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    Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy

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    Image of bagellord bagellord
    05:40 PM

    In reply to Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy
    They're banning consoles, not live accounts. If you mod it be prepared to pay the consequences.
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    Image of logruszed logruszed
    05:06 PM

    In reply to Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy
    Are thy going to show up and cal the judge a "fag" or a "nub" then teabag/corpse-rape the opposing counsel while screaming insults?
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    Image of logruszed logruszed
    05:07 PM

    @logruszed: nm. I didn't notic this was hardware bans, not behavior TOS bans.
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    Image of madog madog
    03:40 PM

    In reply to Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy
    People can modify and customize anything they own, Microsoft isn't preventing that here. You can put rocket boosters and machine guns on your car if you really wanted to, but that doesn't mean the state will let you drive it on the road. Just as Microsoft doesn't have any obligation to let you on their Live service with your modded device.

    You might get away with it at first, but that doesn't entitle you to use it forever. You might pay taxes for road work, or pay a monthly fee for XBL, but the use of those is a privilege, not a right.

    Furthermore, the road to hell is paved with "good intentions". MS can't discern the pirate from the casual modder, and it would be pretty ridiculous to expect them to.
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    Edited by madog at 11/20/09 3:44 PM madog was starred madog was unstarred
    Image of tastypotatoes tastypotatoes
    12:45 PM

    In reply to Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy
    A lot of you are jumping the gun and assuming that everyone that mods their Xbox 360 is a pirate.

    Sure, I may be one of the few exceptions to this rule - but when my sister knocked over my Xbox for the first time after getting a brand new copy of Forza 2 about 2 years ago I was heart broken that I just lost $60 in a blink of an eye. Ever since then I've made LEGAL back ups of all of my games and kept the original discs stowed away out of harms reach so that I never have to worry about losing my $60 investment into a disc.

    Ever since modifying my console I've lost many of burned games - either from the Xbox being tipped over or just from normal wear and tear - but whenever that happens I just pull out the original and re-rip it and make another copy.

    I think that sure this class-action lawsuit is a little over the line but I think Microsoft should at least hear out the legit people in the modding scene. :(
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    Image of nospoon29 nospoon29
    12:51 PM

    @tastypotatoes: Lay your console on it's side. Problem solved.
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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    12:59 PM

    @nospoon29: Yeah right? Or install the game to the hard drive and the disc isn't spinning.
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    Image of yantelope yantelope
    12:00 PM

    In reply to Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy
    I'm pretty sure that there are conflicting laws on the books as to the legality of modding devices. I know you're not allowed to bypass DRM but you are allowed to expand the functionality of a device. I think that it should be wrong for MS to ban you from using an 3rd party HDD. There should be some onus on MS to prove that the consoles were circumventing copy protection.

    In the end you are using a service they provide and if you don't like the way they run it you can go somewhere else. I guess buy two xboxes and use one for online and mod the other?
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    Image of Deep-Blue Deep-Blue
    12:08 PM

    @yantelope: That is irrelevant in this case, since modding of any kind is explicitly forbidden by the terms of use (read: "contract").
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    Image of Red_Flag Red_Flag
    12:17 PM

    @Deep-Blue: True, but provisions of contracts can be ruled to be unenforceable or in violation of state or federal law. Just because it's signed doesn't mean it's legal.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    12:28 PM

    @Red_Flag: The contract is not a law, but by signing it, Microsoft is reserving their stated rights and you agree to it. Although a contract is open for interpretation and you can open a case stating your argument, but their terms are pretty explicit about modding.
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    Image of Red_Flag Red_Flag
    12:39 PM

    @ripfire: You hit the nail on the head. Contracts still have to conform to federal and state law and are subject to interpretation in a courtroom.

    To even try to declare that Live's contract terms were illegal in respect to modding would be an impossibly uphill battle for the plaintiffs.
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    Edited by Red_Flag at 11/20/09 12:40 PM Red_Flag was starred Red_Flag was unstarred
    Image of robinandtami robinandtami
    01:47 PM

    @yantelope: They aren't saying your can't mod your box perse. They are saying if you do choose to mod your box, you are not going to be using our online service.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11:21 AM

    In reply to Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy
    And now I will stick my fork in this socket, and sue Deere Realty! Daddy needs a new pair of punitive damages.
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    Image of met2art met2art
    11:12 AM

    In reply to Banned Xbox Users Plan a Class-Action Lawsuit, Accuse Microsoft of a Vast Conspiracy
    You did a dumb thing and life kicked you in the balls. Lesson: You don't try to sue the boot, you stop being a whiny bitch who does stupid shit.
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    Edited by met2art at 11/20/09 11:12 AM met2art was starred met2art was unstarred
    Image of JTX JTX
    01:05 PM

    @met2art: You bought one of Microsoft's $150 hard drives, didn't you?
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    met2art promoted this comment JTX was starred JTX was unstarred
    Image of met2art met2art
    01:53 PM

    @JTX: Say what? I didn't, but not sure how you made that assumption...

