish Giz would take it down.
@craighyatt: I, for one, am glad that you have your opinion. I'm also glad that Giz has its/their own. I'm also wondering how you can possibly support America and/or Americans knowing the pain we inflicted on tens of thousands (and, realistically, millions) of Japanese on August 6th and 9th in 1945.
@Sean Masters: I understand your point. I'm ashamed of lots of things our country did in the past (and still does to day). No country or society is perfect. My wife is vietnamese and she did a stint working for the VA. Some of the vets were actually afraid to have her work on their teeth when they heard her accent. These kinds of feelings live a long, long time. I do think that we can find ways to acknowledge mistakes, bring them out into the light and try to understand them, but we can do that without trivializing them. I truly understand these are just "recycled goods". I understand the deep feelings of abhorrence seem irrational. I know it's hippocritical for me as an american to feel as I do about nazi germany. I know it's not cool, and that I come off like some old dude who's out of touch. All I can do is express how I feel, with respect, to others on this forum. I think it's healthy and natural that others disagree with me, and I don't take it personally.
@vdiddy210: you're wasting your time with someone like craigyatt. He isn't rational. brining up examples like Napoleon will be ignored because the only genocide, war crime that matters is the holocaust. As far as they're concerned thats all that matters. They frame everything around the Holocaust. Its the greatest thing that ever happened to the Jews. They got a country out of it, war planes, nukes out of it, and the ability to label you as anti-semetic whenever you question them.
@Phokal: I'm reframing the article away from this bullshit anti-semetic garbage that people like to throw around. When people say Nazi, they mean evil baby killers, not political party. So I'm calling this a WWII German designed bag. Yes its Nazi because of the era, but its not a Nazi bag in the sense that it held the skulls of baby jews. People need to do some solid research and realize that the Nazis were a celebrated political party, envied by the USA and Britain at the time. But today, Nazi just means evil. So anything that occurred in Germany during WWII under the Nazi party is evil. Which is incorrect. Holocaust was evil. Everything German during WWII (Nazi) wasn't.
@craighyatt: Because censoring something that ACTUALLY HAPPENED, is the proper way to go about things.
Cant whitewash history dude. The Nazi party killed a lot of people, Jews/Blacks/Poles/Roma died in camps, and the US sympathized more to the Germans than the Japanese.
@craighyatt: Regular german army (Wehrmacht) weren't all Nazis. Nor where all quartermasters, engineers, etc. It's an army backpack. Every army has one. Backpacks don't engender hate.
You realize that by isolating the technological and cloth-working attributes from the deplorable idealistic crusade of the Nazis, you've hereby invited upon yourself the rage of the internet. You shall, from here on out, be labeled a racist, a fascist, a communist AND a socialist at the SAME TIME. You now hate President Obama because he is black and Jon Stewart because he's jewish. You hate babies and children and women and cute little kittens, and are currently the source of all evil.
In short, sir, how dare you make a reasonable and accurate assessment of a piece of backpack gadgetry that is devoid of any morality or ideals by itself? IT TOUCHED NAZIS!!!!1one
@OCEntertainment: I don't hear anyone bashing Volkswagon. I know that was tongue in cheek, but I don't see it being any different. The Internets is stoopid and shouldn't be relied upon. The fact remains that the Germans make shit very well. Crafty devils you might say.
Also, if you even like Obama these days you are a fascist and a communist and a whole bunch of other big words people throw around that they don't really understand...... It's totally antidisestablishmentarianism.
Could say the same for a lot of vintage stuff from WW2. I have a Belgian great coat from that era... it looks great, and can take any cold North Carolina can throw at it without blinking.
Not to mention those Germans had cool uniforms, that are forever ruined because they were worn by Nazis.
In all seriousness, though, I was being serious. Before I grew out of it (read: got too fat) I had a blue-gray Swiss military jacket for cold days. It was pretty snazzy looking, but I kept getting people asking me about it because it looked similar to the German design, which was starting to get annoying.
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@lemoose: Actaully the Wehrmacht was an army, the SS were paramilitary, and selected for their adherence to Nazi idealogy. So while not all Wehrmacht soldiers were Nazi, and not all Nazis were SS or Wehrmacht, all SS were in fact Nazis.
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Then again, same goes for the backpacks on sale at Wal-Mart.
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Admittedly, I was hard on it; I carried at least 50 pounds of books and stuff in it at all times.
