• Gizmodo
  • bestmodo
  • lifehacker
  • kotaku
  • Profile logout login

#youtube#popular

Gizmodo

Share Cancel
   
Upload an image | Add an image URL
×

logging in
  • FAQ. Include # before tag:
  • #tips,
  • #dealzmodo,
  • #rumors,
  • #broken,
  • #iphoneapps,
  • #apple,
  • etc.

New York, 4:31 PM
Mon Nov 16
31 posts in the last 24 hours

FR | IT | DE | SP | JP | AU | BR

Gizmodo Team

Tip your editors:
tips@gizmodo.com

Editorial Director:
Brian Lam | Email | Twitter

Editor:
Jason Chen
Email | AIM | Twitter

Features Editor:
Wilson Rothman
Email | Twitter

Senior Contributing Editors:
Jesus Diaz
Email | AIM | Twitter
Mark Wilson, Reviews
Email | AIM | Twitter

Contributing Editors:
Matt Buchanan
Email | AIM | Twitter
Adam Frucci
Email | Twitter
Sean Fallon
Email | Twitter
Jack Loftus
Email | Twitter
John Herrman
Email | Twitter
Dan Nosowitz
Email
Chris Mascari
Email
Danny Allen
Email | Twitter
Rosa Golijan
Email | Twitter
Chris Jacob
Email

Columnist:
Brendan I. Koerner

Interns:
Don Nguyen
Email
Kyle VanHemert
Email

Comment Intern:
Nick Ellenoff | Email

Heroes and Friends

Comment Account Questions:
Comments@gizmodo.com

SUBSCRIBE TO Gizmodo RSS

New: Breaking news and daily top stories via email
9515 Subscribers
Gizmodo
  • Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.
    Dsmvwl  Admin  Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×
    Image of Benguin Benguin
    11/13/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    How about instead of all this extraneous bullshit Youtube implements the one feature I've been craving since day one: AN OPTION TO DISABLE FUCKING AUTO-PLAY.

    It's so obvious that it's ridiculous that it's taken this long.

    ... and yes, I already have the Firefox plugins. But I'd prefer a built-in solution. #gizmodoremainders
     Reply
    Benguin was starred Benguin was unstarred
    Image of se7a7n7 se7a7n7
    11/12/09

    In reply to Remainders - Stuff We Didn't Post (and Why)
    The USB FM radio could be useful sometimes when you want to listen to a channel the doesn't or won't broadcast.

    For example.. A local station where I live cuts off it's online broadcast when it runs live KU football & basketball games (which is the only time I would want to listen). They cut the online broadcast because KU wants anyone listening online to be paying for the broadcast through another service they have.

    Also you could use it for easy rebroadcasting of a station online... Take what you pick up over the air and broadcast it online. There might be some legal problems there. But it would be a super low budget and easy way for a small station to get their broadcast online. #gizmodoremainders
     Reply
    se7a7n7 was starred se7a7n7 was unstarred
    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    09/03/09

    In reply to YouTube to Offer Paid and Ad-Supported New Release Movie Rentals?
    Look, not that I'm not all in favor of more internet-based media, but isn't this kind of the opposite of the point of YouTube? I mean YouTube was supposed to be a platform for the everyman broadcast. A place where you could garner a public audience no matter how awful your video/vlog is.

    I suppose the combination of a solid video streaming platform and a solid brand is appealing to some folks. It just doesn't fit, IMHO.
     Reply
    OCEntertainment was starred OCEntertainment was unstarred
    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    09/02/09

    In reply to YouTube to Offer Paid and Ad-Supported New Release Movie Rentals?
    Oh my...
     Reply
    Kaiser-Machead was starred Kaiser-Machead was unstarred
    Image of Strawman Strawman
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    Am i the only one that cares that the number of CDs held by an ipod is misrepresented?

