Personally I found the best was voicethis. The first version didn't work so hot but they just updated it and it really kicks ass to the others now.

kooks518

ipod101

bottabing23

Everyone dissing the ipod? You probably havent used it. You are also living in your mom's basement at 35, and oh noone calls you anyway so shut it.

OK it doesnt have games. Im 34, even if it HAD games, I have a life and wouldnt use them.

GPS. Simple. Check out the Pocket PC. It does not have GPS, howerever, if you buy the "puck" from ATT and the service...it has GPS. That should shortly come out for the iPod as well.

IM. No there isnt but thats why we have text. But still just forward your AIM to your cell you can reply...its not an issue.

No pic sending. Um I am getting all the pics from my friends...it goes to ATTs website instead of text (although you get a text notification) login and you get the pic.

No ringtones? Look if thats what you want in a phone this one is way too advanced for you to understand...maybe you should go in the corner with a landline and think long and hard about what you just said.

No 3G...ok you have a point but EDGE is ok for what I need (and I am not easily pleased) plus itll hop on any open wi-fi and scream. It hops on my broadband at home and schools every other phone out there.

No actual keyboard. Dont want it dont need it. This touchscreen is insanely awesome, and whoever commented that it wasnt as cool as a Helio Ocean? Yeah I just paid $300 to get away from your "cool" little device.

So all you people out there complaining about the iphone...we know you dont have one. We know you're jealous. We know you live with your mom and the real issue with EDGE vs 3G is that you cant download porn while alone on a Saturday night fast enough.

Go play with your Commodore 64 and shut up.

nikkibossie

[fun4iPhone.co]

bvolk

Just so you know, any Windows Mobile GSM phone WILL work without a SIM. Maybe a piece of crap standard cell wont, but when they are PDA's they ALWAYS work, even if they are not being used as a phone.

@ every other fanboy:

Tell me what it DOES have that my piece of crap Audiovox 6600 doesn't. I have a large touch screen, that can play full screen videos. It can play music and use mp3's as rings. Browse the web, etc. It also has a slide out keyboard. There is a reason why BlackBerry's are so damn popular, hint: keyboard...

There are tonnes of other new WM phones that can do even more, so again WHAT DOES IT HAVE that the others don't? (Other then a high price)

ColdAsIce

No 3G EV-DO/HSDPA? How stupid is that? A phone with a killer browser crippled by EDGE. I love Apple, but that sucks! Blackjack has it, why not the iPhone?

I will wait until Apple releases a phone containing ALL current technology.

JtFreelancer

smegz

smegz

Nice use of sarcasm...couldn't have done it better myself.

smegz

@Photoman
You missed a few things from your 'doesn't have' list:

- Competition
What planet are you from? No competition for the iPhone? You mean there are no phones that have an integrated music player, video player, widescreen, and touchscreen with web access? None of that tech is new...it has plenty of competition and most of it at a lower price.
- That annoying WM feature where apps don't die and hog memory
Get the new WM5 ROM's...I hit X and the application closes. Plus, if your carrier doesn't support the newer ROM's there are apps that will handle this for you.
- Anything to do with MS
Can't really argue this point. MS is not the greatest out there and actually using a WM device can be far more frustrating than using a Windows computer.

smegz

its called a smooth surface up and down there is no division, if your driving and typing and cause an accident i hope that the person finds out. I HOPE they sue your dumbass

"oh but i was trying to type hello world, and i missed the O cuz i couldnt feel it"

nooooooooooooooo

i cant remember but i think clarion had a car reciever that had a touch screen with feedback, sounded interesting i guess it never flashed out.

the iphone has a few things that are really smart, the multitouch screen is not apples idea. but the voicemail is intuitive and the threaded sms' is pretty cool. outside of that i can get M2 cards that are 8gbs now ... so why would i spend 600$ for a product i cant even expand on?

and aim express is fine and dandy but youd need a capable internet connection to stay on.

streaming youtube videos is going to feel like slow death on edge ... good luck.

the grim outcome is that this is going to be a runaway hit in terms of sales. however its another example of why apple is well apple: lets make a product but instead of making a great product we create a great presentation and sell the idea! without actually fullfilling our claims.

im a ps3 owner so i feel the pain of the iphone kids but at the same time i get a whole lot more for my 600$ than they do. even if ihave one game to play. i bet some of you buying the iphone were arguing about the PS3 being overpriced and undervalued HOW THE FUCK DOES IT FEEL!?

