@dragon:ONE: I agree, there should have some sort of program that lets you upgrade 1 year before the end of your contract, but you pay slightly more for the phone
@Gundem: really it doesnt make sense as to why they got rid of it... because if they still had that option then they would had sold alot more 3gs's then they did. Because all of the fanboys upgraded to the 3g, but they couldn't upgrade to the 3gs.
@reluttr: EXACTLY. I wouldn't mind paying a little more for a Tilt2 earlier than having to wait it out until 2011 for any chance of upgrade (they say I can upgrade 'early' to iPhone 3G... on the same date in 2011 as my regular upgrade.)
Of course, the other route for us WinMo users is to fake out enough hardware/warranty replacements that they just decide "screw it, we'll send you a Tilt2".
Since from what I've seen, that's what most Sprint users are doing, after all, with their Touch Pros, and coercing Sprint to give them TP2s.
@Kaiser-Machead: You realize that there are more people on AT&T who are willing to get something other than an iPhone than people on T-Mo who get Android phones....
I, for one, am extremely glad to see that there's a high possibility that the X10 might be AT&T's first Android phone.
@WingedGenius: Seconded. While I have been less than thrilled with the set of Android phones T-Mo's gotten (really? the CLIQ is the best we can do?), AT&T's got nothing. And as much as I dislike AT&T, more Android exposure is better for the platform as a whole. Sprint and Verizon both have solid Android phones (Hero, Droid). If AT&T just ended up with a CLIQ or something, well, that's not exactly a great Android flagship.
Then again, I was personally waiting for something a little more rugged to come to T-Mo to replace my G1. Or just wait til my contract is up and go back to Verizon. ;-)
In all fairness, they do cost quite a bit to make and keep in mind that this is off contract. I'm pretty sure the 3GS costs just about as much off-contract.
@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Yeah, it's a lot but it's not really that outrageous. After all, it does have some killer internals, even if some folks are skeptical about the design.
@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Yep, I was just about to say that. Just checked, they were about 950 to 1050 without a contract. So 880 for a 1 Ghz phone is surpising only because it is so cheap. I'd except this to be subsidized down to about the 150 range.
Btw, I doubt the plastic exterior will make the final cut for the device.
@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Actually, 6000 Swedish kronor is just slightly cheaper than the off contract price of a 3GS 16GB or a HTC HD2 in Denmark right now.
I assume that prices are about the same in Sweden, so it's really not that shocking.
Even despite the so-so videos, I'm still cautiously optimistic about this phone. I think with a little more optimization, it could end up being a killer phone. The only near deal breaker for me right now is the lack of a physical keyboard, but if SE manages to deliver in the end, I may overlook that and get one of these to replace my (much beloved) G1.
Edit: but of course, that all also depends on whether or not I can get it at a very reduced price on contract through T-Mobile.
@otko: Like the other conversation we were having though I don't know if its an end all win for Sony though. Sony needs a US flagship carrier phone. They've shown time and time again they're getting closer with the hardware and the software, they just need the name recognition now. I'd be amazed if many people even know that sony makes cell phones in the US.
I imagine they'll do something like Nokia is doing with the n900. Offer up an unlocked one for the people that really want to go that way but really put a push out for a carrier subsidized phone.
@tande04: That would be ideal. I could see that being a very smart move for SE. Nobody ever says "Hey, how about that new Sony Ericsson phone". I would be very happy to make this my next phone if it were to land on T-Mobile. I've always liked the Xperia line-especially being that HTC really built them. I don't like how chunky it is but you can throw that in the list of non-deal breakers if it's picked up and subsidized. That big screen, the Nexus on top of Android-it would be a sweet fight for mothers love between the Droid and the X10.
"The X10 will make your Droid feel inadequate in February."
Yeah, sure. If you're a fan of fluffy Cloud 9 glass shards flying through heaven's serene yet sterile landscape. In which case....um, why'd you buy the Droid?