    People, MP3s are not the same as CDs. You're losing when you don't compress
    lossless.
     Reply
    Brian Lam promoted this comment Strawman was starred Strawman was unstarred
    Image of thebigcheese thebigcheese
    08/28/09

    @Strawman: I was thinking that, too. CDs hold .wav, usually, so if you think of each song as being at least 60 MB, you get a better picture. That's about 2000 songs, or somewhere around 200 CDs. HUGE difference.

    Although, granted, still a lot more than 1 CD and I could still put my whole collection on 1 iPod (if I had that big one).
     Reply
    Margatron promoted this comment Edited by thebigcheese at 08/28/09 10:20 AM thebigcheese was starred thebigcheese was unstarred
    Image of Margatron Margatron
    08/28/09

    @thebigcheese: There's a similar misrepresentation with the 12" records. The number would be far smaller than that since records have zero compression and represent far more data in the subharmonic ranges that's usually clipped when changed to digital. I'd have to ask the audio tech guys at work for a guess at how much data would be for one record.
     Reply
    Margatron was starred Margatron was unstarred
    Image of Complexified Complexified
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    My phone's memory card has a higher storage capacity than my first desktop computer (3gb HDD back in 1996) and few years from now, we'll all be laughing at 1TB...so what's their point with this comparison?
     Reply
    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment Edited by Complexified at 08/28/09 1:24 AM Complexified was starred Complexified was unstarred
    Image of üli von strüple üli von strüple
    08/28/09

    @Complexified:
    so in other words man shouldnt concern himself with progression?
     Reply
    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment üli von strüple was starred üli von strüple was unstarred
    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: "so what's their point with this comparison?"

    OH in the name of Gautama, here we go again...
     Reply
    (Starman) Starman was starred (Starman) Starman was unstarred
    Image of itchytooth itchytooth
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: Would you deny future generations the same opportunity to laugh that we've had?
     Reply
    itchytooth was starred itchytooth was unstarred
    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: And the 512MB memory card in my point-and-shoot holds two and a half times as much as the HDD in my first desktop. It's pointless, but it's damn cool to think about.
     Reply
    A strolling player was starred A strolling player was unstarred
    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    08/28/09

    @Complexified: My first desktop didn't have a hard drive....
     Reply
    Barry99705 was starred Barry99705 was unstarred
    Image of Brodka: regrettably Brodka: regrettably
    08/28/09

    @Barry99705: Mine either. We had an IBM Peanut. Had 128k and a 5.25 floppy. We later upgraded it to 256k. Boo-Ya.

    Broderbund's Ancient Art of War FTW.
     Reply
    Brodka: regrettably was starred Brodka: regrettably was unstarred
    Image of dingus dingus
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    Yes, but how many Libraries of Congresses in a Hulu?
     Reply
    dingus was starred dingus was unstarred
    Image of teknowaffle teknowaffle
    08/28/09

    @dingus: but how many hogsheads in a hulu?

    And how many hulus in a fortnight
     Reply
    Identity: Omg! Nessie! promoted this comment teknowaffle was starred teknowaffle was unstarred
    Image of Identity (Metric) Identity (Metric)
    08/28/09

    @teknowaffle: How many records in a jukebox?

    And how many twitters in a handbasket?
     Reply
    Identity (Metric) was starred Identity (Metric) was unstarred
    Image of kylewilson kylewilson
    08/28/09

    In reply to Digital vs. Analog Storage: How Many VHS Tapes Equal One Hulu.com?
    120GB = 120 * 1024 = 122880MB / 700MB/CD = 175.54 CDs. Someone fails at math.
     Reply
    kylewilson was starred kylewilson was unstarred
    Image of dannydutton dannydutton
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: They are not basing the amount of cds using actual storage, they are counting it in minutes.