the last thing is apple announced this thing in January ... that was the absolute dumbest thing they could have done. cell phone cycles every 12 months this isnt an emerging market its a developed industry. where apple failed is giving every other cell phone manufacturer 7 months essentially to "catch" up (not much of a gap to begin with outside of the services att is providing). cell phone companies are CUT THROAT they know how to make phones and change them b.c the competition announced a feature that they can implement and usually do, thats why many companies hold announcements and then release their products quickly (not more than 3monts usually). Also apple is FAMOUS for doing this announcing products that release the same day, so why give one of the most competitive markets such a long pd to adapt to a new competitor. look at samsung they churn out phones as if ppl are still paying attention every 6 mos. look at SE and Nokia battling one another one upping the next every year.

this wasnt well thought out and its a shitty phone a weak ipod nano and even less of an "intelligent media device" ...

go apple for proving the naysayers right.

weak sauce. i hope for everyones sake thats buying the phone that it can hold a signal.

shadymilkman

vaguesan

This is not only laughable on apple's part, but the fact that anyone even thinks to release a phone, much less a high end jobber like this without some pretty common features.

I know the interwebs these days is apple fan territory, but seriously, a few key mistakes:

Leaving out a huge chunk of the buying public buy going carrier exclusive on this one... DER HOI!

Songs as ringtones, now honestly for something that's basicially an iPod that takes phone calls to NOT have song files for ringtones is asinine. Some of the basic phones with other carriers sport not only MP3s as ringtones but, GASP, INDUSTRY FREAKING STANDARD HEADPHONE JACKS.

Video camera, now honestly it shouldn't be a big deal. But when I can go to another carrier and buy a phone for $30 with contract that has Video, Games, MP3 Ringtones, IM, and all the other now basically standard features why on earth would I pay $600 for a brick?

Now on top of the previous mis-steps I think is one of the larger ones. No removeable battery. And no voice dialing. Honestly, anyone who lives by their cell phone knows you go through battery life like it's nothing after the first 6 months with a new phone. Having the ability to go buy $40 batteries versus not knowing when your phone will shut down due to increased standby drain is a lifesaver. And with a pretty graphically heavy phone like this I can't imagine much in the way of decent battery life in the long run. Can anyone say iPod marketing disaster with gen one iPods and their ill concieved no replaceable batter "feature"? The voice dialing thing to me is a saftey thing first and foremost since people will continue to talk and drive and with no tactile feedback, not having a voice dial makes little to no sense.

The last point I'll make is more damning to their own business model. And that's not having iTunes site support on the brick. Not only should it be supported, it should be your fucking homepage when you open the browser if they had any sense whatsoever.

Thanks anyways, I'll keep my two year old clamshell that has more features and only cost me $35... In fact I'm gonna go play lumines right now while you watch youtube or listen to some old monotone ringtones...

PSN: kingpsyz

1. Just wait a few weeks and this new battery will be causing meltdowns and smoke outs all over!
2. I dropped my $700.00 iPhone on the sidewalk and it blew apart. I took it to the apple store and they said drop dead. Now I hate those guys cause I'm still locked into my 2 year contract!
3. I had to fire up my old Nokia phone and get it's ringtones in order to have some variety on my iphone!
4. I've been swipping my finger across the screen so much that it is dull now. The apple store said drop dead.
5. I now have to buy bi-focals because I've been reading stuff on the "real web" on my iPhone.
6. Now that I have my iPhone, my closet is full of different versions of the iPod, Nano, Video and others. No one wants them either! I feel stupid carrying all of them around, but do so because they represent a big investment for me.
7. I thought I could get in fairly cheap at $700.00, but I require lots of minutes, so I pay the $100.00 a month for me and my iPhone by having that third job.
8. Child services took my kids away today because we didn't have enough food in the house, but they didn't take away my iPhone. Thank goodness! Ow, I've got to call my lawyer anyway!

Penchum

Oh BTW I won't be buying it either. It's too expensive and it's missing too many features. Wait did I just sound like an anti-iPhone fanboy. Sorry.

homer_s

• Songs as Ringtones
• Games
• Any flash support
• Instant Messaging
• Picture messages (MMS)
• Video recording
• Voice recognition or voice dialing
• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)
• A real keyboard
• Removable battery
• Expandable Storage

I could go on for a while, but why bother?

Stuff it doesn't have (or the iphone either)
• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)
• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)
• GPS
• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)

As always, Apple products are more about hype and marketing than actual substance.

xenos

...but but it has SAFARI! The features are avalible thorugh THE INTERNET, SO IT DOES TO HAVE THEM!

God forbid Apples heavily anticipated product doesen't live up to your wonderful and perfect dream. It's just a phone man. It's really not all that special.

