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    YouTube Shuts Down API Access, Leaves Set-Top Boxes High and Dry (UPDATED)

    Google Adding Automatic Captions to YouTube Videos

    Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)

    YouTube to Offer Paid and Ad-Supported New Release Movie Rentals?

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    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    03:35 PM

    In reply to YouTube Shuts Down API Access, Leaves Set-Top Boxes High and Dry (UPDATED)
    Whoever said Google is not evil should take a good hard look at this. Including those freakin nerds Sergey and his side kick Larry.
     Reply
    Edited by Noobs-R-Us at 11/20/09 3:35 PM Noobs-R-Us was starred Noobs-R-Us was unstarred
    Image of deliciousburglar deliciousburglar
    04:44 PM

    @Noobs-R-Us: i don't understand, why is google trying to monetize Youtube evil?
     Reply
    Noobs-R-Us promoted this comment deliciousburglar was starred deliciousburglar was unstarred
    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    04:53 PM

    @deliciousburglar: Because this is less about monetizing Youtube than about controlling distribution.

    #tips
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    Image of thechansen thechansen
    03:21 PM

    In reply to YouTube Shuts Down API Access, Leaves Set-Top Boxes High and Dry (UPDATED)
    I can understand Goog's reasoning. It is a costly operation and I think we take it for granted. Placing ads in videos has helped ease the burden. Youtube is a business and shouldn't have to tip toe around the issue of other companies making money by playing videos on their devices. It would make sense from Google's point of view to work with these manufactures for some method of placing the ads in their devices. Obviously there is the issue of not being able to click through, but I'm sure Google can come up with a solution.

    I would hate not having the youtubes. Where else can I see fat kids get kicked in the nuts. Might as well let Google follow it's business model of supplying free, ad supported, internet based services. What ever keeps stupid people hurting themselves on video.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    03:51 PM

    @thechansen:
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    Image of Jose_J_Herrera Jose_J_Herrera
    04:14 PM

    @thechansen: Google knew that it was a costly operation before they bought it. YouTube was about to shut down if it weren't for Google because of how much it cost to run the site. What did they think was going to change afterwards?
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    thechansen promoted this comment Jose_J_Herrera was starred Jose_J_Herrera was unstarred
    Image of thechansen thechansen
    05:29 PM

    @Jose_J_Herrera: strangely similar comments aside, google knows a little bit about making cash money and advertising.

    #tips
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    Image of HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
    03:18 PM

    In reply to YouTube Shuts Down API Access, Leaves Set-Top Boxes High and Dry (UPDATED)
    Lame.

    Instead of shutting down the boxes completely, how about re-working the API so it can serve the in-line ads along with the content?
     Reply
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    Image of dry-roasted-peanuts dry-roasted-peanuts
    04:01 PM

    @HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: So, it looks to me like Google has three words for us:
    WE'RE TAKING OVER!
     Reply
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    Image of N@tedog N@tedog
    03:13 PM

    In reply to YouTube Shuts Down API Access, Leaves Set-Top Boxes High and Dry (UPDATED)
    Does anybody use this? I barely access youtube on my PS3. Actually, I can think of only one time and that was to make a playlist of music videos.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    03:13 PM

    In reply to YouTube Shuts Down API Access, Leaves Set-Top Boxes High and Dry (UPDATED)
    So, is it safe to assume that the AppleTV (wassat??) and the iPod touch will still be able to freely access Youtube? I can't imagine they'd be shut out, but given their recent friction, I can't rule it out.
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    Image of Azures Azures
    03:19 PM

    @Kaiser-Machead: i don't get why you would think they'd be any different. i doubt it will leave ipod touch cause that's an app developed under google, appletv however should be eff'd.
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    Kaiser-Machead promoted this comment Azures was starred Azures was unstarred
    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    03:26 PM

    @Azures: Apple has a great deal more pull than a lot of those other hardware vendors out there, namely the likes of the purveyors of Popcorn Hour. Apple made a big deal about its addition to the ATV, and I doubt very much that they'd let it simply disappear. Not to say that there's no possible way that Google would take it away, but I don't believe it would be as easy to do it to Apple.
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    Image of John Herrman John Herrman
    03:47 PM