    83.3 days * 24 hours *60 minutes = 119952 minutes on an ipod

    119952/ 80mins on a cd = 1499.4 cds
     Reply
    dannydutton was starred dannydutton was unstarred
    Image of seapathac seapathac
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: I think they meant in length of music not actual data so... if you take (83.3Days * 24 hours * 60 minutes) / 80 minute CD you get 1,499.4 compact discs. So yes someone does fail at math... or it's just misleading.
     Reply
    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment seapathac was starred seapathac was unstarred
    Image of Jux Jux
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: Working it from the available time of storage, the math works but I'm not sure how he came up with the base of 1500 CD's.
    1500 CDs * 80 mins = 120,000 mins
    120,000 mins / 60 = 2,000 hours
    2,000 hours/24 = 83.3 days
     Reply
    (Starman) AnalysisDialysis promoted this comment Edited by Jux at 08/28/09 1:34 AM Jux was starred Jux was unstarred
    Image of kylewilson kylewilson
    08/28/09

    @dannydutton: There's no reason you can't store audio in the same format on a cd as you would on a hard drive (or some cloud storage or whatever this is advertising). If they're talking about 128kbps(ish) mp3/aac (which they probably are), then the quality isn't close to comparable with uncompressed CD audio. You should compare apples to apples, not apples to monkey crap. (12" vinyl also stores audio at much higher fidelity than 128kbps mp3/aac, so that comparison is also unfair)
     Reply
    A strolling player promoted this comment kylewilson was starred kylewilson was unstarred
    Image of A strolling player A strolling player
    08/28/09

    @kylewilson: You're forgetting that nearly all listeners don't know or care about the difference between the 128kbps AAC they got off iTunes two years ago and the CD they bought three years before that. Not everyone is searching what.cd for a V0 copy of Jagged Little Pill.

    You can go on about the quality difference, and as an audiophile I would agree. But the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of users frankly don't give a toss. So let's try this again.

    120GB * 1024MB/GB = 122880 MB.
    Given that, at 128kbps, 1MB is about 1 minute of music, which it is,
    122880min/(80min/CD) = 1536 CDs.

    Since an iPod has a hard drive, and given the discrepancy between advertised and actual hard disk space (1 GB = 1 billion bytes as opposed to 1024^3 bytes), a more accurate calculation would be this:

    120*1000*1000*1000/1024/1024 = 114441 MB.
    Given that 1MB=1min,
    114441min/(80min/CD) = 1431 CDs.

    So yes, I'd consider 1500 a fair estimate.
     Reply
    A strolling player was starred A strolling player was unstarred
    Image of drewdrawshashtags drewdrawshashtags
    08/07/09

    In reply to DDOS Attack Against Facebook, Twitter, Et Al. Was Because of One Guy's LiveJournal
    You know that you're big on Twitter when the KGB hacks it to shut you up.
    They should have just unfollowed.
     Reply
    drewdrawshashtags was starred drewdrawshashtags was unstarred
    Image of DwayneGebsite DwayneGebsite
    08/07/09

    In reply to DDOS Attack Against Facebook, Twitter, Et Al. Was Because of One Guy's LiveJournal
    is Giz still having poblems? The entire Gawker network is not working normally. i havent seen a picture on the site for days, and thats after it takes 10 minutes to load the site. its like being on dial-up. but worse.
     Reply
    reddingofish promoted this comment DwayneGebsite was starred DwayneGebsite was unstarred
    Image of reddingofish reddingofish
    08/07/09

    @DwayneGebsite: Have you run a spyware checker lately? And don't say I don't need to because I am on a Mac, if you are on Solaris or HPUX I would understand but otherwise run a spyware scan or go to your internet properties and check the box that says show pictures.
     Reply
    reddingofish was starred reddingofish was unstarred
    Image of Metkis Metkis
    08/07/09

    In reply to DDOS Attack Against Facebook, Twitter, Et Al. Was Because of One Guy's LiveJournal
    I'm curious what most star posters think of 4Chan.
     Reply
    Barry99705 promoted this comment Metkis was starred Metkis was unstarred
    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    08/07/09

    @Metkis: Waste of time, just like facebook.
     Reply
    Barry99705 was starred Barry99705 was unstarred
    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    08/07/09

    @Metkis: That community would be better served on IRC.