And now that I see this list of non feature I know it's even less special. I'll give it credit for Safari though. It probably will be the best internet browsing phone on the market.

By the sounds of it though, I'd rather have a sidekick.

Sean

EmptySet

I should just bag a HTC Mogul off Sprint, buy a 4GB mini-SD card then sell it off eBay as an iPhone on steroids... Will look something like this.

1. Get Mogul + 4GB (or 8GB) miniSD
2. Write in description iPhone 2.0 but with keyboard, mms, and removable battery.
3.???
4. Profit.

velglarn

raulr2

Well, a gentleman(XTREMECAMERA) pointed out that even though iPhone lacks those features listed in the post, but what it HAS is "light years ahead of others".

Though I don't know which features that's light years ahead of others, I do like to point out my concerns.

What it lacks can be the MOST IMPORTANT things for many Groups of users.

I believe that (at least one of) iPhone's most important aim(s) is to become an muti-media phone/ entertainment phone(!?)

But it doesn't even support
• Songs as Ringtones
• Games
• Any flash support
• Instant Messaging
• Picture messages (MMS)
• Video recording
• Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Streaming (A2DP)
• One-size-fits-all headset jack (May have to buy an adapter for certain headphones)
• 3G (EV-DO/HSDPA)
• Expandable Storage
• Direct iTunes Music Store Access (Over Wi-Fi or EDGE)

...... pretty much the exact list as Jason's.

Seriously, after reading the news about SonyEricsson's new W960i, and Nokia's N Series (Or even the new 6500 slide/classic) I realised I can get a much better/ more entertaining phone from "professional phone companies" with cheaper price.

Even the Sony w960i is a symbian smart phone with 8GB build in memory + 2.6" touch screen, motion sensor & real keys

Heck, even HTC's new phone is pretty good (if not better), too!

There are more choices than "Jeasus Phone"... It really comes down the fact that you buy it because you NEED it, or simply because you WANT it. (Follow the crowd, anyone?)

big-daddy

Also, I didn't say MP3 player, because on my smartphone I can use Ogg Vorbis format where a decent sounding song is 1.5MB to the 4MB MP3, thus getting better capacity out of my memory card. OH and I can use any number of different music playing apps developed for my smartphone so that I'm not "stuck" with the one that came on it. I love having a CHOICE of applications that people have written for my phone.

prahspectah

The iPhone is a big let-down, and I miss the days when Apple put all their cores in one, computer-shaped basket (okay, two. The iPod is rock-star-solid-gold).

If you're going to lead off with a phone, you had better make it 'teh sex' for everyone, not just the fannest fan-boys. Show me a reason why I can't live without this. Show me how it will solve all my problems except the one that involves good Italian sauces not agreeing with my stomach.

ChrisFromOhio

Hello sir, Flash is NOT a "standard" like http or pop3. Flash is a proprietary format supplied by Adobe, which can only be reliably played back with an Adobe supplied player if you wish to view any content made in the last few years.

Anyone who waited for Photoshop on the intel mac or is still waiting for a amd64 compatible plugin for Firefox in Linux knows the general hatred for Adobe first hand.

punkinator

hanswurst0815

Dasutin

flxrms

Now I really don't think I can get this until they offer some kind of IM solution via a software update. Maybe if someone develops a really good AJAX IM client, but I'm not holding my breath...

I wonder if this is enforced by AT&T to pimp their overpriced SMS plan?

InfoMofo

And you having a camera hardly balances out the embaressing fact that it can't record video. That's a standard in free low feature phones for the mainstream consumer.

And AIM Express is hardly as good as other AIM apps, like the Sidekicks, which is the best one available.

Jonny-Bryce

He's not saying that Flash is not "common", he's saying Flash is not standards-compliant like HTML, AJAX or Javascript, for instance.

runeasgar

In the current era of cell phones and smart phones, if you have to justify why a device doesn't have certain features, you're in trouble.

Sure, you might not use MP3's as ringtones, but what is the legitimate reason for not using them?

Also, if you want IM service -- as things like the Sidekick and Helio and Razor and Chocolate and a dozen other phones already offer -- then why should a $600 smart phone not offer it as well? Why should yuo have to use Safari as a bottlenekcto use the service?

If I'm paying $600 for a phone -- a SMART phone -- it had better have IM services, quick access to all popular web-based email services, as much picture and video text messaging as I can send, as well as voice dialing and everything.

Look -- the iPhone needs to not have less than it's competitors.

It needs to have more.

A LOT more.

But fortunately for Apple, they have ready legions of fanboys ready to line up a days in advance.

hyperion

1.Start Visual Studio, click "new project","Device Application"
2.?????????????????????
3.Profit!!!

