jmbtron

I have had a little success in copying a file to a network share that is mapped to my Vista workstation. Sometimes it fails, I get the message that it is computing the time to copy for a 49.5kb folder and then decide to cancel because nothing is happening. Selecting cancel on the file copy does nothing. The box gets a little gray but it doesn't cancel. I usually have to kill the connection with task manager and hit end task several times.

On the upside sometimes rebooting my workstation will allow copying for a few minutes. What a POS.

MS has a hotfix that might correct the problem, but it hasn't been totally regression tested so it isn't available to the public yet. I submitted a request to get it and have received it, but it has't been installed. I don't have much hope this this will correct the problem.

I can't believe that they released this to the world and you can't even do a simple file copy.

What were they thinking?

VistaSucks

A lot of those who bitch and moan about Vista are the same folks who got all pissy when XP was released. It was too complicated,too flashy,too secure it did not fit in to thier simple little 98/ME world! Grow up geeks sure there is a lot of needless GUI but since when has Windows not promoted that?

AmericanNightmare

Anyways what I wanted to say is that I'm most likely an average user, with perhaps a bit more knowledge then most. I use my system for my business, to surf the net, play games..I even know better then to call tech support for anything, except as a very last resort.

For me XP is fine, my system is new enough to support Vista but do I really need anything that's offered? Okay I hear it looks flashier and is safer but I've not had a problem with my system in years; vis-a-vis viruses, spyware etc..
So why would I want to fork out my hard earned money for something I don't need? I'm sure when I get around to buying a new system I'll upgrade then but I see no need to rush out and so so now.

damon2

mike8301

Bobj261

Prophecychotek

then you will love this program..on the other hand I literally bore the cost, threw it away and had 2003 put back on the PC blacksheep in our office.

Gizmeaux

eclectician

You can read and freely distribute my article at http://magicpowermemory.com/Articles/VistaRoadmap.pdf

ChairmanMatt

What about an easy way to resize a picture right from Finder? Is there a way? Or do I have to use iPhoto or Aperture to resize when I export?

There's this nice powertoy that one can get from M$ (for fee none-the-less) that allows you to resize a bunch of pictures at a time by selecting all of the files, right-clicking, then selecting resize. That simple. I haven't been able to find this in OS X. If any of you can refer me to a special command or a widget then that would be wonderful. Either way, this is an old post so if I don't get an answer then that's cool.

apeguero

Richardb001

ebernet

miked189

Many of us know that gamers drive sales and they are a vocal lot. If you fail to please gamers, your stuff won't fly. Look at AMD. They made a solid processor starting with the Athlon line that out performed Intel CPUs any day of the week (until recently with the Core 2 CPUs). That achievement alone, to take a huge chunk out of Intel, is impressive and they did that by impressing gamers.

Another note is application compatibility. When XP came out, the compatibility issue was not that bad because I was involved in system rollouts at my company. Sure, some apps didn't work, mainly that was due to some obscure program that didn't exist anymore. Yet this time around, Vista has many people scared.

I work in the dental industry as an IT Integrator for dentists. The dental software that is out there now is NOT compatible with Vista as they require precise timings and unfettered access to system resources. Our initial tests with Vista required us to produce PCs that are so expensive, they would be cost prohibitive to dentists. On a whole, we will not sell Vista with any PC we produce nor will we suggest it to anyone. We also refuse to offer support on it as it has been a major cow to deal with.

makatsuta

You expect this majority of people, many of which might be buying their very first pc's-- to effectively navigate the open ended canyons and command line interfaces of a Linux Distibution? Yeah, ok... so you walk into a store and see a GREAT pc you REALLY like... but it comes with Fedora. You don't like Fedora, you like Ubuntu. But ubuntu is only on this other machine with really shitty specs. So you are stuck. So you can download linux, you say? OH WOW! That's what millions do already you lame-ass, so why are you whining about Windows which effectively keeps computer hardware prices LOW because of STANDARDIZING the computer landscape so much that nearly every business, school, house, etc. has had or will have a PC inside of it.

You think PC hardware would be so low if people didn't have a general knowledge of the operating system they would be using upon arriving home? You think Apple will ever ship their hardware with Linux as an option?

