willybaseball2007

willybaseball2007

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Dave D.

In contrast, the Canon and Epson cartridges normally do NOT have a printhead built in, and most have new, generic ink cartridges available now. I personally like my Canon S500 from a few years back, as I can get those simple ink tanks (no print head!) for a few dollars each. AND I can replace the colors that have run low individually! With an HP COLOR ink cartridge, when one color is low, the whole cartridge is useless!

For more information on quality compatible inks and toner cartridges, visit http://www.tonerall.com/printer-ink.html

Dave D.

Went to the printer section the cost of HP cartridge $25. Cost of new HP printer was less than $50. (comes with black and color cartridges).
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I remember one year HP made some huge chunk of their profits from just printer cartridges.

goo321

myxklptk

myxklptk

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/store_access.do...

Hal

hawdong

johnus0

The cartridges are pricier, but last so much longer. We're still on our half-full starter cartridge (full cartridge - 2500 pages), 4+ reams of paper later. The toner doesn't dry out or get clogged, and modern printers are fairly good at avoiding paper jams and such.

Laser printers are the perfect example of "pay now, or pay later". A laser printer and a new toner cartridge is cheaper than an inkjet probably within a year or two of printing.

Worf

Screw ink jets. Laser printers are FAR superior in quality, cost, and print speed.

robo

There is of course a fair amount of mark-up, as everyone here pointed out (see Lexmark vs. Static Control), but that $30 is buying you the ink AND the inkjet head. On HP printers the head is built into the cartridge. The inkjet head is a complex little bugger to make.

I'm not saying that these cartridges are cheap, but this comparison is akin to saying "My new car came with a full tank of gas cost $30k, so gas costs $30k/15 gallons = $2k/gallon."

wikkit

Jason R

windrush1

Any question that starts 'why do they' or 'why don't they' is always answered by 'money'. 'They' don't make a good printer because it costs more. People need printers and will continue to buy crap ones for the same price because there's no replacement for it.

I had an HP Laserjet Series II, two feet square and almost a foot tall, that felt like it was hewn from a solid block of steel. I got it for 20$ on Ebay; it cost more to ship (Lots more. I'm not kidding about the weight). I had it for around 6 years, and it was old when I got it...I finally gave it away when it needed the paper pickup roller replaced (I think it fossilized...) and I got an HP laserjet 4 for free...That lasted a couple of years, and now needs a motor replaced. The whole thing is modular, will take me about 20 minutes to do, once I get around to digging it out from under the crap on my desk.

Part of the crap is a Lexmark all in one copier/printer/fax/scanner/ toaster/carwash/dessert polish/floor wax monstrosity that lasted less than two months, bought brand new. It either picks up no paper at all or all of it at once, nothing between.

I prefer my elderly printers to this new thing...they cost less (even buying toner carts with it) and last a hell of a lot longer.

StarChaser Tyger

Regarding cost-per-ml, please note that in typical usage (less than 100 pages-per-month) some Epson printers get only half as many pages-per-ml as some HPs -- cost-per-print at your usage level is the more meaningful metric.

Regarding the "cheapness" of printers, not that those designed to print a million pages-per-month cost a good fraction of a million $$, but a lot less per-print.

Regarding where to get lower cost inkjet prints, take a look at the HP K550 -- a "business" inkjet that costs less per print than personal/small business lasers.

BTW, would you use 3rd-party blood in your body (if it was cheaper)?

InkRealist

I thought it would be the opposite but the ChromaLife 100 8M (Magenta) CLI-8M for the Pixma iP4200 & MP500 series of printers cost me $16.25 (we'll forget the tax) @ Staples (where they stopped giving back $3.00 for Canon & Epson carts. btw - HT, Dell *!?* and LexMark only nowadays) for a 13ml tank.

So Let's see 13ml for $16.25 - That's $1.25 per ml!! I can't find replacement carts. for this model yet (it's been a year already! - nobody on dealink.com seems to make 3rd party carts. for this model)

HP ink is almost a bargain... I suppose we're all getting screwed.

Jealous_of_Epson740-ppl

Nah, you're priceless already! :)

dmirtic

kyel

What infuriates me is the cheapness of most printers... I say most due to my limited exposure. When I bought an iBook 5 years ago, it came with a free (after $100 mail in rebate that was never mailed in) epson printer. I printed with it for about 3 months, then it started putting lines through everything, and cleaning the heads using the software for the printer didn't fix it. At the time I was trying to print an essay for a class that was due in 15 minutes, so I promptly kicked the printer across my dorm room, shattering it, and ran to the computer lab.
Now where I work we have older lexmark laser printer's (real pieces of garbage). And also HP's 4000's 4100's 4250's and various new color printers. And the HP's are pretty junky in my opinion too... all the internal gears are plastic, they are constantly in need of repair... the color printers were get have the most convoluted toner carosel designs I've ever seen in my life (dont' know model numbers, but one has them all in a line, and the flip out on this thing when you open the front of the printer, and another model has them chambered like a revolver would bullets...). They just all feel so cheesy... for what these printers cost why doesn't someone make a nice product? Addmittedly my experience is limited, but is there something good out there? I'm just always blown away at the price of these things when you look at the internals. Maybe I'm just not buying quality printers and that could be, I'm just curious who makes a quality printer? Canon?

djdare

jakesolo

RedBull

I bought a Brother laser printer HL-1440 for about $ 100 a year ago, and the high yied cartridge TN 460 runs about about 6,000 pages at cost of $ 60...

Last year Business Week had a graphic which showed HP ink was more than Chanel No 5 and 1990 Dom Perignon on an ounce price comparison

vmirchan

bored_techie

Jason

masteryoda

J-von

Snazlewax

xerox

Does this mean it's going to cost $30 for every 10 pages?

HP I think you know where you can stick it. Thank god for refill shops and avoid HP!

ej00807

Obee Juan

Obee Juan

For comparison, common HP cartridges are 19ml and cost the same price. I think there's a definite correlation between the original cost of the printer ($4000, in my case) and the cost of refills. We have a stack of cheap inkjets at the office from Dell and HP that were cheaper to replace than to refill

TorkLugnutz

bobby-wheelock

Zamemee

Paul D

Ahh, an optimist :D

/they're half empty
/how much of the cost of a cartridge is because of the electronics that are included on the cartridges now

lordargent

Rask

When you run out of ink, throw out the printer. Go over to Target, buy a new printer (which has a new cartridge conveniently included). Voila, new printer AND ink cartridge for less than the price of a refill.

Old No.7

spenc938

Rask

Word of advice, most of the ink cartidges/etc are made by a select few and than sold to Canon/Epson/HP and they brand them. By Generic, they are identical for the most part.

My family's company makes all the Office Depot and Office Max generics, and we use the same materials and everything for the brand name stuff.

calisurfer923

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Also what vodka did you use for reference... are we talking Stoli or 5 o'clock. Cuz 5 o'clock will give the price of gasoline a run for it's money.

djdare

aR-Tard

idoru

rockboy04

shawnj

quitebuttery

http://www.cockeyed.com/science/gallon/liquid.html

Autonomous2323

News you can use.

cmarsh

Is it wrong that the first thing I thought was "how much is semen worth?"

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swooshdave