Oh wait, never mind, that's any WM phone in existence. This is the iPhone, and there's no sdk.

bpatten

ahmed90

BTW, MMS? Give me a break. That's like arguing for keeping VHS because you already have it and all your friends have it.

lmidnight

eggs

Adobe Flash, formerly Macromedia Flash began its life as FutureSplash, from a company called FutureWave. Macromedia acquired them back in the late 90s (I'm guessing that's around when most of you were about 5). Macromedia renamed the product Flash 1.0.

Fast forward to 2007, Flash 9.x is still around, largely the same, but with some extras bolted on, like some more advanced scripting and video playback. Sure, it's cross platform, and widely used, but that does not make it an open standard, kids. By that same logic, one could proclaim that Windows XP is an open standard computing platform.

Further, to those who say stuff like "use Safari for IM with AIM Express/Yahoo/Meebo/somethingelse". I'll simply pose this question. Have we seen a demo of Safari on the iPhone that includes multiple tabs, or multiple windows that are reasonably easy to manage, given the input mechanism in use? I sure haven't seen one. If you're going to use Safari for your IM client, and don't have good ability to manage multiple windows, you just eliminated the usefulness of the browser. Navigate to another site, your IM connection goes away. Leave it on the IM site, you can't browse other stuff.

I love the concept of the iPhone. I really do. Convergence is where we're heading and I accept that. Heck, I even like it. iPhone != the jesusphone that everyone says it's going to be. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd gen iPhone will be worth my $$, but certainly not this one. Lots of cool, but not enough to make me plunk down full unsubsidized price while locking into a 2 year contract.

Floobtronics

Oh and it makes phone calls, too.

olegna

AnilPetra

(This may come in a software upgrade, however).

Very odd, because the iPhone would actually be a decent text entry device if horizontal typing were supported.

AnilPetra

mobileT83

A few responses:

MMS is the same as going online and downloading a photo attachment.

Wrong. MMS is far more convenient because it means you don't have to go online, open your browser, log in to your email, click a message, download an attachment, open the attachment in some other app. Not having MMS is retarded. Surfing the web on a phone is expensive and kind of frustrating (because it's slow).

The same can be said about any of the things that require you to go online because the iPhone won't have it as a built-in feature. (Try logging on to your IM and having a conversation via a web browser on your mobile phone. It' snot a cool as it sounds.)

Who needs MP3 ringtones?

Good point, but the same could be said about many of the features that comes with mobile phones. Even the new RAZR plays MP3 ringtones. I like this because I don't like the sound of MIDI tones. Some people might use this feature to show off their lame taste in music, but I use it for MP3s that are a lot more subtle and classy than MIDI sound files.

Mac has a terrible tendency to toss out untested product and let their style-conscious early adopters weed out the problems for the second rollout. As far as I'm concerned: anyone walking around with a first-edition iPhone in the next couple of months is an impractical fool more concerned about the image they portray than being, well, a savvy consumer.

PS - The iPhone looks like a fingerprint and smudge magnet. And I would be surprised if that "sexy" metallic border isn't just plastic made to look like "brushed aluminum" (which itself is very 1980s).

And I am amazed that people buy products that haver batteries locked inside whose lifespan is far less than the gadget it powers. Anything I would have to mail in to the manufacturer (or pry open myself with a screwdriver following DIY instructions to save $100) to simply replace a battery is off my shopping list.

olegna

Plus, I'll wager that inside of 60 days, so enterprising developer will get a 3rd party app (hopefully a version of Adium) running on this thing. Once that happens, all bets are off.

serpicolugnut

Yagi085

The average sidekick user (and I say sidekick user because I believe that the sidekick crowd is going to be the biggest demographic for the iPhone) has never done an upgrade to a cell phone's firmware, and wouldn't be able to handle it. Hell, Cingular released the new firmware for the 8125 last fall noone even knew it. I know 10 people with 8125s, and I was the only person who upgraded to it (for about a day, AKU 3.2 ftw). A software upgrade is only as good as the user, and when you're fixing problems that SHOULD NOT EXIST FROM THE START, it really looks half-assed to me.

RamV10

MrCitizen

LinuxGalore

StackyBotrus

Come on, WHY the IPhone should be a revolutionary product if it lacks most of the more common features available everywhere?!

And I am not an Apple hater, I'm just being objective.

grimorg80

DaSmith

DaSmith

DaSmith

LAWL...that definitely made my morning

discounteggroll

sirtalis

GET A MEIZU MINIONE AND GET EVERYTHING FOR HALF THE PRICE!