Eventually Vista will make its way into many places... but people will still have the choice to use Linux. If they have never heard of Linux... then good! They will use their PC to go on MySpace and look at porn and really DO NOT GIVE A F*ck ABOUT the operating system they're using.

Apple thrives by tying their hardware directly to a SINGLE operating system. There are over 100 names at distrowatch.com to choose from in terms of 'linux'. I really just want... something... that is supported by great software companies like Apple, Adobe, and even the open source community themselves. AKA: Windows. So face it, all of you: MSFT will reign its empire for YEARS to come because they smashed into the biggest pile of effing LUCK in the history of commerce and because they know BUSINESS.

Over and out. By the way: I'm sure if Ubuntu was on every PC in the world a lot of people would be pointing out its tiny little flaws and saying its shitty compared to Gentoo or whatever the hell they like.

fredlee24

PRRawlins

Thanks for the suggestions TofuFactory. I'll try that.

apeguero

Hold down the Option key when you reboot. You should get the options for OS X, the install CD, and the Windows Partition. Take your pick (OS X more than likely) and you're all set.

apeguero

Doubtful. They work on XP just fine. I expect them to work on Vista the same way without going through a gazzillion more steps.

It's a microsoft problem.

diverguy

Any ideas?

yoshi

You've convinced me to do it. I am actually doing it now but I am installing XP (old copy).

I know what you mean about the mouse usability. I go to the iMac and start typing and moving the mouse. I look like I haven't used a computer before. =0}

I will let you guys know how it goes. So far, it's flawless.

yoshi

The bluetooth keyboard and mouse actually work well in Vista. If you dont get a cramped hand while using it (lol). My hands a little deformed at this point from cupping the mighty mouse but i dig it.

TheTofuFactory

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

I have not tried boot camp but I am tempted to with the new version that was just released. I've read that if you have bootcamp installed, it will upgrade without affecting the current install.

I am trying to get my wife used to OS X before putting Windows on her iMac. I really want to install it because if it works well, my next PC maybe an iMac. I am hoping they release a black one cause you know what they say....

how does Apple's bluetooth keyboard and mouse work in Vista? I used to run in XP with a program called Apple mouse so I could simulate a 2 button mouse.

yoshi

To answer your screen capture question, yes Mac OSX has that feature. You have two options. You can capture a full screen shot (if you have dual monitors it will put 2 png files of each screen for you on your desktop) or you can do a select area screen shot. Its actually a great feature as I use it all the time in the design field i work in to send previews to clients.

Key Commands are as follows:

Apple + Shift + 3 (number 3 key) = Full screen capture

Apple + Shift + 4 (drag the mouse over the area you want after hitting this) = Selected area capture.

Hope this helped you :)

TheTofuFactory

On a personal note, I held off for a couple of months before installing VistaA. I had the upgrade CD, just never installed it....Damn you Nvidia! The day I finally got driver support, I installed Vista and haven't looked back since. I'm still starting to explore its features, but so far it's been somewhat remarkable. To my surprise, it runs faster than XP. (I kept my computer fairly clean, so bloat in my XP installation should've been minimal.)

I agree with yoshi, in that I think that people bashing Vista simply haven't really sat down and given it any serious use.

=|

theNEOone

It's only the small, early adopter crowd that buys new hardware strictly for an OS. The majority of consumer segment wait until they need a computer then use whatever OS it comes pre-installed with.

If the hardware makers want to blame anyone for slow sales they should look at themselves. Mediocre hardware design, lukewarm support, not too much innovation. I'm suprised that a majority of desktop machines are still fugly boxes that everyone trys to find a reason to hide. Except for a few exceptions computer makers still haven't gotten that we are over the "Wow, it's a calculating wonder!" and now want some fashion to go with our function.

SimianJones

Have you updated Boot Camp on your Mac? I used to hate having to keep changing the clock every time I booted into Vista with Boot Camp. The new version has fixed that. My Vista install rocks in my Mac Pro.

The permissions thing is there for safety, just like in Mac OS X. Except that it's more bitchy in Vista. But that could be turned off in the Control Panel. This was the first thing I did.

