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With the slimmed down execution units and cache the Atom will continue to be slow for multi-tasking even at 2GHz. But for most people it will continue to cut into sales of the more profitable bigger brothers for Intel.
"This means it could almost be used in a cellphone."
I love hearing stories like these. One day cellphones will probably be as powerful as today's fastest supercomputers (if we are still using cellphones). It's so neat to know how quickly technology changes. The space shuttles are still running on 1MB of RAM and are about 0.005 percent as powerful as an xbox 360.
"One day cellphones will probably be as powerful as today's fastest supercomputers"
Not sure that's true anymore. The fastest supercomputer today can achieve 1.5 petaflops. I could not find exact information about this, but I would expect a phone like the iPhone to be rated at around 0.5 gigaflops (it performs more or less at the level of a 400MHz G3 computer).
Anyway, that's a difference of 3000 times, in other words, you'd have to double the performance of the phone 11-12 times to get it up to the performance of today's fastest supercomputers.
How many generations do you think Moore's law has left? Certainly not enough to double performance 11-12 times. If we're lucky we'll be able to squeeze out two-three more generations of smaller chips before Moore's law is no longer able to be satisfied. We're approaching the physical limits here.
So, supposing someday we do have cellphones with today's super-computer power, this will 1) take much, much longer than it has in the past 2) be prerequisite on changing the fundamental way our computers work.
Oops, I just realized. That's not a difference of 3000 times, that's a difference of 3,000,000 times. Such a difference could never be made up for using computers that work on the same physical principles as the ones we have today.
@hfutrell: But you fail to realize that Moore's law doesn't only take into account the power/size of a single chip, so simply double the number of cores in about the same footprint and Moore's law has survived for another generation...
Everyone has known that there is a physical limit to the speed/size of individual processor cores for some time (Remember the high end PIVs?). But that doesn't directly translate into the failure of Moore's Law.
@hfutrell: So even on the theoretical timeline of Moore's law, cell phones becoming as powerful as current super-computers would still be a LOOOOONNG way off...
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I love hearing stories like these. One day cellphones will probably be as powerful as today's fastest supercomputers (if we are still using cellphones). It's so neat to know how quickly technology changes. The space shuttles are still running on 1MB of RAM and are about 0.005 percent as powerful as an xbox 360.
03/20/09
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03/20/09
03/20/09
"One day cellphones will probably be as powerful as today's fastest supercomputers"
Not sure that's true anymore. The fastest supercomputer today can achieve 1.5 petaflops. I could not find exact information about this, but I would expect a phone like the iPhone to be rated at around 0.5 gigaflops (it performs more or less at the level of a 400MHz G3 computer).
Anyway, that's a difference of 3000 times, in other words, you'd have to double the performance of the phone 11-12 times to get it up to the performance of today's fastest supercomputers.
How many generations do you think Moore's law has left? Certainly not enough to double performance 11-12 times. If we're lucky we'll be able to squeeze out two-three more generations of smaller chips before Moore's law is no longer able to be satisfied. We're approaching the physical limits here.
So, supposing someday we do have cellphones with today's super-computer power, this will 1) take much, much longer than it has in the past 2) be prerequisite on changing the fundamental way our computers work.
03/20/09
Oops, I just realized. That's not a difference of 3000 times, that's a difference of 3,000,000 times. Such a difference could never be made up for using computers that work on the same physical principles as the ones we have today.
03/20/09
Everyone has known that there is a physical limit to the speed/size of individual processor cores for some time (Remember the high end PIVs?). But that doesn't directly translate into the failure of Moore's Law.
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