I suppose the Snapdragon would be attractive. Assuming they don't underclock it. Those bastards. #xperiax10
@OCEntertainment: Also, I have a feeling X10 owners would happily trade 20% CPU clock freq. for multi-touch and non-Sony-ified compatibility problems that I'm sure it comes with. #xperiax10
@valkilmerisawful: For my part, I have yet to hear one compelling argument in favor of "multitouch" as a feature. Pinch-zooming I can live without. In fact, I prefer tapping an icon. Or, in the new version, double-tapping. Which sounds way more dangerous and less unintentionally sensual then "multitouch". Besides that, I haven't heard of any convincing implementations of multitouch to make it worth any speed decrease.
I can think of one that I've seen that would be cool....but no one else has said it yet. ;-) #xperiax10
@OCEntertainment: I see your point there. I suppose multitouch is just a fancy-pants, and possibly overdone way to do the same thing. I also think this phone is exceedingly badass, or I will as soon as they post a real-time video of it not running like a steaming pile. I have a BB, so I have a zero-touch and was just temporarily twitterpated by the black magic that is multi-touch-ness. #xperiax10
^That's the kind of thing you just can't do with a single-input system. It's mostly useless, except in certain rare circumstances. Nonetheless, it is incredibly cool. In short: it exemplifies everything multitouch is right now.
Why no one else can point this out is beyond me. #xperiax10
@namforellik: I never heard anything about moisture damage. You do blow into it, though, yeah.
Frankly, though, if you can't control the saliva in your mouth, maybe a busted iPhone is just the wake-up call you need to close that lower jaw. #xperiax10
@OCEntertainment: The most compelling reason for multitouch for me (besides the rock lobster AWESOMENESS that is the ocarina app) is the ability for soft keyboards to register two points at once. I can't tell you how many times I've not let up one finger just enough so that I can't type the next letter on my G1.
Other than that, and controls in games, there isn't much. #xperiax10
@Sandeep Murali: Indeed. I wonder if you've ever used a Sony product, before you embarrass yourself. My camera is pretty awesome, it's the size of a credit card and as thinner than my blackberry. However, I have NO choice but to remove my battery to charge it on the wall, and memory stick pro duo is not exactly widely accepted, so I have to carry an adapter with me everywhere I go.
SO, based on your extensive experience with the X10 (within all reasonable probability is as close to zero as we can get), I am comfortable with my level of embarrassment, which is about as close to zero as you are. If you agree, please state "I honestly believe that I would trade my house and home to see Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock make another movie together", and sign below. #xperiax10
@valkilmerisawful: No need to get your panties in a twist. this phone uses MicroSD for storage, MicroUSB for charging/ data transfer and an Open Source OS. Now wipe that egg off your face and start learning to do your homework before you throw out internet cliches like the "Oh that Sony and their proprietary tech" rant. #xperiax10
@Sandeep Murali: Poor little guy, you are one of the least funny, least clever commenters I've conversed with in quite a while. You've missed any sarcasm and have brought nothing entertaining to the table. Patton Oswalt would say to you: "Dude, you are gunna miss everything cool and die angry. You stupid douche-nozzle."
You do not have a talent for corresponding with other persons, as demonstrated by your choice of social gestures and colloquialisms, e.g., "panties in a twist", or "wipe that egg off your face" (and while I'm not exactly sure what it means, it sounds dated and unfamiliar). I doubt anyone likes your company. Good day, Sir. #xperiax10
I really can't wait 'til there's a plethora of these guys to choose from. I finally got a chance to play with my buddy's G1 (not rooted). For first generation hardware and software its a pretty damn awesome device. Its as functional as my heavily modified windows mobile phone ever was.
I need a new phone pretty badly but can't afford to pay an arm and a leg like others have stated.
Who wants to help me find a cheap non-dumbphone I can use on T-Mo!?! #sonyericsson
@tehsquish - Still plays Ultima Online: Assuming you played with the G1 recently, you probable used Donut (1.6). I've had the G1 since pre-Cupcake, and believe me in those two little updates it has come a long friggin' way. I think the regular updates are one of the best things about Android. And part of the reason I'll probably stick with stock Android.
