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Hmmm...at least I'm not hiding behind an anonymous tag, or name-calling.</p>
<p> Since you didn't get my analogy, let me explain it for you.  A chemist
or a physicist might know all about the atoms in a molecule from memory -
a layman would not.  This does not mean the atoms don't exist.  Just like
a layman might not be able to recite frivolous lawsuits from memory.  That
does not mean such lawsuits don't exist or are not frivilous.  Get it?</p>
<p> Side note: I'm still on the fence about the McDonald's case.  I am sad
for Stella's injury, sure, but no one at McDonald's poured it in her lap
- that was an accident, see?  If she had just bought a knife and dropped
that in her lap and severed an artery, would the knife company be liable?
 Of course not.  Was the top on the cup defective?  Well, no - she purposefully
removed it, with the cup (which I'm sure was noticably hot even from the
outside) suspended dangerously over her tender bits.  Yes, 700+ other people
had similar accidents, among *millions* of McDonald's customers.  McDonald's
didn't pour the coffee on them, either.</p>
<p>
Three of the five of the cases I mentioned were from Snopes, which *you* gave the link for, but whatever:<br>
Marlboro case - <a href="http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/marlboro.htm">http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/marlboro.htm</a><br>
Ultima Online case - <a href="http://pc.ign.com/articles/066/066277p1.html">http://pc.ign.com/articles/066/066277p1.html</a><br>
Netflix case - <a href="http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/netflix.asp">http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/netflix.asp</a><br>
Golf tee case - <a href="http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/golftee.asp">http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/golftee.asp</a><br>
iPod case - <a href="http://www.ipodobserver.com/story/24424">http://www.ipodobserver.com/story/24424</a></p>
<p>
Here's a few more examples of frivolous suits - with links - that I'll throw in for no extra charge:<br>
<a href="http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/40daysand40nights/100.html">http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/40daysand40nights/100.html&lt;...</a><br>
<a href="http://www.lawcore.com/legal-information/04-18-06.html">http://www.lawcore.com/legal-information/04-18-06.html</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ferrago.com/portal/click/?id=59690">http://www.ferrago.com/portal/click/?id=59690</a><br>
<a href="http://promomagazine.com/news/bkfrancisees_lawsuit2_091305/index.html">http://promomagazine.com/news/bkfrancisees_lawsuit2_091305...</a><br>
<a href="http://members.fortunecity.com/iandavies/262.htm">http://members.fortunecity.com/iandavies/262.htm</a><br>
<a href="http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/11546547725210.xml&amp;coll=7">http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/n...</a><br>
<a href="http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_226195718.html">http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_226195718.html</a><br>
<a href="http://www.spokesmanreview.com/local/story.asp?ID=83597">http://www.spokesmanreview.com/local/story.asp?ID=83597</a><br>
<a href="http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_070606_news_jordan_lookalike.314c6e50.html">http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_070606_news_jord...</a><br>
<a href="http://spartacus.blogs.com/spartacus/2005/08/rock_climbing_o.html">http://spartacus.blogs.com/spartacus/2005/08/rock_climbing...</a></p>
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So...what am I leaving out?  Which facts am I twisting?</p>
<p> Also, speaking of links...where's the links for the tobacco company malfeasance?
 Is the malfeasance the direct cause of the health issues, or does it perhaps
merit a separate suit?</p>
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</p> <p>CptMystic</p>]]></description>
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Steve Coalier:  WTF?  who the hell mentioned atoms &amp; molecules??  and, if those suits you've mentioned have any merit or not, why didn't you link them?  I'm not going to bother looking, provide links.</p>
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and you forget about the malfeasance of the tobacco companies that led to all them multi-billion dollar judgements, dude.  </p>
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Shorter Steve Coalier:  "I'm an idiot".</p> <p>doofusgumby</p>]]></description>
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doofusgumby - <br> So, because I can't think of the conifiguration of
atoms in any molecules, does that mean they don't exist?  Does you or anyone
else *saying* there's no such thing as a frivolous lawsuit make it true?
 Do you seriously believe no one ever commits fraud in cases like this? 
