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3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

Twinnie — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:34:03 EDT

From the EverythingiPhone forum:

"I went to the Apple Store today to buy a new case and I had a Genius show me how to pull out the SIM, and when he did it says 3G on the Apple only SIM card!!!!! I mentioned this to the Genius (A 10 year veteran of Apple btw) and he smirked and stated yeah I can't really discuss that right now."

Twinnie

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

vinchbr — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:15:25 EDT

ev-do rev a.: avg of 400-700 kbps
umts Rel-99 (wcdma): 200 - 300 (kbit/s)
umts rel-5 (hsdpa): 400-700 kbps
gsm (CDMA2000 1X): avg 153,6

vinchbr

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

Pender — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:19:53 EDT

I can't even figure out what a teleport ray would DO, but I want one. Come on, Apple...

Pender

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

carriontron — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:12:47 EDT

can someone please comment on the major diff. with 3G? I understand that it is faster...but how much more? are we talking external 28.8 to 56k?

carriontron

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

drewheyman — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:04:41 EDT

Roaming agreements between Cingular & O2 are pretty strong, so they'd be my bet for the 3G iphone as well. i'd also say it'll be announced in October most likely, not July.

drewheyman

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

Drezio — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:48:39 EDT

3G is almost everywhere around here in Europe, and nearly all operators provide it. Coverage is also a lot more generalised than in the states, so 3G is almost a must for Europe.

On the other hand, i doubt there's any operator that operates (or their subsidiaries) in all Europe, but if you join Vodafone and Telefonica you certainly get most of it covered, so it makes sense if Apple negotiates on a per country service dividing the coverage between 2-3 major operators (Vodafone and Telefonica being very likely).

Drezio

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

DamienG — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:53:57 EDT

There will be a UTMS/3G model not just for Europe where it is popular but also for Japan where GSM simply doesn't exist and the current iphone just wouldn't work period.

Mobile competition in Europe is fierce and coverage varies greatly between operator and region. I would be a little surprised if they limit to one operator per country but a deal with a single operator for the whole of Europe would be insane.

Given the different languages, culture, economics and legalities involved I doubt a single operator would even be feasible. Whilst an operator may appear to operate in a variety of countries it has often been the result of acquisition and they tend to operate relatively independently with different equipment plans phones and conditions.

If Apple couldn't achieve a European wide music store themselves that had to deal with just some of these issues the chance of them managing it mith an operator are slim.

[)amien

DamienG

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

kryptik — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:39:02 EDT

I agree that it would be odd to make a Europe announcement just after the US launch. But realistically, I don't think the iPhone's got a hope in hell in Europe unless Mr Jobs squeezes MMS and 3G into there. If nothing else, MMS is a great moneyspinner for the networks - my network charges me 0.30 GBP per message, [0.60 USD]
In the UK, if you're on an expensive contract, you would expect all networks to give you a free 3G phone.

As for the size & battery, have you seen the specs on the W880?. No big touchscreen, but it's incredibly thin, has a removable battery and memory card slot [all of which take up space]. Battery life's not too bad.
I want to know whether the JesusPhone camera beats the autofocus 2megapixel unit on my k750i (http://beoko.com/blog)

kryptik

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

robotstephe — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:34:37 EDT

Hey - completely unrelated to the post itself, but just wanted to tell Mr. Diaz that the graphics you do for the Giz are AWESOME. Keep up the great work - the bubbles always make me laugh.

robotstephe

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

bruckwine — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:13:44 EDT

@onlooker:

And you believed him? If this phone never puts in 3G (or 4G) it will always be limited and upset Jobs plan of world domination :D. This will be 3g in Europe..as said earlier I think they will make an announcement but ti won't be available until 2008 by which time they'll probably release v2.0 in the US.

bruckwine

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onlooker — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:02:38 EDT

Not going to happen.
Steve has made it very clear the reasons for using edge over 3G. Battery life for one.... size for another.

onlooker

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

Jesus Diaz — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:00:41 EDT

Yes, Vodafone has a spanish branch. The same as Telefonica has a UK branch (O2). Apple is still talking to Telefonica/O2 and, I am sure, Vodafone.

Sorry, but no announcement on monday for the simple fact that Apple won't risk alienating their US customers, negotiations are still under way and they won't be launching a europe PR offensive in the summer. Simple as that.

The carrier needs to change the backend for both visual voice mail and activation, as well as other things we are not aware of yet.

Jesus Diaz

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

Lack — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:50:01 EDT

One more thing!
Remember, iPhone was announced in January to be available in June. Apple could make a similar hype announcement for the Europe lounch and have its customers wait half a year for retail availibilty.

Lack

3G iPhone Monday UK Announcement is Bollocks

Lack — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:47:13 EDT

Doesn't Vodafone have a spanish branch as well? And what makes spanish market so lucrative to ditch the worlds largest mobile carrier?

What changes at the backend are necessery?

Lack