Well I got the version for iphone 2G. It installed fine with no issues. But I've noticed a lot that doesn't work. Visual Voicemail is broken (for now). Also I cannot find the MobileMe settings for 'find my iphone'; it may be disabled since I don't have GPS. Also A2DP (bluetooth stereo) doesn't seems to be working yet. I don't know how you would go about selecting bluetooth stereo headphones in ipod mode??? It has always seen my motorolla S9 headphones, but doesn't function any differently with them now with 3.0.
I'm worried that the 2G is going to be cut off from more of the features as time goes on.
FYI tested in Windows 7 using Update instead of restore and it worked fine. You don't need to restore, I don't know why people always restore instead of update!
@DBrim: Actually, it's not just a service pack as it re-writes major portions of the OS. Leopard is not a true 64 bit os. It's a hybrid 64/32 bit OS. Snow Leopard fixes that, graphics rendering, and a bunch of other things that were frankly dragging the OS down.
And if you'll notice, they're only charging $29 for the upgrade. Which last I knew was far better than ANYTHING Microsoft had put forth, and considering how bad VISTA is, they had really better cut their customers a huge financial break.
I don't consider major system re-writes to be just a service pack. I consider a service pack to be a roll-up of existing system patches already to market, plus a few new ones. Apple just released 10.5.7 recently which was some 450 megs?
Not to mention, the new OS takes up 6 gigs less space than than 10.5 does. Something Neither Vista or Windows 7 can claim.
If MS released a package similar to SL it would be free. The major rewrite you are talking about is something that they had promised to devs forever ago. WTF do you think cocoa was for... Jesus wake up
The OS takes up 6gb less because they killed PPC support AND SP2 for Vista did clean up space.
What's the point in even responding... Go drink some more kool aid fanboi.
@UnderLoK: Actually, if you look above, you'll see where I'm interested in both Win7, and Snow Leopard. But Vista does not run, "Just fine", I support it daily, I use it daily. Hell I use it more than I use MacOS. It's bloated, slow, buggy, and well, like every iteration of Windows since 95 it likes to eat itself to death over time. Only, faster.
If Vista ran "Just fine" then Microsoft wouldn't have had to spend $300 million on a marketing campaign to rebrand Vista as Mojave.
XP is a superior OS to Vista. Period. I'm not "drinking the kooliad". As for how they recovered 6 gig of OS space, if you'd actually bothered to do your homework you'd know why it's smaller. They even said so during the keynote yesterday. If you think Cocoa and PPC support was 6 gig worth of code, you're insane.
Let's take a look at Vista objectively compared to XP. The same applications run slower, and use more memory running under Vista than XP. There were lawsuits filed against Microsoft over its Vista Ready program.
When installing a program that requires administrative access to do so, it will prompt you to cancel your install and re-start it as administrator. OSX simply pops up a prompt and asks you to type in your password. XP doesn't even bother you with this at all. I really liked XP as an OS. It was far superior to 2000 Pro.
But, no, I don't "Fail" the moment I talk about how bad Vista runs. Only pathetic wannabes throw out words like "fail" and "Kool-aid" when trying to make a point. Which, in you're case you haven't made any point.
As for SP2 for Vista cleaning up space... No, not really. It merely cleans up archived versions of files it replaces. Overall it uses about an additional 1 gig of drive space after installation.
But, what the hell do I know? Obviously I'm just a "failed" fanboi drinking the "kool-aid" because I can appreciate that OSX is a good OS, and definitely a superior one to Vista. Windows 7? Not so much, and I can't say that I will consider Snow Leopard better than Windows 7. Right now it is likely I won't.
Sorry, I don't worship at the altar of Microsoft. When they release a shitty product, I call them on it. Same goes for Apple, or even crummy Linux distributions.
So far it looks like Windows 7 is going to jump ahead of OSX in ability and cleanliness of function. I think the only saving grace would be if Snow Leopard managed to really nail the performance improvements that Apple is aiming for.
I use the hell out of expose, and it's one of the best things about OS X, but this is a really trivial update to the app which I'll probably never use. I don't know if applause is really warranted here.
I'm jealous because you have Malware, Bloatware and SOooooo many more viruses than I do. And if your not tech savvy, you have to pay someone to keep your puter up to speed and your hard drive clean and your *OS functional.
@Bodie1550: If your an idiot and click YES and OK on every window that pops up what do you expect? I would also assume that since your not savvy you didn't know that is also how you get a baddie on a Mac.
But then again why should you believe me... I'm not on an Apple commercial.
But the YES and OK windows take so much time and interrupt the flow of your computing, so while their intentions may be good, the fact that they need to exist is not good and assumes you don't know what's up.
Also your last line about Mac users believing every Apple commercial undermines whatever you say by generalizing an entire group of users. Nice going. Who were you trying to convince that Windows users are intelligent? Current Windows users? Way to alienate the group you should be trying to convince.