If so, I have a bowl of Wendy's chili for you.</p>
<p>
After about a half hour of net research (and recalling from personal memory), here are a few that I think of as frivolous:<br>
- the iPod battery lawsuit (now I'm going to have a plethora of Apple fanboys come down on my head)<br> 
- Any of the lawsuits against game companies because their software doesn't
run 100% perfect, under any and all conditions (particularly suits by users
who continue to play the games anyway)<br> 
- The class action suit against Netflix (from the Snopes legal section)...I'm
a Netflix subscriber, and if I feel impacted by their behavior, I will not
sue them - I will CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION.  This is how a free market economy
works.  Vote with your dollars, people.<br> 
- The wrongful death case of the golfer's estate against Diamond Shamrock
Chemical Company (again from Snopes, thanks for the reminder about it as
a source).  Moral of the story: don't put stuff in your mouth that isn't
meant to be there.  Golf tees are not candy.<br> 
- Class action and other suits against tobacco companies for the health hazards
of smoking (like the one from the Marlboro man, also noted on Snopes).  Now,
I am avidly anti-smoking (in fact, smoking arguably killed both my mother
and her mother), but it has been fairly well known for DECADES that smoking
is bad for your health.  Every package of cigarettes is clearly labeled,
denoting the link between smoking and its associated health hazards.  People
smoke anyway (and, I'm afraid, always will).  No one is *forced* to smoke,
however.</p>
<p> Now of course, I don't know whether this guy's claim is true or not.
 If a Dell laptop battery really burned the guy's house down, he *may* have
a case (I say may because it may be possible - you must admit - that he purposefully
constructed the scenario after hearing about the defective batteries, since
that story has been all over the news).  Net result is that this one's not
a frivolous suit in any case - it's either legitimate, or it's fraud.<br>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Maybe I don't know all the facts, but it sounds like she wanted to put cremer/sugar/whatever in her coffee while in the car. Sounds like negligence on her part, hot coffee or not.</P> <p>kmanfactor</p>]]></description>
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jeffj-nj - yeah, the "tort reformers" can't point to any real cases of abuse so they twist the facts, or leave out the important bits.  Or just keep re-forwarding all them fictitious lawsuit stories like the one about the old lady who confused "cruise control" with "autopilot" on her new winnebago. (see <a href="http://www.snopes.com">http://www.snopes.com</a> legal section.  very funny stuff)</p> <p>doofusgumby</p>]]></description>
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Maybe it was his iScorch that did it?</P>
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www.iScorch.com</P>
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happyapple</P> <p><a href="http://www.iscorch.com">HappyApple</a></p>]]></description>
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I almost have to wonder if people mention the McDonald's coffee thing
just to annoy me personally. Thanks to those of you who let me know I'm
not alone, and especially to you, doofusgumby, for trying to spread the
facts; it's an uphill battle, though... you know that, don't you? For
every one person out there with a clue about that case, there's
probably a dozen or so without. Sigh. It's like everyone forgets we
have juries. 12 people decided that outcome. Can we consider, just for
a moment, that those people might've had more info than the rest of us?