    4Chan just speaking of the site itself has always been way too annoying for me to ever use. It's like they started to develop it in 97 and never finished. I still don't understand how people can stand it.As far as the users (hackers) go, I don't care.

    Before that they were all on IRC and didn't take stupid risks like going to a site like 4Chan.
     Reply
    Edited by UnderLoK at 08/07/09 8:22 AM UnderLoK was starred UnderLoK was unstarred
    Image of Draco_2k Draco_2k
    08/07/09

    @Metkis: I'm not a star commenter... But what the hell.
    If you ever look at 4Chan, do remember to appreciate the moment - because you're looking in the mirror image of our entire society stripped of social norms, laws, false responsibility, peer pressure, cultural influence, forced behaviour and abridged freedom of expression.
    This is how sad we really are.
     Reply
    UnderLoK promoted this comment Draco_2k was starred Draco_2k was unstarred
    Image of orthorim orthorim
    08/07/09

    In reply to DDOS Attack Against Facebook, Twitter, Et Al. Was Because of One Guy's LiveJournal
    The only thing I wonder is how much worse this needs to get until the internet gets an upgrade to prevent DDOS attacks.
    I don't know why there isn't hardware to protect against it, actually. I mean I know there is but it doesn't seem to work particularly well.
    How can 10,000 or even 100,000 PCs bring down a website? That's what is baffling to me. Something somewhere is seriously screwy.
    One thing is obvious - it is extremely cheap and easy to rent a botnet with a few 10,000 nodes. A few thousands dollars and you are in. There is no relation to the cost of defending against such an attack.
     Reply
    UnderLoK promoted this comment orthorim was starred orthorim was unstarred
    Image of Accelerata Accelerata
    08/07/09

    @orthorim: with IP source address spoofing, its becomes virtually impossible to determine which requests are legitimate automatically. if every single router on the internet guarded against IP spoofing, you might be able to limit it greatly, but there's nothing an individual server can do. as long as you have access to more bandwidth than your target (usually via a large bot net), there's really no way to stop it automatically. you have to trace the packets backwards, hop at a time, to determine the sources and then block all traffic from them.
     Reply
    discounteggroll promoted this comment Accelerata was starred Accelerata was unstarred
    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    08/07/09

    @orthorim: For the average attack there are plenty of ways to block the traffic, however if it saturates your connection you’re screwed. This is why the bigger sites have massive amounts of hardware and the data center they sit in has unreal amounts of bandwidth to protect them from such attacks.

    The data center I used to be in had 24 gig-e connections on all major carriers (att, quest, L3, tw, etc) which put them at an advantage (and their customers). On a few occasions we had some pretty big DDOS attacks which the data center just blocked at the border for us. Our connection was only 100mb, but the DDOS was 2gb. Since the data center had over 24gb we never skipped a beat. Most of the traffic was coming in via ATT so they called up ATT and they dropped the route to our site on their end which put a stop to 80% of the attack. The other attacks were similar in nature and luckily they weren’t well distributed so they were easily blocked.

    Articles like this make the art of mitigating a DDOS sound simplistic or even hopeless, but if you are in a good data center, with quality gear, that is usually not the case (not always). The problem with Twitter is if someone farts on it, it goes down.
     Reply
    Edited by UnderLoK at 08/07/09 9:09 AM UnderLoK was starred UnderLoK was unstarred
    Image of badasscat badasscat
    08/07/09

    @orthorim: It's not "the internet" that needs an upgrade, and it's not even particularly difficult to defend against a DoS attack. It's just a bandwidth issue. Every company contracts for the amount of bandwidth they think they need - there's no point paying for more. The problem is when a DoS attack happens, the required bandwidth suddenly increases exponentially. It's not that the internet as a whole or even the web host can't handle it, it's that the site in question hasn't bought that bandwidth. And it takes time to ramp up, because it's not a question of just the pipes... it can also be your load balancer or even your servers, which have hardware in them commensurate with the bandwidth you've purchased, and they need to be quickly upgraded and/or replicated too (all while your site continues to run).