Deoki

tolle.7

And no MMS? Are they insane? That's like something I do almost every day. Especially when I'm on vacation...

I'm sorry but this is just stupid...

Jan Hancic

CODIFEROUS

Secondly, I live in the UAE (Google it) so everyone must know that the mobile technology advancement in my country is way ahead of the known technologies in the USA, it is a fact and I've seen it in front of my eyes, and been hearing about it all over the net every time someone talks of some service in the USA or some new mobile.

My point is really clear; I'm not a PC vs. MAC "guy", I'm more of a technology lover, I like good stuff that gives me hope of a better tomorrow and a dream like future (which will happen wither we like it or not).

I've read all the talk that have been running around the Internet about this "Jesus" phone, I've heard of many competitors and many tries that for some reason Analysts and writers always called them "a failure" compared to the iPhone... Wait a second, a failure??? So, I started questioning: How the hick did they decide that these iPhone-like mobiles are not as good as the iPhone without even touching the iPhone??

So I reached into a simple conclusion: These writers and analysts are a bunch of air-head, talk-loving, rumor-spreading, unreliable sources whatsoever... hold on, don't shift to the next post until you finish reading my comment.

Why do I call them air-heads? Basically, because all their talk and hype lifting stories are only based on: the look, and the good talk from Steve Jobs conferences, without taking into consideration the bad side of every single feature the iPhone has.

Guys, at some point in history Steve Jobs had a great idea, he actually lead the start of a PC (Personal Computers) market from its "A" point, in other words, 20 years ago, Steve Jobs had a new thing to show the world, but now, sorry to say this: He is fooling people around by joining the Hollywood hype of advertisements and crappy marketing strategies.

I'm not talking about Microsoft here, so don't start bringing up names and other companies; I'm only talking about the Apple as it being the Apple brand, nothing more and nothing less. If you think that Apple is great then that's good for you, and if you hate them then also well for you, because at the end life goes on and sticking to an opinion is not bad after all.

Anyways, the way I would like to think of this whole market war is: Give me more, in less price; I'll then respect you until someone else brings up something good... If I buy a Samsung and love it and after one year I find a nice thing from Philips then I will defiantly shift, especially if it suits my standards of life... I'm not going to stick around Samsung and defend them for whatever they do, I'll not even care of them until they keep up with the commitment and potential they showed me in the product that I bought from them. I think that everybody agrees on this part.

And now, after the respected reviews are out and the iPhone spics are revealed I would like to announce my full disrespect to Apple's Steve Job for all the talk he did and all the dreams he made me had of a brighter future!

Around me right now people who own 3.5G compatible phones, with full browsing support, and full flash and JAVA support, with extendable memory that I think is really cheap in the UAE (2 GB card for DHR 200 = USD 50 ), with high resolution cameras, video recording, any song ringtones, nice and bright screens, audio and video playback, visual voice mail through the network, Mobile TV (through the wonderful 3.5G network we have), MMS and email support, free SDK support for developers, and much much more.

All of this makes me wonder why do people still talk of the iPhone? Then it pops up and the answer comes: it is because of the Multi-Touch Screen, the coolness of the flicking motion that you do to view lists and pictures... That's it??????!!

History is repeating itself! Remember when Steve Started the PC evolution and everybody were hyped and cool about it, but what did actually happen next? Steve found himself stuck with no useable software, so bill takes the game and starts the real revolution... So, what do I want to say?

Well, I predict that the iPhone is going to be a real failure for Steve, maybe not money wise, but morally and technologically, simply because he has a huge fan base, but if you come to think about it very well, the iPhone cuts the human mental smartness into 2 pieces and grills the brains of people then stab us in the back with a handful of evilness and absolutely ugly intentions.

Eventually some company is going to take over the Multi-touch Screen and re-introduce it in a better way and better services or hardware; in a way that will really serve the human race the right direction, going parallel with the technology that people get from their networks and service providers.

The iPhone has nothing new except for the touch-Screen which might be the best thing around but with humiliation we cause to our selves by using this outdated, service wise, mobile that has got the attention of the entire human race.

Don't get me wrong people, but the iPhone really is nothing but a cooperation game which Steve decided to play with AT&T, throwing away all of his nice and respectable morals and way of thinking.

iPhone is: a system that works so good that it reminds me of a Flash game; a system so damn locked and SDK-less that reminds me of a stupid Flash game; a system that is so money-sucking that it reminds me of a GAME!

Enjoy the hype people; I'm still waiting for a better phone, a better device, or maybe a better iPhone! :)

Peace out.

Saad Rabia

MP3 Ringtones have been standard on phones for a while. Anything running windows mobile can do it. I like having the M.A.S.K theme as my ringtone..plain and simple. Childish? Yes. but very important.

