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S-Express
10/06/09

In reply to Microsoft: There's Still a Sliver of Hope For Zune On Apple Products
Unlimited Zune pass on my iPhone...

Give music back to MS when I stop paying them...

Meh!
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Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
10/07/09

@S-Express: You mean the one you still don't have?
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Lukasz Fabis
10/07/09

@Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected:
Breaking News! This just in: iTunes music purchases have been DRM-free since April. More on this story 7 months ago...
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teohhanhui
10/07/09

@Lukasz Fabis: I guess most people don't care as long as they can listen to the music they want.
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ovil200
10/07/09

@teohhanhui: I have a Zune 120 GB as well as a 16 GB Zune HD, both of which I love very much. I'm subscribed to Zune Pass as well. Oh, you all know there are plenty of programs that remove the DRM, right..?
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Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected
10/07/09

@ovil200: Um, could you maybe, I don't know...

..name a few? I'm not interested in ever doing that of course, I'm just curious.
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senatormayer
10/06/09

In reply to Microsoft: There's Still a Sliver of Hope For Zune On Apple Products
Why hasn't anyone said the obvious? A Zune Pass App. Have it synchronized between the Mac and iPod with the Zune Pass Account. Am I forgetting a crucial little nugget of info that would stop Microsoft from doing this?
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Dunny0
10/06/09

@senatormayer: Apple would have to approve it, and since it duplicates the functionality of the inbuilt iPod app, I could see them denying it.
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Monty
10/06/09

In reply to Microsoft: There's Still a Sliver of Hope For Zune On Apple Products
Current Zune HD Instructions for running on Macintosh:
1. Install Windows 7 with Boot Camp on your Apple Macintosh Computer.
2. Follow standard Windows installation.

Kudos to Kaiser-Machead (read his rant below) for busting out the tough-love on iTunes. It is a program we all must use, but most of us hate doing so.
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Kaiser-Machead
10/06/09

In reply to Microsoft: There's Still a Sliver of Hope For Zune On Apple Products
Now would be the perfect time for Microsoft to start running out some code to get Zune + Zune Desktop onto OS X, especially with how FUCKING SHITTY iTunes 9 is. Plug in an iPod touch, iTunes 9 sits there and verifies the iPod for a few minutes, while the beachball-o-stall is running. After maybe 5 minutes of waiting for this to stop, then I'll try to put some music on it. Syncing speed has significantly decreased. Beachball comes back, and sticks around for a longer period of time. Verifying iPod again, again, longer than before. iPod reads "Sync in Progress" on the display. Do Not Cancel I only say this because every so often, your iPod will still have the content on it, but when accessing the interface, the music and videos may not actually show up in the iPod player. Restarting sometimes works, other times it requires you to hook it back into the PC to verify again (again, which can vary between 5 minutes and above). It's come to the point where it's too slow to quickly load music on my iPod at the last minute before leaving the apartment, which was something I've enjoyed for years. If Zune can provide something more suitable for this purpose for OS X, I may have to bite the bullet.

Sorry for the rant, but like Sam Jackson would say Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking glitches on this motherfucking application!
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Johnny Chimpo
10/06/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Seconded. I had a very strange error using iTunes 9 last night. I was trying to sync my aTV and I kept getting a "firewall" error. I reset my router, Macbook, and aTV... Long story short, Home Sharing was causing the problem and all i had to do was click "No Thanks" and bingo, sync resumed working and I could watch Curb.
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Kaiser-Machead
10/06/09

@Johnny Chimpo: The only thing I actually like about this new iTunes is the fact that I can copy over files over the network to the other libraries, but this is something that should've been there since the beginning. Other than that, this is by far the absolute worst experience I've ever had with iTunes. I've always had some glitches here and there, but generally the worst was on the Windows version. Now it looks like the bugs are multiplying exponentially.
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SpudMills
10/06/09

In reply to Microsoft: There's Still a Sliver of Hope For Zune On Apple Products
Why rub hog poop all over a prize chicken?
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John Herrman
10/06/09

@SpudMills: I disagree with your sentiment, but may I PLEASE steal that saying? THANKS!
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mxpx5678
05/15/09

In reply to New Zune Ad Obliterated Because, You Know, It's Stupid
It still really isn't the best argument. Most people like the Apple players better and it is a feature that Apple could add at any time. It is a horrible feature to try and differentiate on.
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Tony Bullard
05/15/09

@mxpx5678: "Most people" haven't taken the time to really compare mp3 players. If you spent a week with both an iPod and a Zune, you'd see they're both very strong mp3 players, and both have advantages over the other. But most people don't know that. They "prefer" the iPod only because it's the more popular player, so they assume it's better.