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I think what this backpack is trying to recreate is that of the german infantry breadbag, and even then, that is FAR off from this copy. Here is a link to said breadbag.
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They should be ashamed for sticking such a label on those. Not just for false advertising, but for the sake of using Nazism as a marketing tool.
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Seriously, it's a bag. It isn't like there is a fucking Swastika on the thing and Heil Hitler on the side of it.
As for the crap below about talking to somebody who lived through it. We all have to get over shit sometime. 60 years later is probably good enough considering German, Japan, and Italy have been allies for oh... 60 years now.
Or did you forget that we not only bombed the shit out of them, but we then loaned all the money necessary to rebuild the above countries and pretty much the rest of Western Europe as well.
It looks like these bags have held up well over time. I think probably the only one that holds up even better are the old-style mail bags the Post Office used to issue.
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Its one thing to never forget the evils that happen, its a total different story to actually put the stigma of a group of people on EVERYTHING made or that got its design from those people.
I mean really, I dont see anyone flipping as big of a bitch about WWI, and a metric shit-ton more people died in that war through both all out slaughter, systematic genocide of populations, AND the Flu that ravaged the world after, than in all of WWII.
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It's a fucking backpack. If the article didn't mention Nazi's, would you have bought it?
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you vomited?
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Seriously, if you think this way about a backpack, and you live in America, you had better move on to some other country or be forever labeled a hypocrite.
Starting... NOW.
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I'm not sure why you're so offended by someone re-purposing and selling old German military backpacks, but hey, it's your right to be offended. If you have family or friends that suffered under the Nazis, then you have my sympathies.
As I see it neither the Nazi party nor the ideology they espoused will benefit one iota from this company selling used backpacks, so take a deep breath and try not to lose too much sleep over it. There are still real problems in the world that need our attention.
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Dude, grow the fuck up. We're a country based on the ideal that two people have the right to disagree. Not only do they have that right, but the right to openly express their disagreement. Which fortunately, if distastefully, includes people having the right to walk down the fucking street in full Nazi/Spongebob/KKK regalia while playing the goddamn theme from the A-Team on the kazoo.
So either have a useful discussion or go the fuck home you whiny pusillanimous poster.
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And let's just bring this back a little bit to the topic at hand. I am right at this moment wearing army boots and BDU type cargo pants. Why ? Because I'm a war monger ? Because I specifically wish to extoll the millitary and everything it stands for. No...because millitarys frequently get good gear. Practical, durable, well made. It isn't a surprise that these German bags are still around, the Nazis had some pretty amazing engineers and designers who produced awesome gear and tech. This is a TECH website. From the picture it appears that they already removed any swastikas that might have been on this thing (and handily replaced it with a solar panel...more gadgetry) so I hardly think removing the article as well is warranted...
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you are truly uneducated. you went to auschwitz and got that funny feeling inside. good for you. but your lack of hiistorical knowledge is downright embarassing. Concentration Camps are just on the things the nazis did. they also did countless number of good things too.
let's not forget our USA slaughtered millions of native americans. still hate them?
just leave before someone really tears you a good one...oh wait...
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Are you defending the idea that the Germans made good things during WWII? That the Nazis made good things during WWII? Or a potentially fake bag that is marked as Nazi to capitalize on how great they made things?
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Cant whitewash history dude. The Nazi party killed a lot of people, Jews/Blacks/Poles/Roma died in camps, and the US sympathized more to the Germans than the Japanese.
Selling a backpack aint going to change that bub.
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the discovery of DNA: made by racist eugenicists
beginning of western philosophy: formulated by a bunch of pederasts (greeks)
philosophy which influenced existentialism and modernist/post-mondern thought still used today: formulated by a nazi (heidegger)
80% of electronics in your household? most likely japanese (...nazi allies?!?!? OMG!)
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In short, sir, how dare you make a reasonable and accurate assessment of a piece of backpack gadgetry that is devoid of any morality or ideals by itself? IT TOUCHED NAZIS!!!!1one
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Also, if you even like Obama these days you are a fascist and a communist and a whole bunch of other big words people throw around that they don't really understand...... It's totally antidisestablishmentarianism.
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Not to mention those Germans had cool uniforms, that are forever ruined because they were worn by Nazis.
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In all seriousness, though, I was being serious. Before I grew out of it (read: got too fat) I had a blue-gray Swiss military jacket for cold days. It was pretty snazzy looking, but I kept getting people asking me about it because it looked similar to the German design, which was starting to get annoying.
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That's completely good enough for me.
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