Now, one thing I wish OS X did better is Finder. Honestly, as much as I'm loving my OS X experience, I just can't place Finder in the same league as Explorer.

Also, did you all know that Vista has a built in utility that allows you to grab a portion of a screen into the memory buffer? I used to have to use Alt-Print Screen for this and then paste the image to Paint or something and then edit the image. Now all I have to do is right click and select the option to select what part of the screen I want to capture. This puts Snagg It out of business :) Does OS X offer this?

Also, can someone tell me an easy way for me to resize a picture in OS X without having to open iPhoto or Aperture, etc? With Windows, just right click and select resize.

Small stuff like this is what I'm really hoping Leopard will bring. I better stop now because I'm starting to compare Vista and OS X when all I really wanted to do is tell people that Vista is a lot better then it's being made out to be.

apeguero

Could this be an effort by MS to give people a reason to move away from XP and to the latest and greatest?

johnboy70

It's actually not bad if you're familiar with it, but it's just that there are lots more people with low-budget boxes that can't handle it, and don't want to invest in all new systems at the moment so of course adoption will be slow. No matter, it's not like Microsoft is in trouble or anything.

The Vista experience is pretty much XP with a glassy wrapping all over everything with some snazzy little animation here and there. I don't know why people were psyched about Aero. It, quite simply, sucks. Period. It's mostly for show, but doesn't really speed up finding my windows. Expose is far simpler, though not as pretty. Everything else seems to be a nice step up from XP, especially the search function. The gadgets aren't my cup o' tea, but that's easily rectified.

Being a recent switcher from windows 95-XP, I won't get lost in Vista. But after using OS X for a while, I'm going to have to choose the latter instead.

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b...

yoshi

Sounds like developer problem.

You need to consult MSDN to set your permissions correctly. Let me know if you need the link. Are you programming in .NET?

yoshi

dweezilb

pencilpadded

I really do dislike vista.

And if for no other reason that the damn dialog boxes asking me if I really want to do something, or if I think it's really a good idea to run an application I WROTE!, or I don't have permissions (I installed the bloody OS.. how do I know have permissions?), etc... you've heard them all before.

Now it does have some nice points, but generally, I much prefer XP.

diverguy

Personally, I think it's the media spin. People bashing Vista are the ones that don't own or use it. My experience with Vista has been rock solid too. You hear people complain that certain software doesn't run on Vista but those of us that run it know that Vista has backward compatibility support (Compatibility Wizard).

Keep in mind, this is coming from someone that owns a new 24" iMac, 12" iBook, and Mac Mini.

In some respects, Mac OS X doesn't even compare to Vista.

yoshi

axiomatic

Damn man! You reminded me of what I went through trying to adapt to the changes Windows 95 brought in from the old Windows 3.1 or 3.11. I used to think that Explorer would never replace File Manager. I used to hate Explorer too.

Other than people just being trolls or MS bashers, I really don't see what their beef is. Like I said above, my Vista experience so far has been rock solid. It runs MS FSX, Wings over Vietnam/Europe, LOMAC, GT2, plus some other games really well. Some of the problems that I have encountered so far have been syncing up my WM6 phone (Cingular 8525) since I ran into some issues syncing it in Vista, and also that I have to run my Saitek X52 Pro joystick programming software in XP because it won't work in Vista. This is why my Parallels install uses XP Pro. But otherwise, I actually like Vista and don't see what the big deal is. Well, other than the $300.00 price for Ultimate, yeah, that's kind of a big one I guess. But I can't complain since my Vista Ultimate was free.

apeguero

If you ever decided to upgrade to Vista, www.NewEgg.com sells the Vista Ultimate OEM version for $199.

I bought it and installed it on my 2 1/2 year old Dell Precision laptop. As Tony the Tiger would say, It's GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!

yoshi

olegna

I find it hard to believe that you didn't sell your Microsoft shares when they hit $31.50 back in Janaury?

I did. =0}

yoshi

Same story on NT 3.51 to NT 4, and from Windows 2000 to XP.

This is no different, people just don't like change.

You can argue all you like about how Vista is all eye candy and nothing else, but anyone that says that has obviously not used Vista properly.

If you say you have, then you don't understand what you are looking at. If you say you do, then you're mistaken.