    @Kaiser-Machead: Almost definitely. That said, shutting Apple devices out would be hiiiiiilarious.
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    Image of Bokusatsu_Tenshi Bokusatsu_Tenshi
    11:51 AM

    In reply to Google Adding Automatic Captions to YouTube Videos
    I can see it now. A dedicate site with the weirdest automatic captions, tons of foreign language videos hijacked for comic effect, tons of video with cussing...
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    Image of Bertone77 Bertone77
    11:22 AM

    In reply to Google Adding Automatic Captions to YouTube Videos
    This calls for the classic:
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11:27 AM

    @Bertone77: The scariest part is, this actually is classic. One of the first internet memes, and still one of the best. The likes of which "I'mma let you finish" and "Yo dawg" could never touch.

    If there were ever an internet museum, this would need a prominent display.

    .....The internet is friggin' weird.
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    Image of Bertone77 Bertone77
    11:31 AM

    @OCEntertainment: Its all about the replay value, I have seen this tons of times and it still makes me laugh every. single. time.
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    Image of Benguin Benguin
    11/13/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    How about instead of all this extraneous bullshit Youtube implements the one feature I've been craving since day one: AN OPTION TO DISABLE FUCKING AUTO-PLAY.

    It's so obvious that it's ridiculous that it's taken this long.

    ... and yes, I already have the Firefox plugins. But I'd prefer a built-in solution. #gizmodoremainders
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    Image of se7a7n7 se7a7n7
    11/12/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    The USB FM radio could be useful sometimes when you want to listen to a channel the doesn't or won't broadcast.

    For example.. A local station where I live cuts off it's online broadcast when it runs live KU football & basketball games (which is the only time I would want to listen). They cut the online broadcast because KU wants anyone listening online to be paying for the broadcast through another service they have.

    Also you could use it for easy rebroadcasting of a station online... Take what you pick up over the air and broadcast it online. There might be some legal problems there. But it would be a super low budget and easy way for a small station to get their broadcast online. #gizmodoremainders
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    09/03/09

    In reply to YouTube to Offer Paid and Ad-Supported New Release Movie Rentals?
    Look, not that I'm not all in favor of more internet-based media, but isn't this kind of the opposite of the point of YouTube? I mean YouTube was supposed to be a platform for the everyman broadcast. A place where you could garner a public audience no matter how awful your video/vlog is.

    I suppose the combination of a solid video streaming platform and a solid brand is appealing to some folks. It just doesn't fit, IMHO.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    09/02/09

    In reply to YouTube to Offer Paid and Ad-Supported New Release Movie Rentals?
    Oh my...
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    Image of Strawman Strawman
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    Am i the only one that cares that the number of CDs held by an ipod is misrepresented?

    People, MP3s are not the same as CDs. You're losing when you don't compress
    lossless.
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    Brian Lam promoted this comment Strawman was starred Strawman was unstarred
    Image of thebigcheese thebigcheese
    08/28/09

    @Strawman: I was thinking that, too. CDs hold .wav, usually, so if you think of each song as being at least 60 MB, you get a better picture. That's about 2000 songs, or somewhere around 200 CDs. HUGE difference.

    Although, granted, still a lot more than 1 CD and I could still put my whole collection on 1 iPod (if I had that big one).
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    Margatron promoted this comment Edited by thebigcheese at 08/28/09 10:20 AM thebigcheese was starred thebigcheese was unstarred
    Image of Margatron Margatron
    08/28/09

    @thebigcheese: There's a similar misrepresentation with the 12" records. The number would be far smaller than that since records have zero compression and represent far more data in the subharmonic ranges that's usually clipped when changed to digital. I'd have to ask the audio tech guys at work for a guess at how much data would be for one record.
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    Image of Complexified Complexified
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    My phone's memory card has a higher storage capacity than my first desktop computer (3gb HDD back in 1996) and few years from now, we'll all be laughing at 1TB...so what's their point with this comparison?
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    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment Edited by Complexified at 08/28/09 1:24 AM Complexified was starred Complexified was unstarred
    Image of üli von strüple üli von strüple
    08/28/09

    @Complexified:
    so in other words man shouldnt concern himself with progression?
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    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment üli von strüple was starred üli von strüple was unstarred
    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: "so what's their point with this comparison?"