No MMS? How will I send those funny birthday cards with pigs getting drunk? Or pictures of giant turds I just laid?

I have a Motorola A1200 (Ming) and it has all of the features listed above. I paid $350 for an unlocked one in Shanghai. It runs LINUX and never bogs down. It has a touchscreen keyboard even a business card scanner.

I'm a cellphone wh*re and buy a new one each month, but I have to say I am greatly disapointed in this iPhone. I'm not a fanbou or an anti-fanboy. Just someone who's not impressed yet. Impress me, and I'll be impressed.

Wash

Neo_Knights

DigitalAce7

Wouldpkr

Wouldpkr

Erzengel

lets see i'll be restating the obvious but i'll put a new spin on it--my old virgin mobile kyocera slider sonic had more features than the iphone did...

also im confused...how will it support youtube without flash support? that would mean they are streaming mpegs or something...but i thought that was blasphemy

no picture messages? then why the F*** do we see gay billy in those iphone commercials in the guys email? oh thats email right right...so rather than just sending the picture from phone to phone...you have to export it off your computer, and send it to the other guys email...then if he wants it on his phone, he has to go buy a file transfer software for his phone, and what if he has something like virgin mobile?
short version? hes boooooooooned (to quote tucker of rvb)

but honestly we're leaving out some features the iphone is missing, for example:
1. decent battery life (what was that apple test? eight hours? well thats ok, but that ninth hour will be the one you get raped/molested/killed/etc etc)

2.service...at&t exclusive...which is a fine service, but verizon and sprint customers are f***ed, and also i dont see an antenna...sure its inside the thing but so are the antennas on fm transmitters and those have a range of like thirty feet right? great

3. the lack of brining much new to the table...cool touch screen, that wont get old...c'mon, its gonna get annoying, admit it..."sure you can call your girlfriend, but wear these protective, non static cotton gloves before you dial"...christ

ive been anti iphone from the start, yes...but i swear they're really shooting themselves in teh foot with all of this..i would love nothing better than to see the iphone be amazing, really, b/c then that would mean competition from other companies and lowered prices for the rest of us, but c'mon, 600 big ones for a phone...with no java!!!

virgin mobile isnt sounding so bad all of a sudden.........

canfezplay

The IPhone will sell.

Now lets have a laugh, how much is MS stock?? $27 (it's been under 30 for years).

Dark13

NightBlade

WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU SAYING HERE???

You mean to tell me all of these features are ALREADY AVAILABLE??? Next thing you know you are going to say that they have been for years.

You must be high.... there can't be a devise that has all those features already... the iPhone hasn't been released yet.

Boy are you silly

Realtor Dude

NightBlade

fon_fanatic

o0adam0o

eddiesdguy

Oh, and you won't be able to buy a wallpaper that's not sized properly for your phone screen that has an animated picture of a 24" spinner (so that it is, indeed, spinning), or a picture of gold fronts with embedded diamonds.

Also it doesn't do that beep-beep walkie talkie thing, so you won't be able to have broken conversations with someone 50 feet away. Because everyone knows it's so awesome to do that, you know, "beep-beep where you at? oh yeah hang on i see you yeah ok be there aight beep-beep."

Er, it won't let you screw on a five LED flashing antenna so that everyone around you can be alerted that you, without a doubt in the universe, are talking on the phone.

Although, it *will* let you show your boys that video of you outside 106th & Park trying to freestyle to your friend's MIDI version of a Jay-Z beat, then getting hassled by building security, and you tried to act all hard but the truth is you're a part-time manager at The Gap and can't afford bail.

Snizaap... nevermind, I think all I did above was describe the scene around me at the E-Walk Theater in Times Square last week. My bad. Hope I didn't offend anyone there. By all means, run out and grab that iPhone! You just won't be able to afford those new rims.

beep-beep.

Oh yeah - don't sweat it, you can pay your AT&T bill right at the check cashing place. Though I'm pretty sure activation through iTunes doesn't process food stamps. (The trick is to buy $0.50 bags of chips, because you get real money back.)

(I'm so banned.)

Justin D

mechanisma22

"The Apple phone combines intelligent voice calling..."

But I think he merely means "Hey, its a phone. You know, you talk to people with it. Watson come here, I need you"

But some people are understanding this to mean that he is wearing his Borg bluetooth, and saying "Call Steve" and the phone calls Steve. Or he can say "Answer". That is, some think he is saying that the iPhone has this common level of voice command, for making and retreiving calls, as many phones do.