=/</p> <p>jeffj-nj</p>]]></description>
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Thank you doofusgumby... was just heading out for the same data.</P>
<P>
So tired of that case being trotted out as an example of frivolous lawsuits.</P> <p><a href="http://toastradio.com/">someToast</a></p>]]></description>
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Wow, love to read all the shallow, judgemental comments. So droll.</p>
<p>
Yes, people in small houses don't own computers. Only people in big, fancy houses own computers.</p>
<p>
Hmmn, I wonder what kind of effort and incentives it takes to make it so laptop batteries stop having serious problems.</p>
<p>
I say we let manufacturers shovel out whatever sh*t they have lying around that can make a buck, and if someone happens upon something defective, it must be their fault! Yee-haww.</p>
<p>
Anyway, thanks guys for adding those facts about the McDonalds case, maybe some people will start to think there's more than one way to look at a story.</p> <p><a href="http://zooid.org">davidm</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>It was in the 1200 Sqft mudroom, south wall of course doesn't everybody?</P> <p>Saboteur</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>in which room of this elegant abode do we think he stored 800+ DVDs - the library, the theater or the den?<BR></P> <p>mtopper</p>]]></description>
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I'm not saying the story doesn't sound fishy, but when someone owns that many DVDs it seems likely that he's a collector. Those tend to care alot about their collections and spend considerable time organizing them - thus it's MORE likely that someone with 800+ DVDs knows the exact number than someone with 30.</P> <p>sdfjkl</p>]]></description>
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That does sound a little opportunistic.</p>
<p>
But McDonalds coffee really is hot:</p>
<p>
"By corporate specifications, McDonald's sells its coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit;"</p>
<p>
"During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims<br>
involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of this hazard."</p>
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<a href="http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm">http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm</a><br>
<a href="http://www.centerjd.org/free/mythbusters-free/MB_mcdonalds.htm">http://www.centerjd.org/free/mythbusters-free/MB_mcdonalds...</a></p> <p><a href="http://my.IS">dune</a></p>]]></description>
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lol @ nzruss and njbrideau</p>
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*high five*</p> <p>rainfever</p>]]></description>
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by the looks of that house, this guy had all his assets tied up in those 843 DVDs.</p> <p><a href="http://njbrideau.net">njbrideau</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Some of the whackiest lawsuits ever</P>
<P><A href="http://www.duhaime.org/Law_fun/lawsuit.aspx">http://www.duhaime.org/Law_fun/lawsuit.aspx</A></P> <p><a href="http://www.newlaunches.com">masteryoda</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Lol this was bound to happen and we have another crazy million dollar lawsuit</P> <p><a href="http://www.newlaunches.com">masteryoda</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>cant wait to see how this is gonna turn out.. what this jack ass dosent realize is after an investigation it will pinpoint the cause of the fire and that poured gas all over his dell laptop</P> <p>detroityianni</p>]]></description>
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<a href="http://www.aaacablimo.com/Cattle-grazing.jpg">This</a> was the house before the fire... note the cattle as Combat chuck quite correctly pointed out.  </p> <p><a href="http://www.nzruss.blogspot.com">nzruss</a></p>]]></description>
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Judging by the look of the house, I highly doubt this guy had a laptop of any kind. I live in Florida, and houses like this one typically only contain small livestock, stray cats, a rusty mimeograph machine, and maybe an alligator. </p> <p>combat chuck</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>No doubt his Rembrandt, Picasso and large collection of Faberge eggs were lost in the fire too.</P> <p>ReductiMat</p>]]></description>
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JEEBUS.  "These exploding Dell laptop batteries are becoming the new McDonalds hot coffee"  The uninformed assumptions of the masses.  GAH!</p>
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"Stella Liebeck had bought a 49-cent cup of coffee at the drive-in window of an Albuquerque McDonald's, and while removing the lid to add cream and sugar had spilled it, causing third-degree burns of the groin, inner thighs and buttocks. Her suit, filed in state court in Albuquerque, claimed the coffee was "defective" because it was so hot.</p>
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What the jury didn't realize initially was the severity of her burns. Told during the trial of Mrs. Liebeck's seven days in the hospital and her skin grafts, and shown gruesome photographs, jurors began taking the matter more seriously. "It made me come home and tell my wife and daughters don't drink coffee in the car, at least not hot," says juror Jack Elliott.</p>
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Even more eye-opening was the revelation that McDonald's had seen such injuries many times before. Company documents showed that in the past decade McDonald's had received at least 700 reports of coffee burns ranging from mild to third degree, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000.</p>
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Some observers wonder why McDonald's, after years of settling coffee-burn cases, chose to take this one to trial. After all, the plaintiff was a sympathetic figure - an articulate, 81-year-old former department store clerk who said under oath that she had never filed suit before. In fact, she said, she never would have filed this one if McDonald's hadn't dismissed her requests for compensation for pain and medical bills with an offer of $800."</p>
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Nice continuation of the neocon "tort reform" agenda there, Travis.</p>
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<a href="http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm">http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm</a> </p> <p>doofusgumby</p>]]></description>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Man Blames Dell Laptop for House Fire]]></title>
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<i>Holy damn, who knows exactly how many DVDs you own, especially if it is over 800. Something seems a little fishy about this story.</i></p>
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Well I dunno, I have 1269 DVD's.  Or were we not counting porn?</p> <p>rainfever</p>]]></description>
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