    OH in the name of Gautama, here we go again...
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    Image of itchytooth itchytooth
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: Would you deny future generations the same opportunity to laugh that we've had?
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    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: And the 512MB memory card in my point-and-shoot holds two and a half times as much as the HDD in my first desktop. It's pointless, but it's damn cool to think about.
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    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: My first desktop didn't have a hard drive....
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    Image of Brodka: regrettably Brodka: regrettably
    08/28/09

    @Barry99705: Mine either. We had an IBM Peanut. Had 128k and a 5.25 floppy. We later upgraded it to 256k. Boo-Ya.

    Broderbund's Ancient Art of War FTW.
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    Image of dingus dingus
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    Yes, but how many Libraries of Congresses in a Hulu?
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    Image of teknowaffle teknowaffle
    08/28/09

    @dingus: but how many hogsheads in a hulu?

    And how many hulus in a fortnight
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    Identity: Omg! Nessie! promoted this comment teknowaffle was starred teknowaffle was unstarred
    Image of Identity (Metric) Identity (Metric)
    08/28/09

    @teknowaffle: How many records in a jukebox?

    And how many twitters in a handbasket?
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    Image of kylewilson kylewilson
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    120GB = 120 * 1024 = 122880MB / 700MB/CD = 175.54 CDs. Someone fails at math.
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    Image of dannydutton dannydutton
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: They are not basing the amount of cds using actual storage, they are counting it in minutes.

    83.3 days * 24 hours *60 minutes = 119952 minutes on an ipod

    119952/ 80mins on a cd = 1499.4 cds
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    Image of seapathac seapathac
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: I think they meant in length of music not actual data so... if you take (83.3Days * 24 hours * 60 minutes) / 80 minute CD you get 1,499.4 compact discs. So yes someone does fail at math... or it's just misleading.
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    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment seapathac was starred seapathac was unstarred
    Image of Jux Jux
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: Working it from the available time of storage, the math works but I'm not sure how he came up with the base of 1500 CD's.
    1500 CDs * 80 mins = 120,000 mins
    120,000 mins / 60 = 2,000 hours
    2,000 hours/24 = 83.3 days
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    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment Edited by Jux at 08/28/09 1:34 AM Jux was starred Jux was unstarred
    Image of kylewilson kylewilson
    08/28/09

    @dannydutton: There's no reason you can't store audio in the same format on a cd as you would on a hard drive (or some cloud storage or whatever this is advertising). If they're talking about 128kbps(ish) mp3/aac (which they probably are), then the quality isn't close to comparable with uncompressed CD audio. You should compare apples to apples, not apples to monkey crap. (12" vinyl also stores audio at much higher fidelity than 128kbps mp3/aac, so that comparison is also unfair)
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    A strolling player promoted this comment kylewilson was starred kylewilson was unstarred
    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: You're forgetting that nearly all listeners don't know or care about the difference between the 128kbps AAC they got off iTunes two years ago and the CD they bought three years before that. Not everyone is searching what.cd for a V0 copy of Jagged Little Pill.

    You can go on about the quality difference, and as an audiophile I would agree. But the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of users frankly don't give a toss. So let's try this again.

    120GB * 1024MB/GB = 122880 MB.
    Given that, at 128kbps, 1MB is about 1 minute of music, which it is,
    122880min/(80min/CD) = 1536 CDs.

    Since an iPod has a hard drive, and given the discrepancy between advertised and actual hard disk space (1 GB = 1 billion bytes as opposed to 1024^3 bytes), a more accurate calculation would be this:

    120*1000*1000*1000/1024/1024 = 114441 MB.
    Given that 1MB=1min,
    114441min/(80min/CD) = 1431 CDs.

    So yes, I'd consider 1500 a fair estimate.
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