Which is it?

ozimandias

jmdecombe

This is the happiest day ever :D
joy to the world!!! The iPhone sucks!!!

Now lets go to ebay and get a REAL smartphone, maybe an unlocked HTC with slideout keyboard and the lastest WM.

Erzengel

first of all, the ATT lockin would be the only dealbreaker for me. it's a GSM phone, so the least it should do is allow interchangeable SIM. this probably means that el jobso probably wanted this to be a CDMA phone,but the visionaries and VZW didnt bite, so ATT got sloppy seconds.

secondly, why would anyone buy a first-gen apple product? it's got nothing really going for it apart from the cool factor(and maybe the UI).

put me down to be in line for iphone 5G, not earlier :)

almostinfamous

wtfomg.

wow.

aDuh

raulr2

now i'll just have to think of other ways to spend six hundred bucks. hmm. gosh, that's gonna be a tough one.

lizard

It will be interesting to see how the phone performs once it's released.

msg007

Touch screens suck. Doesn't anyone remember all those terrible membrane keyboards that we all bought then threw out? The key word here is haptics. Steve thinks we will change our nervous systems just because it's cool.

Gary_7vn

It doesn't bother me that this is AT&T exclusive as I'm already an AT&T customer. AT&T's coverage has been fine for me, except the lack of 3G in my service areas. My current contract has all the same boobie-traps the iPhone contract will have, so no real shocker. Not that I'm worried, my current contract ends with the last day of September.

It's not a deal-breaker that it can't access a 3G data network, it's just lame. It's not like the existence of those networks was some wowzer secret, or that AT&T won't be expanding their coverage over the next two years. Meanwhile, buyers of first-gen iPhones will be stuck with EDGE. Again, lame, but not a deal-breaker.

Others have said that it's lame that it can't use mp3 ringtones. Totally lame. This is an iPod phone, for crying outloud. There's no licensing issue since you're using the songs on an authorized device. It's just lame, but not a deal-breaker.

Having a killer web browser that doesn't support flash is just LOL funny.

Everyone has their own priorities but the deal-breaker for me is that it won't sync with Outlook. And no, my computer is not shot through with virii and worms because I use Outlook. For me, it's been a solid email and contact manager for 6+ years. I'll be damned if I want to enter in my entire contact list, task list, and calendar (you know, those smartphone things) by hand when on an WM6-based smartphone, or a Treo with the right conduit, just syncs right up.

So I am left with the opinion I had when the iPhone was first announced. I'll avoid the first gen model and see what subsequent generations and versions have to offer. By doing so, I'll avoid being crushed by stampeding fans. Meanwhile, for the next two years, I'll look elsewhere.

bvorka

That said, I am not getting an iPhone.

Why? I think Gizmodo just laid out a few very good reasons in this post. Couple that with the fact that I'd have to switch to AT&T (whom I loathe), I'd have to fork over $650 to buy it, then pay another $100+ a month to access all of it's features.

We're talking about around $1,850 to have an iPhone for the first year after it comes out.

I've had my phone for 1 year, and my total talk time has been around 40 minutes. If my current cell phone had cost me $1850 by now like the iPhone would have, I'd be paying $46 an hour to use the thing.

And then at some point within the first couple of years I'd have to send it in to get the battery replaced, instead of just buying a replacement battery like I could for my current cell phone.

So much for the "happy finish."

dna

So you think a feature is useless: well, guess what, the phone isn't designed for you. Sorry. Some people do use some of those random features even if you think they're pointless. Coming up with half-baked workarounds for IMing like "just use AIM express" is stupid; imagine how clunky and awkward that'll be on a dinky screen. An actual (ooh, maybe THIRD PARTY) app for it that's actually *Designed* for an iPhone could potentially be good.

~Not an iPhone hater, just a telecomm hater. (well, maybe a bit of an iPhone hater... but mostly because it failed most of my stellar hopes about revolutionizing the telecomms.)

Bloody_Sorcerer

Aim Express, without FLASH?

greg3d

HookahGuru

Good luck with that, seeing as
"It's the version of the internet...that doesn't support FLASH!"

greg3d

jmdecombe

drbles2010

jmdecombe

goshone

MP3 as ringtone???lets see just about every modern phone allows it hell my 2 year old razr does it, not to mention supports a frigging mini-sd card

not to mention non-editable docs and excel? oh wait let me guess... "google docs"

no you cant forgive a phone for not having a application because theirs webbased altternatives, not when other phones have it! AND ESPECIALLY when the damn iphone costs 6 bills and is stuck on the EDGE NETWORK!

phantam

zingbot

reality.check

Xerloq

I am sick and tired of the i_crap, in a year every joe schmoe will have one and you will cease to be unique...Can you say razr.