    #tips
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    Image of JTX JTX
    02:28 PM

    @met2art: I was joking. You seemed quite hostile towards anyone who 'modded' their console. I was making the point that putting in a $40 third-party hard drive instead of Microsoft's $150 one, is considered by Microsoft to be "modding." You seemed angry towards modders, so I joked that you were just jealous that you had been suckered by Microsoft into paying $150 for a hard drive that 'modders' got for $40 :)
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    Image of met2art met2art
    03:10 PM

    @JTX: The reference, as implied by the article was based on people who'd modded their Xbox's specifically for cheating purposes, in violation of the TOS. They wanna do that, that's fine, I'm not here to judge... but to then claim that Microsoft is being unfair? It was in the TOS. RTFM, is what I'm saying.

    I do not own an Xbox, nor do I use (or have ever used) any Microsoft online gaming services. I am therefor not aware if only upgrading the HDD will result in getting you banned from Microsoft online gaming. If it does then that seems unnecessarily heavyhanded... nevertheless, it's spelled out clearly to not do it. So... to do it, and then complain about unfairness smacks of stupidity and entitlement, regardless of the intent. Hence the no sympathy for the dumb. If I'm wrong, then my apologies to people who are both not dumb and are being banned, even though they did absolutely nothing wrong, and are entitled to upgrade the HDD themselves with no consequence.

    #tips
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    Image of Sir Gibler Sir Gibler
    11/17/09

    In reply to Reminder: Xbox 360 Twitter, Last.fm and Zune Video Go Live Today
    the fact that none of those applications run in the background is a deal-breaker... give me notifications and then we'll talk. #xbox360update
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    11/17/09

    In reply to Reminder: Xbox 360 Twitter, Last.fm and Zune Video Go Live Today
    Well, seeing as it costs nothing, I'll DL the stuff tonight. I hope that I can stream my ZunePass content from a Vista-powered puter to my XBox. #xbox360update
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    Image of maven2k maven2k
    11/17/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: I have a Zune HD but no Xbox, this doesn't have any benefits for me, does it? #xbox360update
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    Image of Calzo Calzo
    11/13/09

    In reply to Potential Fix Available For Banned Xbox 360 Users
    They should have made the red rings of death blue. It's more fitting. #bannedxboxworkaround
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    Image of Twanzio Twanzio
    11/13/09

    @Calzo: But they already had the BSOD. Next should be a Yellow Playlist of Doom for the Zune.
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    Calzo promoted this comment Edited by Twanzio at 11/13/09 9:18 PM Twanzio was starred Twanzio was unstarred
    Image of Calzo Calzo
    11/13/09

    @Twanzio: I use this formula: BXOD where X equals the way the Microsoft product tells you it's fucksville population it.
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    Edited by Calzo at 11/13/09 9:33 PM Calzo was starred Calzo was unstarred
    Image of Odin Odin
    11/13/09

    In reply to Now Is a Bad Time to Buy a Used Xbox 360
    Pro tip: If you send the seller a question on eBay asking whether it's banned it could probably help.

    If they say it isn't and it turns out it is then you can take it to eBay and their protection scheme can probably sort it out. #usedxbox360
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    Image of The5thElephant The5thElephant
    11/12/09

    In reply to Your Deteriorating Internal Organs, Reduced to an Xbox Game
    UP UP LEFT DOWN A X A X B
    R-button for God Mode! #thiscyborglife
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    Image of se7a7n7 se7a7n7
    11/12/09

    In reply to Now Is a Bad Time to Buy a Used Xbox 360
    If you buy a 360 on eBay, be sure to use PayPal. Then if the system is truly banned, you just have to file a claim with Paypal and they will definitely get your money back.

    I know this because I sell stuff on eBay all day. #usedxbox360
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    Image of Lizard_King Lizard_King
    11/12/09

    In reply to Now Is a Bad Time to Buy a Used Xbox 360
    Buying a used 360 is never a wise idea - that warranty may be needed. I've upgraded from my launch day units to HDMI units a few years ago, sold my launch units for about $100 a piece less than a new unit, and my warranty clock was reset.

    Now, apparently, I'm the only person to never have a true RROD, and still warranty three units (power failure during firmware upgrade, lightning friend one completely, took out the ethernet on the other). I would be out a ton of money if MS's warranty was not as good as it is. #usedxbox360
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    Image of valkilmerisawful valkilmerisawful
    11/12/09

    In reply to Now Is a Bad Time to Buy a Used Xbox 360
    Wait, did you just tell me to buy a new XBox because the failure rate "isn't that low"? That sounds like the opposite reason to buy something... Please clarify. #usedxbox360
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    Image of cbandes cbandes
    11/12/09

    @valkilmerisawful: I think the point is that since xboxes are failure-prone, if you buy one it is good to have a warranty on it (or to just skip it and go for something more stable) #usedxbox360
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    Image of valkilmerisawful valkilmerisawful
    11/12/09

    @cbandes: Ah, there that makes more sense to me now. #usedxbox360
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