And considering both players use music as their main use, the pricing plan of said music is a pretty important feature to differentiate on. If you could buy a car that got more gas for cheaper than other cars, would you get it?
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efenili
05/15/09

In reply to New Zune Ad Obliterated Because, You Know, It's Stupid
From the Zune Site

"Discover millions, keep 10

With a monthly Zune Pass music subscription, you can download millions of tracks from Zune Marketplace* for the price of one CD a month ($14.99). Play them whenever you want on up to three computers and three players, for as long as you keep your subscription up to date. You also get to keep 10 of your favorite songs each month to add to your permanent collection. That's $10 worth of songs you know you already love."
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vinnyr
05/15/09

@efenili: Hum.... itunes: 99Cents per song,

Zunepass: $15 for 10 songs. You do the math, which one is cheaper. Windows fanboy. Btw hows dem virus's treating ya.
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Kaiser-Machead
05/15/09

@vinnyr: The value of subscription vs. pay-to-own really depends on your dabbling habits. I personally have no interest in a subscription. I'd rather just stream from Pandora for free. It has its limitations compared to a full on subscription plan to ZMP, but it's still $0, except for the cost of my ever valuable internet connection.

I can see the value it holds for some, but it's just not my cup of tea. Far be it from me to decide that it's not worth it to everyone.
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efenili
05/15/09

In reply to New Zune Ad Obliterated Because, You Know, It's Stupid
I always thought that you were allowed to keep 10 songs a month permanently ? Did I miss something?

[www.zune.net]

Is everyone just deciding to ignore this fact? So technically even if you cancel your Zune pass you get to keep 10 a month or 120 songs a year forever? Or is that wrong??
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rip
05/15/09

@efenili: Correct. But if you ever cancel, or if Microsoft pulls the plug, you have essentially paid $1.50 for each of those songs. Or $45,000 to fill an iPod, in Zune marketingspeak.
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roflwaffles is actually a Spesh Mareen
05/15/09

@rip:

But you would have had access to unlimited songs during that period of time it took to fill the ipod up, wouldn't you?
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madog
05/15/09

@roflwaffles learned to update his screen name: If you quit the service you only get to keep the 10 free songs a month you get. That's where his figures come in.
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Justinpaulson
05/15/09

In reply to New Zune Ad Obliterated Because, You Know, It's Stupid
Honestly though, name one person you know that has an iPod and hasn't spent as much as a nice car loading it up with songs? I don't know a single person.

Really though, does anyone even HAVE 30,000 songs on their iPod?
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Kaiser-Machead
05/15/09

@Justinpaulson: I couldn't say how much I spent on the music my iPod currently has, but I'm sure it's a lot. Doesn't matter, as this amount was spread over many months, and is pretty much of zero impact since I have a steady income to keep paying for it.
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Kaiser-Machead
05/15/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Well, not zero impact, but not nearly as much as my other luxury items would.
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Nick
05/15/09

In reply to New Zune Ad Obliterated Because, You Know, It's Stupid
can we stop using the word douche?

/sarcasm
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MrBlahBlah
11/23/08

In reply to How I Plan to Taste Music
I would really love to use the ZunePass service. I really would. But I just can't get myself to do it. It's not even the PC only thing becuase I can install XP via bootcamp or parallels, although that is seriously annoying.

It's just that I can't go back to carrying two devicies around with me anymore (phone + mp3 player). I have been hooked on the convenience that the iPhone affords me - I always have my music with me. So until apple finally gets on the subscription train, I will be forever jealous of zunepass capability and be cursing steve jobs.
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frigg
11/20/08

In reply to How I Plan to Taste Music
Awesome idea. Seems like a way to make subscriptions palatable until the day that music becomes taxed (but otherwise "free") at the ISP.
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Ken_Darrow
11/20/08

In reply to How I Plan to Taste Music
Goodbye iTunes and iPod. Looks like MS figured out how to beat it. How the got the music labels/cartels to agree with this would make an interesting read.
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OMG! Ponies!
11/20/08

@Ken_Darrow: It's not about providing features that the leader has; it's about providing features that the leader doesn't have.

People buy iPods because they want iPods, not just mp3 players. People are starting to buy Zunes because they want a subscription plan and an iPod can't give that to them.
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EBone
11/20/08

In reply to How I Plan to Taste Music
I run Vista on BootCamp on my MBP, and have refurbished Zune I bought for cheap that I connect to it. I tried the free three weeks of the subscription service Zune offers and liked it, but couldn't justify the $15/month. Now it's definitely worth it.

Anyone thinking about it, get the Zune 120 GB model. With an all-you-can-eat service plan, you can fill it up really quickly.
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shalegac
11/20/08

In reply to Zune Pass Subscription Service Adds Ten Free Keeper Tracks a Month
My ex-girlfriend tried to tell me a few months ago that the Killers were "way better than the Beastie Boys"...... Ex-girlfriend.

Just had to share that after looking at that pic. I'll never forget that everytime I hear the killers or see them.
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Islandkiwi
11/20/08

@shalegac:

You did the right thing.
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