I for one will stick to a REAL cell phone.

stingray

There is an old-school keypad that is easily accessible.

Rob Daniel

rexfrmgr

the real question that we should all be asking is
will their be a itunes update this week?

oh starwars is on got to go!

rex

rexfrmgr

sneaky

shrimpster44

kodychamberlain

shrimpster44

iamnotdrtran

wooties

shrimpster44

sneaky

I say this list is both annoying and irrelevant. For instance, I'm incredibly happy that it won't let people use songs as ringtones. The entire 'songs as ringtones' concept is the most irritating thing human civilization has ever created. No phones should support songs as ringtones. They should ring so I don't have to hear 20 tinny seconds of Linkin Park to let me know the guy behind me in line at the supermarket is getting a call.

On the other hand, the lack of iChat or something sucks. Especially since you only get 200 SMS messages. When I saw the plan I thought, well, that's fine, why would I need to text message anyone when I can just sign on AIM. Now I can't text message anyone OR sign on AIM. I mean, sure, AIM Express and so on, but considering the web access is pretty slow and there's no guarantee it'll be usably-sized on the small screen I'm not banking on it. I'm really hoping there's an iPhone port of iChat in the works and they just didn't get it finished in time for launch.

CrimsonGhost

Roller

Roller

amppcguru

woohoo! iPhone not as good as everyone thought!

bmg50barrett

-Only one phone per customer during opening week

-current customers NOT under contract pay the additional data plan amount, and any text message contract additions can be kept or removed

-The biggie (confirmed by the manager and 2 employees, man I hope this is wrong!): iPhone also drops a secret price bomb in your lap ala at&t: Current customers still in a service contract with att cannot buy an iPhone without paying a $175 contract buyout fee!

I made sure to ask the questions as many ways as I could, and here is what I found out:

Under normal circumstances, att customers only qualify for upgrade (subsidized) phones once they reach the end of their contract term. So, I'm still 12 months away, so I cannot get an upgrade price on a phone at an att store. No big deal, I can pay full price and still buy a new model phone. iPhone? No way. Even though it is not subsidized, att policy is that if you don't qualify for an an upgrade, you cannot buy iPhone! The only option for a customer still under contract is to pay the $175 to buyout the contract and start a new one! So, on top of $600 for a non subsidized phone, I pay another $175 to buyout my contract, and the iPhone activation fee on top of that!

Pretty schrewd, and obviously designed to favor new att customers, while screwing current customers. I feel bad for the att store employees who have to turn people away.

tumblemonster

Flash has not been nor will it ever be a standard. Is it used alot, especially in these Web 2.0 days, yes, but to be a standard it has to conform to the W3C which it never will since "flash" is not a open platform but one that was made by Macromedia and then bought out by Adobe. There are W3C compliant ways to host flash content, but flash the application is considered a proprietary plug-in.

that being said, I am disappointed the iPhone doesnt currently have flash, but Im pretty sure it will in the near future, Adobe is VERY slow in working with manufacturers in leveraging their technology.

Falconfire

THIS is a total dealbreaker for me, because I have lots of dishes and windows and every room in my house has a freaking FLOOR!

Rob Daniel

Tell Steve Jobs: Unlock the iPhone! On Friday June 29, Apple will release the iPhone, with 3 million units available -- seemingly more than enough to match the endless hype. However, if you want to purchase one, you'll be stuck using it on AT&T. It doesn't matter that the iPhone could work on other networks -- Apple refuses to let that happen.

The iPhone uses technology (known as GSM) that should allow it to work on other wireless networks, including overseas. But Apple has configured the iPhone so you're forced to use it on AT&T. An iPhone purchased in the U.S. will only work on the AT&T network, regardless of what SIM card is placed in it -- it cannot be taken to another GSM network such as T-Mobile.

So, if you're interested in an iPhone but are turned off by AT&T's corporate policies -- such as turning consumers' information over to the National Security Agency without warrants, their efforts to wipe out net neutrality, or the close-to-100% Republican giving of their new chairman -- you're out of luck.

It is in fact perfectly legal, according to a recent decision from the U.S. Register of Copyrights, for American consumers to unlock their phones for use on whatever network they would like. Apple is trying to take away that right by locking the iPhone to AT&T's network.

Sign this petition and add your name to the list of Americans calling on Steve Jobs, the President of Apple, to make the iPhone unlockable so that consumers can use it on networks other than AT&T. Then, forward the petition link on to some friends -- let's all remind Steve Jobs that the reason he's in business is because of us.

amppcguru

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