As for cheap, I'd probably wait until after the holidays. By mid-to-late December, we should have a plethora of new phones out for all carriers. By January, there will likely be quite a few sales. The G1 came out in October, by March or April when I got mine, it was already available on Amazon with a Tmo plan for $100. When Android is more ubiquitous and the big release is done, you'll probably see quite a few more sales.
@ilovexspin: Apparently you've not been introduced to Mr. Blurrycam. He's the official pre-release-spy-shot photographer of the entire internet. #sonyericsson
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@#$%#@ upgrade cycle.
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Of course, the other route for us WinMo users is to fake out enough hardware/warranty replacements that they just decide "screw it, we'll send you a Tilt2".
Since from what I've seen, that's what most Sprint users are doing, after all, with their Touch Pros, and coercing Sprint to give them TP2s.
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I, for one, am extremely glad to see that there's a high possibility that the X10 might be AT&T's first Android phone.
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Then again, I was personally waiting for something a little more rugged to come to T-Mo to replace my G1. Or just wait til my contract is up and go back to Verizon. ;-)
11/21/09
will not work.
edit, if it is the 1700 band i am not sure, i know most of the world uses a 2100 that is not compatible with t-mobiles 3g,
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Btw, I doubt the plastic exterior will make the final cut for the device.
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I assume that prices are about the same in Sweden, so it's really not that shocking.
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Edit: but of course, that all also depends on whether or not I can get it at a very reduced price on contract through T-Mobile.
11/18/09
When I look back at all the gadgets I used, surprizingly it's the ones I was more "meh" about that ended up being used the most...
11/18/09
*crossingfingers*
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I imagine they'll do something like Nokia is doing with the n900. Offer up an unlocked one for the people that really want to go that way but really put a push out for a carrier subsidized phone.
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Yeah, sure. If you're a fan of fluffy Cloud 9 glass shards flying through heaven's serene yet sterile landscape. In which case....um, why'd you buy the Droid?
I suppose the Snapdragon would be attractive. Assuming they don't underclock it. Those bastards. #xperiax10
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I can think of one that I've seen that would be cool....but no one else has said it yet. ;-) #xperiax10
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^That's the kind of thing you just can't do with a single-input system. It's mostly useless, except in certain rare circumstances. Nonetheless, it is incredibly cool. In short: it exemplifies everything multitouch is right now.
Why no one else can point this out is beyond me. #xperiax10
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Frankly, though, if you can't control the saliva in your mouth, maybe a busted iPhone is just the wake-up call you need to close that lower jaw. #xperiax10
11/16/09
Other than that, and controls in games, there isn't much. #xperiax10
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SO, based on your extensive experience with the X10 (within all reasonable probability is as close to zero as we can get), I am comfortable with my level of embarrassment, which is about as close to zero as you are. If you agree, please state "I honestly believe that I would trade my house and home to see Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock make another movie together", and sign below. #xperiax10
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You do not have a talent for corresponding with other persons, as demonstrated by your choice of social gestures and colloquialisms, e.g., "panties in a twist", or "wipe that egg off your face" (and while I'm not exactly sure what it means, it sounds dated and unfamiliar). I doubt anyone likes your company. Good day, Sir. #xperiax10
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I really can't wait 'til there's a plethora of these guys to choose from. I finally got a chance to play with my buddy's G1 (not rooted). For first generation hardware and software its a pretty damn awesome device. Its as functional as my heavily modified windows mobile phone ever was.
I need a new phone pretty badly but can't afford to pay an arm and a leg like others have stated.
Who wants to help me find a cheap non-dumbphone I can use on T-Mo!?! #sonyericsson
10/17/09
As for cheap, I'd probably wait until after the holidays. By mid-to-late December, we should have a plethora of new phones out for all carriers. By January, there will likely be quite a few sales. The G1 came out in October, by March or April when I got mine, it was already available on Amazon with a Tmo plan for $100. When Android is more ubiquitous and the big release is done, you'll probably see quite a few more sales.
Best of luck, man! #sonyericsson
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