C'mon Jesus share the link with us, left out in the cold not in the know posers that want to brick our phones because we dont know what we are doing. Please...
you pansies have no sense of adventure. what if christobal columbus sat idly by while some other fellow discovered the new world? where would we be then? i'll tell you where. nazi germany. then you fanboys, with no spines, would have no iPods and Macintoshs because hitler doesn't like fruits.
At this rate we'll probably see a jailbreak within days of the update going live. And I agree with Ponies, there's no chance I'm going to risk bricking my phone for over a week. No matter how small that risk may be.
@2-7offsuit is ioos: Listen, I'm a fan of iPhone piracy as much as the next person, but when it comes to my lifeline to work, it's a risk I'm not willing to take. And in case you don't think I support merging piracy and iPhones, here is my (gimpy) iPhone:
@OMG! Ponies!: Good choice. My coworkers phone bricked while updating (through apple, she is a developer). It was a minor complication and only cost about 10 minutes, but she did have to talk to support.
Some nice features, but easily worth a 10 day wait.
@dagamer34: I think you can with the 'external harddrive' mode. You can install snow leopard on a different external harddrive and launch it from there.
@Justin Flood: I did something like this to test it out, without having to be dependent on pre-release software. If loaded onto an external firewire drive (or bootable eSATA if you have one), you're pretty much set.
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Leopard wasn't a service pack like many asserted (it actually added features), but this is since it adds nothing.
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And if you'll notice, they're only charging $29 for the upgrade. Which last I knew was far better than ANYTHING Microsoft had put forth, and considering how bad VISTA is, they had really better cut their customers a huge financial break.
I don't consider major system re-writes to be just a service pack. I consider a service pack to be a roll-up of existing system patches already to market, plus a few new ones. Apple just released 10.5.7 recently which was some 450 megs?
Not to mention, the new OS takes up 6 gigs less space than than 10.5 does. Something Neither Vista or Windows 7 can claim.
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If MS released a package similar to SL it would be free. The major rewrite you are talking about is something that they had promised to devs forever ago. WTF do you think cocoa was for... Jesus wake up
The OS takes up 6gb less because they killed PPC support AND SP2 for Vista did clean up space.
What's the point in even responding... Go drink some more kool aid fanboi.
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If Vista ran "Just fine" then Microsoft wouldn't have had to spend $300 million on a marketing campaign to rebrand Vista as Mojave.
XP is a superior OS to Vista. Period. I'm not "drinking the kooliad". As for how they recovered 6 gig of OS space, if you'd actually bothered to do your homework you'd know why it's smaller. They even said so during the keynote yesterday. If you think Cocoa and PPC support was 6 gig worth of code, you're insane.
Let's take a look at Vista objectively compared to XP. The same applications run slower, and use more memory running under Vista than XP. There were lawsuits filed against Microsoft over its Vista Ready program.
When installing a program that requires administrative access to do so, it will prompt you to cancel your install and re-start it as administrator. OSX simply pops up a prompt and asks you to type in your password. XP doesn't even bother you with this at all. I really liked XP as an OS. It was far superior to 2000 Pro.
But, no, I don't "Fail" the moment I talk about how bad Vista runs. Only pathetic wannabes throw out words like "fail" and "Kool-aid" when trying to make a point. Which, in you're case you haven't made any point.
As for SP2 for Vista cleaning up space... No, not really. It merely cleans up archived versions of files it replaces. Overall it uses about an additional 1 gig of drive space after installation.
But, what the hell do I know? Obviously I'm just a "failed" fanboi drinking the "kool-aid" because I can appreciate that OSX is a good OS, and definitely a superior one to Vista. Windows 7? Not so much, and I can't say that I will consider Snow Leopard better than Windows 7. Right now it is likely I won't.
Sorry, I don't worship at the altar of Microsoft. When they release a shitty product, I call them on it. Same goes for Apple, or even crummy Linux distributions.
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But, we'll see I guess. I'll end up buying both.
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I use the hell out of expose, and it's one of the best things about OS X, but this is a really trivial update to the app which I'll probably never use. I don't know if applause is really warranted here.
protip: it's all about expose + hot corners.
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I'm jealous because you have Malware, Bloatware and SOooooo many more viruses than I do. And if your not tech savvy, you have to pay someone to keep your puter up to speed and your hard drive clean and your *OS functional.
Yawn.
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But then again why should you believe me... I'm not on an Apple commercial.
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But the YES and OK windows take so much time and interrupt the flow of your computing, so while their intentions may be good, the fact that they need to exist is not good and assumes you don't know what's up.
Also your last line about Mac users believing every Apple commercial undermines whatever you say by generalizing an entire group of users. Nice going. Who were you trying to convince that Windows users are intelligent? Current Windows users? Way to alienate the group you should be trying to convince.
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Some nice features, but easily worth a 10 day wait.
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Well that was pointless...
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