The only advantage other than familiarity that XP now has is the driver support. But surely it's not Microsoft's responsibility to provide these, so blame your hardware vendor, not my buddy Bill.

Yours sincerely,

Bill's biatch

AlanJC

gadjitfreek

Sorry Jesus but I had to do it. HA, HA, HA!!!

yoshi

Oh, that includes me. Bwaaah.

tundraboy

I think Vista will suffer the same growing pains that XP Pro suffered with Windows 2000. It will take time for people to accept it as XP's replacement. Some other people out there will never change though. Believe it or not, there are people still running Windows 98, or even Win95. Some people just don't give a F. All they care about is that they'll be able to access their My Space account or that MS Word 95 doesn't crash.

Whenever they see Vista they see having to learn a new OS that may not run well on their outdated machine. Then they hear that it won't necessarily run their library of outdated software either. Not to enticing. This, I believe, is the same reason why a lot of people have stuck to iPods for so long. Why switch products when I have already invested so much time and money on songs from iTunes? Well, I don't know about the money part but damn, my iTunes library is so well organized, why fuck with it just so I can try out someone elses MP3 player. You get my point?

apeguero

SowndOfDeth

im_here_for_the_food

hubfam

Being a writer here, I can assure you that we don't give a damn about Apple or Microsoft or whatever other manufacturer out there. We hate and love them all the same.

Except Sony and Nintendo.

We love them so much we put them in our pants.

Some of us, anyway.

OK, just Jason.

That said, I am the writer of the post and there's no possible spin for it: simply, it's BAD news for Microsoft and the industry. Quite serious, if you ask me, because it could mean a setback for many companies, which were banking on the projected growth of Vista to drive their results for 2007.

Now, that's not going to happen.

Finally, and once again, the link for the quotes is in the post. Click, read the article (which is good info in a reputable newspaper) and check it out.

Thanks for reading.

Jesus Diaz

werk

If you've been around this website for any length of time, they are pro Apple. Plus, they are sponsered by Apple.

They make it a point to bash Microsoft 2-3 times a week. If you don't believe us, just look at all the Microsoft posts. Even the positive news has negative spin on it from Gizmodo.

Personally, I think they do it on purpose to get all the MS fanboys worked up BUT if they are going to quote someone, post the actual link of the source. They post links all the time so it should be no big deal.

yoshi

It's reality check time and it comes without aloe vera:

Fact A. MS cockily says Vista sold 20 million computers on its intro, which is double the XP units sold during its introduction in 2002.

Fact B. MS doesn't say how many of those are actual copies sold to customers and how many are bundled in new PCs.

Fact C. As Ars Technica pointed out, new PC sales in the same period have doubled since 2002, arguing that this clearly accounts for the double rate on Vista sales.

Fact D. However, one could argue that Vista is driving new PC purchases, even if that's extremely far-fetched looking at the PC sales growth curve from 2002.

Fact E. Big computer and component manufacturers say that this is not the case: Vista is not pushing sales, neither meeting expectations or making the industry grow.

Do the math.

@Yoshi and the other one:

Why is reporting on Vista failing to meet expectations at all levels pro-Apple? Should people stop reporting on things because they may damage or benefit someone?

The source link and quotes are clearly identify in the story.

Jesus Diaz

You will never get a link to verify what their saying is true.

yoshi

pacalis

JimByte

retiredhippie

Simple_thinking

The India Times is a major newspaper, why not link there?

bobvilla

bmoctta

i totally agree with PRRawlins in that MS sabotaged themselves by making a decent operating system in XP (decent enough that people didn't want to have to learn a completely new one).

One of the things i used to like about MS vs. Mac was that it was less "user friendly" but more usable. i was taught on MS-DOS back in the day, and i still to this day use the command prompt when i feel like i can't get something done that i want to. that being said, i've never been a big fan of the idea of trying to make the GUI look nicer at the expense of usability. i mean, might as well take away our second mouse button too, while they're at it.

bigbadjon

The State of Denmark is waxing odoriferous.

strider_mt2k

PRRawlins

brazil101

oh well.. Maybe next time around huh?

d_saum

GROW UP!

retiredhippie

That's what it boils down to.

strider_mt2k