    Blocking traffic is problematic for a whole bunch of reasons, but it's not really necessary. All that's necessary is bandwidth.

    I worked for a company that was DDoS'd several times, and the first time was really bad because we just hadn't prepared. We knew what needed to be done (basically calling up our host and telling them to temporarily increase our bandwidth) but it just took around 8 hours to do it. The 2nd and 3rd times were barely a blip, though, because by then we'd gotten new network hardware, had a few "standby" servers ready and also had a new contract that basically added DDoS detection and automatically increased our bandwidth temporarily.

    I think most companies just don't do these things until they're hit the first time.
     Reply
    Edited by badasscat at 08/07/09 2:42 PM badasscat was starred badasscat was unstarred
    Image of bluetom00 bluetom00
    08/07/09

    In reply to DDOS Attack Against Facebook, Twitter, Et Al. Was Because of One Guy's LiveJournal
    History lesson kids: If you transliterate from the Cyrillic, it's actually pronounced "Sukhumi" in the Latin alphabet, which also happens to be the name of the capital city of a region that both Russia and Georgia claim as their own. Wow, seven years later and those Russian classes finally pay off.
     Reply
    bluetom00 was starred bluetom00 was unstarred
    Image of negated: has star powah negated: has star powah
    08/06/09

    In reply to DDOS Attack Against Facebook, Twitter, Et Al. Was Because of One Guy's LiveJournal
    We really should convince the rabidly patriotic Russian hackers that the rabidly patriotic North Korean hackers and rabidly patriotic Chinese hackers are out to hack their shit. And sit back with popcorn.
    But seriously, isn't it kind of pathetic that all the countries with closed presses have their own personal volunteer hacker armies taking down some of the largest sites on the net, and the closest we've got is 4chan?
     Reply
    DeusExMach will still be strong after the boys of Summermodo have gone. promoted this comment negated: has star powah was starred negated: has star powah was unstarred
    Image of deanbmmv deanbmmv
    08/06/09

    In reply to DDOS Attack Against Facebook, Twitter, Et Al. Was Because of One Guy's LiveJournal
    DDOS attacks are getting frighteningly frequent and easy to do.
    Just past month there's been several high profile DDOS's, the independence day one, the AT&T/4chan one, Gawker at the weekend, then all this stuff yesterday
    And I'm sure there's many that don't make it to the news.
    Also why is this guy special enough to get someone/somegroup to attack him and the sites he visits?
     Reply
    Edited by deanbmmv at 08/06/09 11:42 PM deanbmmv was starred deanbmmv was unstarred
    Earlier discussions Other discussions Show all discussions Show featured discussions only Start a new discussion

Login

Enter your username and password.

Please enter a username.
Please enter your password.
logging in
Login via Facebook | Sign Up | Forgot Password?

Reset Password

Please enter your email address to have your password reset.

Please enter your email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
requesting password reset

Register

Registering will give you a user profile and the ability to add other users as friends. To become a commenter, however, you need to audition.

Want to know more? Consult the Comment FAQ and legal terms.

Please enter a username.
Please enter a password.
Please confirm your password.
Passwords are not identical.
Please enter a valid email address.
registration sent, waiting for reply

Submit Your Comment

You don't need to login to comment. Just enter your email address below.

See how your address will be displayed in the Comment FAQ.

Please enter a valid email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
logging in

Login with your Facebook or Gizmodo account.

Sign up here.



  • Archives
  • About
  • Advertising
  • Legal
  • Help
  • Report a Bug
  • FAQ
Original material is licensed under a Creative Commons License permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution.