FreeMan, Please eloborate on tinkering. If you are talking about adding aftermarket items for performance or other wise then you are totally incorrect! The magnusson moss warranty act states that the part or parts must have caused or contributed to the cause for which warranty work is sought. The manufacturer can't deny your warranty simply because aftermarket parts are present.

This may apply to the iphone as well.

People of this bricking iphone issue should research the magnusson moss warranty act because it covers any warranty issued by any manufacturer. The modified firm ware didn't cause any harm to the iphone so how can they deny your warranty. Just a helpful tip, though I don't know much when it comes to this sort of issue.

kidnkorner

Here's the ULTIMATE ANSWER to the question: "Whose fault is it?"

1. Apple created a product that happens to come with a certain EULA which you must agree to before using their product. They are a business, and as such, can put whatever the hell they want in their EULA, because you still have a CHOICE to refuse it and NOT USE the product! CYA: Cover Your Ass, and Apple did. And they have a right to.

2. You bought an iPhone: YOUR CHOICE. If you don't like what happens as a result, well you could have bought something else. No one forced you to spend the money. You also agreed to the EULA previously mentioned. YOUR CHOICE.

3. You downloaded an unlocking program. You put this program onto your iPhone. YOU RAN THE PROGRAM. So far, every choice up until now has been made by YOU, and EXECUTED by YOU.

4. Apple came up with a firmware update which they claim "makes the iPhone better" in some way, shape or form. And since they are the ones who invented it (and you are the one who agreed to their EULA), they can provide whatever the hell firmware update they want (as long as, by THEIR definition, NOT YOURS, it makes the iPhone more "functional", again, defined by them, NOT YOU). As it should be, as every business has a right to make it so.

5. You had a choice: install the firmware update, OR NOT. Despite warnings everywhere on the Internet and elsewhere: You EXECUTED THE PROCESS TO COPY THE FIRMWARE TO YOUR IPHONE. YOU RAN THE FIRMWARE UPDATE. Apple just provided an OPTION to download said update. YOU INVOKED IT.

If you modded your phone and got screwed, it's on YOU, NOT APPLE.

That's life, and the world of business. Don't like it? DON'T BUY THE PRODUCT. The world owes you nothing, and neither does Apple (as much as I hate them and would love to see them out of business).

An analogy to leave you with, that's actually FITTING to the situation, unlike a lot of them out there about cars and nonsense (this one makes sense, as you'll see):

You buy an iPhone, and you throw it against a wall (your choice as to whether you want to or not, and people do warn you). It shatters into a million pieces. Is Apple supposed to reimburse you for something you CHOSE to do? No.

And the above analogy works because it's based off choice. Apple DID NOT FORCE YOUR FIRMWARE UPDATE TO RUN. Even if it forced it to download, it did not run the update itself, and therefore you did.

YOUR FAULT. SUCK IT UP AND ENJOY YOUR IBRICKS!

brass2themax

When you think about it, the iPhone really is just a hand-held finger computer. All you people who are defending Apple's malicious actions would be pissed as hell if they disabled your Macbook because you installed some software on it that Apple Corporate didn't like. Why does the iPhone get such different treatment just because it lacks a keyboard?

SquirrelTapper

If you get a any product and change it to operate differently from how it was designed... let's call it hacking the device regardless if it is a tech or not. If the device is then rendered inoperable is is wholly on the modifier... point blank. Stop bitching at Apple or anybody elese for you trying to buck the system... Even if the system is flawed.. it is still the system.

In most states it is illegal to spit on the sidewalk but we all do it. If you ever get caught it is on you because we all choose not to follow the rules aout spitting ... i know its off topic but it is kinda parallel in concept.

As consumers if you want to remain a Tmobile or Sprint customer then you can only consume the wares that they offer. Period... McDonalds will not sell you sushi and you cant hack a fish filet to resemble sushi.

Grow up and take responsability even if it means you cannot have a Jesus Phone.

Aloha

docrock

A user hacks a phone that breaks the contract that they signed.
So you use an ethnic slur against the company that was being defrauded?

I thoght the hype over the phone was stupid. Now it looks like people were even more stupid.

fuhrmann

Dear Genius:

Learn to read and understand comments in context.

A commenter had taken (in my opinion) excessive umbrage at the term "Indian Giver" in a rather histrionic manner. In retort, I said, "Maybe they feel gypped. I'm sure, with enough patience, any customer can Jew a free repair out of Apple."

Let me explain to you a bit of my family history. I am Jewish. My mother is Jewish. My father is Jewish. My maternal grandmother is Jewish, as is pretty much every member of my family, except for the occasional gentile who has married into the family.

In the Twenties, my maternal grandfather's side of the family came to America from Poland. Around that time, my paternal grandmother's family came to America from eastern Germany by way of England.

In the mid-thirties, after Hitler had been named Chancellor, my paternal grandfather came to America, because he, like many German Jews, saw the proverbial writing on the wall. In January of 1942, he tried to enlist in the Army, but was turned away because he was originally from Germany.

About a year and a half later, he was drafted. When the Army wised up and saw that he could translate, he was put in the front lines to help liberate concentration camps. He was one of the first to help liberate Auschwitz. His squad captured an SS guard. He asked the guard, "How could you do this? How could you kill these people?" The guard replied, "They weren't people; they were Jews." My grandfather handed his machine gun and his sidearm to a squadmate and proceeded to beat the SS guard to death with his hands.

My grandfather believed strongly in freedom - freedom of religion and freedom of speech. On more than one occasion, he exercised his freedom in a manner that probably best be described as "being a dick." He got into a feud with his neighbors in an apartment complex in Jerusalem in the mid 60's, and, just to piss them off, fried up a pound of bacon on a Saturday.

Knee-jerk reactions to comments taken out of context leads to a tyranny of stifled expression. True democracy comes from the free exchange of ideas and often involves people being offended.

Don't ever question my dedication to my heritage again.

OMG! Ponies!

This isn't so much to 'get' something, like with the refund petition, but more to give people someplace to vent about Apple bricking phones with 3rd party apps. I think it was just a vindictive move on their part.

[www.ipetitions.com]

Word to the wise - if you 'sign' the petition with a comment like "all you iphone users should (insert brainless comment here)", you're still 'signing' the petition (which means you agree with it). Just FYI.

pir8matt

atomx

in a year and a half i wont matter, there will be iPhones EVERYWHERE. Every carrier is going to have it so why cant people freaking WAIT.

Falconfire

hockey930

Apple hyped the iPhone as running OSX, and as being a powerful computer in your pocket. Which we all know that it is. Now they expect us to believe that it naturally behaves in a way that no other computer system does?

"Hey, it's your OSX computer." "Hey, it's your OSX Phone that we'll destroy if you try to use it like an OSX computer."

seishino

As an iPhone owner and a hardware hacker, I can't believe the crap being spewed by gizmodo about the firmware update.
You are aware that FW updates to a hacked xbox will prevent the system from being used on Live! right? The last phone I had was a Cingular/AT&T 8525/HTC Tytn, in the last year it was hacked to run WM6. AT&T and HTC both refused to supprt hacked phones. I've read countless accounts of bricked tytn's that cost users to get fixed. Unlocking an iPhone and the firmware update are *BOTH* the users choice and controlled outside of any support responsibility Apple has for its products.

Gizmodo comes along and calls Apple "Indian Givers" because they won't support something that the product wasn't meant to do. Enough already. The iPhone is a great product. If you have to mess with it, don't blame apple for the issues.

unsigned1138

not old enough to have heard the phrase "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."

words. no matter how hard and fervently you flap your taco-slots will NOT hurt you.

it wasn't an action. and it wasn't a call to action. THOSE are things that can actually be racist. saying anything else only diminishes the impact of the word "racist" itself... making actual racist things get lost in the cloud of meaningless noise.

grow up people.

x23

You are a fucking anti-semetic bastard. I hope you die.

Foxbat2

niravabhavsar

ElCabong

applebasher

We may eventually see some third-party apps for the iPhone but I believe Apple will insist on an closed Nintendo style system where all software has to be published through iTunes after being certified by Apple or sold separately after receiving the Apple certification badge.

Providing an adhoc development model may sound nice but it would create a support nightmare for Apple for little or no return on that investment.

aristotle_dude

on a phone if you select this option it restores the phone to how it came out of the box? what's the point in bricking it, just make it unusable and make the user restore to factory default.

But yeah, whoever undated even after being warned should revise their logic.

royeiror

I'll hang out for the cool Apple updates... and I am LOVING the iTunes wifi store. Nothing like sitting on the shitter and buying some music.

jriga

You vs. Apple. Yea. Good luck wanker.

jriga

I'm sure Apple is devastated.

jriga

The difference between the UK and USA seems to be the concept that a hardware device can come with an EULA in the USA. Whereas over here it can't.

localzuk

But, like someone else pointed out...the Apps are not bricking the Ipods. That's garbage. Apple has *chosen* to make it so that the firmware is not compatible with the apps.

jdog2050

1: You have a 500mb operating system, on an 8gb phone, and you can't even use it to its full potential.

2: switching carriers is not illegal.

3: Even though most people will not use apps like Terminal, etc, a lot of people may have gotten into things like the AIM and Nintendo apps. I.e., who knows what was in store for the future of 3rd party apps

4: You know apple is just going to start selling the same crap at $5 a pop on the Itunes store.

I was also going to get an Iphone until I saw this garbage. Apple just officially overstepped their bounds. The DRM on the Ipod was always ok because it was efficient and simple. This just flat out holds back creativity. Stupid, stupid decision by Jobs.

jdog2050

WTF people?

iomatic

bryanmccormick

scolbert

[www.figma.com]

Cleverboy

johneaster

louballs

Bodypainter

Bodypainter

The iPhone is marketed in such a way that it's the "end all" mobile device, and as soon as people start to unlock it's true potential, they get screwed. I could understand that all 3rd party apps are not as safe as others, but Apple SHOULD try to accommodate some of these apps instead of shunning them all. (And the people who tried them)

MrSteak

Brian Lam

The balls of people to void their warranty by unlocking and hacking their phone, then do an update that Apple says will brick their phone, then getting mad when it happens?

Sheer lunacy!

Niam

People paid $2000 for this thing including the ridiculous 2-year contract.

Charbax

@Weller: "communist corporation". Putting those two words next to each other means you don't fully understand either term.

fota

wetworker

1) the warranty says your not covered if you don't use the phone as intended

2) Apple releases a press release that saying that if you have installed 3rd party apps or a an unlocked phone that it will likely be bricked

3) the install software (that is not compusary) says in big bold lettering that if you install this update and your phone has 3rd party apps or is unlocked it will likely be bricked... and you still press install??? HOW STUPID IS THAT!!!

like how incredibly stupid does Apple have to assume you are???

Apple didn't brick anyones iPhone these idiots that pressed install bricked their iPhones... there is just no excuse... they are paying the stupidity tax!!!

they chose to unlock their iPhone, chose to put the software on their iPhone, chose to install the update after being warned up the ying-yang.. why did they need the update? there is no compelling reason to update... Apple was fully willing to leave these morons with working, unlocked iPhones they just don't get any updates and they are so stupid they even screw that up.

these idiots bricked their own iPhones... that the reality of it... people need to own up to what THEY did, and accept responsibility for their own action... this is just pathetic!!! find another shoulder to cry on!!!

doctorSpoc

@lolec:

johnandtai

JRo

Aside from all that, these apps are OSX hacks from my understanding... They don't update or write to the 'BIOS'.... There is no reason for them to 'BRICK' the phone so that iTunes can't restore it.

razorx

JD3M

Good to hear Microsoft has started including a warranty with Windows software. I would think that would be a bad idea. You know, with all the third party software out there the will definitely mess up windows, their tech support people will be formatting a lot of PC's. (Microsoft has no warranty on Windows OS, so you can go ahead and hack your ntkernel.exe without having to worry about MS bricking your PC.) Maybe Apple should take a page from Microsoft on this one. Or not… whatever.

I do agree with your point though. If you use anything in such a way as it was not intentioned, you run the risk of loosing the use the above said "anything".

--Deamion

Deamion

:)

[en.wikipedia.org]

As per iPhone. O well. Apple will lose some PR and lose some dollars. Maybe more $100 in the works?

Its Apple, rather you are angry at them or not, you still will buy their stuff.

jifjif

For SHAME!!!.........

Tw33kR

BonGeek

Kaiser-Machead

Now I doubt they've hired ppl from the bottom of the tech barrel, so it's logical that yes they bricked your phones ADN they did it on purpose! It's obvious that the ffirmware targets phones that exploited the well-publicised exploitations taht allowed teh hacks and unlocks. I pity da fool!

Word of advice to the Hacker Community - next time you unlock something don't go publishing the hows and who's of it. Keep it SECRET so that some Apple employee/Jobsy slave posing as hacker22 can't use the info and do this sort of thing.

MMFY

incorrect. the new firmware reads what is currently runnning on the phone, and records it and uses it to install the new firmware. do some reading

GrassHopperKing

steve_jobs

Weller150

Kaiser-Machead

Regarding Apple - Jobs sucks, he suck-suck-suck-sucks sucki-sucks. (oh, wait, I better not verbally abuse Jobs - it probably isn't 'PC' ;^)

Lates

banmojo

WINONA: Jerry, I really need it back. It, it is mine.

JERRY: You can't give something and then take it back. I mean, what are you...
(catches himself)

WINONA: What?

JERRY: A uh, a person that uh...

WINONA: A person that what?

JERRY: Well, a person that gives something and then they're dissatisfied and
they wish they had, had never uh...

WINONA: And?

JERRY: ...give, given it to the person that they originally gave it to.

WINONA: You mean like, an Indian giver?!

JERRY: I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with that term.

freakshow1

Tgibber

I am sick and tired of people trying to shuck their responsibility for breaking their own devices, knowing full well what they were opening themselves to, then trying to get someone else to pay for their arrogance.

Niam

Niam

TurboFool

and further more why would you update to a firmware that has a HUGE warning, "I'M IN YOU"RE PHONEZ BREAKING YOUR SHIT" as a caption.

odnet

NeitherFanBoy

Hey Apple and Stevsie, don't make a "revolutionary device" and expect people not to try to push it to its fullest capabilities. They're not going to just sit there and wait for web 2.0 apps to load (zzzz).

I have not unlocked my phone. I do have 3rd party native apps that I'm NOT willing to give up. THEREFORE, no itunes store for me! It's pretty easy. Keep me as a ATT customer, or lose me as a potential itunes store customer.

If this keeps up, I don't really have a problem shelling out the contract cancellation fee (att) and move on to another provider (AND I'm happy with ATT so far).

I feel like taking my $100 rebate and buying something and then just smashing it in the store. This ordeal is almost as bad as the price drop.

I'm mad, AND my phone still works. Go figure.

James

i did however, sell all of my apple stock today. I have been an apple guy since the late 90's, and i spend entirely too much money on apple gear, as well as other gadgets. I am obsessed. People like me, the early adopter, are the ones that matter most. the ones that pay a premium for the new stuff. that early adopter premium is pure net profit to a corporation. The people that read giz all day long influence the other people that dont. We are the people that everyone else comes to for advice on these tech things. I wont be buying any more apple gear, and i wont be advising my family or friends to either. Apple is quickly becoming the new sony, and i have advised against buying anything sony for years. I probably have spent nearly ten grand per year on apple stuff alone in the last 10 years, and i have advised people to spend much more, but not any more.

again, this hoopla hasnt personally affected me, but its the principal

apple is arrogant, goodbye apple

rlreif

diverguy

Re: Indian Givers and what-not. I don't recall typing anything about being offended, but I would love to know what whinge means. Do tell...

Symbiotic

@Jerry6185: The problem is people aren't sticking to Apple News and they're bringing their sh*tfights in here, instead of coming here for gadgets & humor.

And @people who bitched about the Halo3 "unboxing":... ummm after a few days you'll be tossing the H3 disc around... and guess what, after a bit longer you wont even care, just like that Batman figurine that you wanted when you were five (or last year).

@everyone: All of this shite is just fanboy-wars and internet arsonists.

Remember, only YOU can prevent internet fires.

Ungenious

Niam

The 'core' audience aren't people hacking the iPhone...please quit overstating your importance.

Niam

tomaartist

viavis

Now would be great if GOOGLE came out with a FREE PHONE with an OPEN OS. Apple would be completely hosed having dissed their core devs.

Apple succeeded on coolness and their core fanboys and devs and they have just become sooo un-cool. Never has their been bad PR like what is going on now with the blogs and chats.

viavis

Superb economy... "Prostitute asking for someone to fuck her and also she gonna pay to that customer whoever gonna fuck her!"

Great! Long Live Big Corporate Business Model!

BonGeek

Cleverboy

I find it hilarious that anyone thinks the insignifcant few who are complaining about this either (a) represent the masses of iPhone users or (b) it will seriously affect Apple's business model or profitability.

In all actuality, the number of people who are hacking their phone is less than 1%. Please knock it off with the whole senitment that Apple is somehow offending the masses.

Clowns.

Niam

lafond66

Then I'd have posted teh video on you tube!

How do you like that for PR, Apple? I'm a shareholder, but this bullshit is going too far :/

tnkgrl

Firstly, Apple never slandered any developers. I'd like to see which legal troll comes out of the woodwork to make such a goofy claim.

Secondly, Apple has no control over the source and nature of unauthorized applications loaded onto the phone, thus cannot guarantee that your phone will operate properly upon installation of these applications. If your phone bricked after the firmware update but your phone was unmodded, then I can see the big problem, if your phone bricked after the update and you had third party stuff crammed into it, you don't really have much to bitch about, especially since you were all specifically warned that this would happen.

As previously suggested, play dumb, and keep your trap shut. A bricked phone won't show you what you did to it software-wise, and even an unmodded phone can brick.

Kaiser-Machead

1. Update "virgin" iPhone to 1.1.1.

2. Update unauthorized modified iPhone to 1.1.1.

Virgin iPhone works. Modified iPhone doesn't. Case closed.

Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time...

nojo

But I won't switch to Linux either, so, meh.

Klappstuhl

Apple didn't say that the 3rd party stuff bricks a phone. They said that they aren't responsible for any issues that an update might cause. It's clearly against the TOS to install a 3rd party app. They aren't hiding that fact. They actually came out and said this was gonna happen last week. Anyone who tries to sue Apple isn't gonna get very far.

What they could do is come out with a firmware that will bring the phone back to normal. This is a software bricking that can be corrected. So if Apple does fix the phones via software you'll be at square one bitching about how you can't use it on other carriers. (I hate the cell phone market as much as anyone else, but let me just ask one question. What's cheaper, paying the $200 to get out of a current contract and hop on AT&T, or buying a phone, bricking it and having to buy a new phone?)

BurstAneurysm

Kaiser-Machead

globel

macmanwa

harshmellow

I...I have..powers. Terrible powers!

TonyTriple

Identical.

Brasil221

You appear to have an extremely naive viewpoint

If Apple installs software in their own OS that needs to then over-write software that had no rights being there in the first place - how is that deliberately bricking phones?

They simply proceeded along their scheduled software rollout - found that this killed many un-authorized 3rd party apps, and told everyone that it would happen (which they didn't have to do) ahead of time, to at least give them a heads-up.

If you think a corp like Apple is in some way exacting 'revenge' on the 3rd party apps, you're living in cloud cuckoo land!

iPhoney

its kinda the same thing with apple, getting people to update so they can use their wifi music store, and then they get a bricked iphone because they "hacked" it

although i don't think any brickings occurred as a result of any of the psp firmware updates

Andham

cannibalrock

Niam

Microsoft has been criticized (in fact sued and fined) for creating a device that contains its own selection of software to the exclusion of others. For example, it used to bundle Windows Media. The government decided that this practice prevented (or at least made it difficult for) users to elect to use a different media player.

Isnt Apple's decision to make the iPhone run only its proprietary software a similar violation?

I am confused.

mtopper

Niam

demonwolf

cannibalrock

Jeff_McAwesome

PaleRider

getgreg

BurstAneurysm

Look up the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act...its there to protect automobile consumers from getting the push around when it comes to modding cars still recieving warranty.

If my iphone battery explodes did my unlock cause that....no...should be covered still.

Mrmateo

The thing is, this is a very un-apple thing to do. Are they going to stop warrantying a macbook because you installed a 3rd party app? No. The simple fact that this update is killing the unlocked phones leads me to believe that AT&T was breathing down Apple's neck to eliminate the problem. Apple doesn't care if it's exclusive, if someone wants to buy a phone to use on tmobile, that's just another $400 in Apple's pockets. AT&T is the only one suffering from the unlock. If anything, be mad at them instead of Apple.

So yea, the end result is that Apple bricked your phone... but you should've seen it coming. Hell, there's even a warning in updater 1.1.1 stating that your phone won't work if you unlocked it. It's in bold type people, they weren't hiding it from you. Even if you went through with it, the last thing you wanna do is go in to the store and tell them that you cracked it (knowing full well that it breaks the TOS) play dumb and just say something went wrong, you might have better luck.

BurstAneurysm

Btw, that noise is actually the worlds smallest violin, playing for all the nerds who were deeply offended by the "indian giver" comment, i personally found this a very funny way to sum up the situation. If you're that easily upset and/or so "cool" that you feel the need to whinge when people don't write using 10 letter+ words only, maybe you should get off your computer, walk out of your mums basement AND GET A LIFE.

tin

beccamanns_theotherwhitemeat

OMG! Ponies!

On a side note I'm pretty happy with my iphones functions...if it locks up u shutdown and turn it back on big deal...so many people love to bitch and moan lmao.

Im with some people on both sides of the camp though, Apple is just protecting themselves, I understand my warrenty is void..but Id still cover my tracks to my best abililty and try to get it worked on/replaced/etc if it came down to it...If your not capable or informed enough to figure this out yourself then you deserve a bricked phone..ahem...iPhone.

Everyones saying good guy bad guy...everyone is just playing each role .

Mrmateo

a) Make yourself some chamomile tea, stop inventing things to get upset about and relax just a little bit

b) Keep up the inanity. I'm getting a laugh out of seeing the panties all twisted up.

I'm guessing calling Mr. Lam a racist is going to bring down the hammer. But you all don't really care. After all, the cries of indignation all seem to be accompanied with "I'm done with you and Gizmodo and and your racism and your Apple-bashing."

If you all need me, I'll be busy laughing at the girlish "he said a dirty word" comments.

OMG! Ponies!

macmanwa

now granted it is pretty stupid to update when they warn you about 3rd party apps. there's nothing wrong w/ discouraging people from installing 3rd party apps but anyone who thinks they're not intentionally bricking the phones is either the highest degree of fanboy or a crackhead. this is all so apple can increase profits by having control of what apps can be run but bricking the thing goes too far. they're not indian givers, they're a bunch of fascists

Weihovah

wonder if they'll support my friend's iPhone who installed the 3rd party apps...

Geisrud

GoPadge

aboriginal

On the iPhone: The customer's first mistake: He/She purchased an iPhone. His/her second mistake? He/She purchased an iPhone from Apple. To put it quite simply, Apple has had a long history of monopolizing everyhting they touch. (only Apples sell computers with Mac OS, only apple software this, apple software that). It is no wonder Apple is trying to monopolize software use on their iPhones. The short-sightedness of their effort to brick their phones is astounding, and i would never imagine that an at least marginally successul business would do so. However, leave it to the geniouses at Apple to go out of their way to ensure that everyone gets infuriated with their product. If it weren't for public schools, Apple would have sunk long ago.

Brasil221

Geisrud

however, the real reason behind all that is that apple wants to generate money out of the customer. the customer has to pay a much higher phone bill, the phone itself is expensive, even boring ringtones cost extra etc etc. I am a bit scared where that might lead to one day. it seems like there is no end, apple turns out to be more and more clever in how to generate money.

who would have thought that an ipod game will not work on another ipod? jobs forced us to buy it twice. maybe you can dump ringtones on another iphone? maybe one day apple will force the user to automatically buy all (self importet) mp3s in your itunes library, otherwise your whole itunes library will "brick"? i always thought that such behaviour will never come with apple. but now i am not sure anymore...

Bodypainter

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

Now then, deep breath.

This kinda sucks for the people who bricked their phones but won't hacker support be out very soon? I mean the way it normally works is as soon as something if "fixed" they find away around the fix. I mean look at the PSP for all examples. Every time there was a new firmware out, it would only take a few days to "re-hack" the system. I would bet we have people in the world that are close to fixing this problem soon.

Balance_In_Life (PSN)

i didnt update yet.. but then again, i'll prob wait till theres a work around..

good luck to all you bricked ppl out there!

kidnamedmoe

@grandmasterdibbler: the logic is only sound if it is true, and since it has been establish by the mac dev team that the updates DID NOT HAVE TO brick the phone, i.e. it was a choice by Apple, your reasoning sucks. they didn't mesh because apple didn't want it to.

youknowit

But hey, if Apple wants to destroy themselves, who are we to say no?

joe23521

jveigel

I find it interesting that when Nintendo delivered an arguably defective product (inadequate strap) people cried crazy foul over the ensuing litigation, but here, where Apple is well within its contractual rights and likely its rights under the UCC (Federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act) and state warranty laws, people are calling for blood. There is some sort of disconnect here in the public perception of rights.

Fait Accompli

Think about it!

nojust1

GizFanboy1978

Niam

You break your device, be prepared to be told to F**k off.

Niam

makes sense - buy something - break the terms and conditions - sue the manufacturer when that causes you problems

Great case!

iPhoney

mrrobotanger

OMG! Ponies!

And Brian, -1 for the 'indian givers' bit. Check the 5th Grade lingo if you're want to convince anyone that you're a professional journalist.

Symbiotic

These are the same asshats who felt they deserved the $200 rebate long after they had purchased it.

Niam

And you're trying to support a position where people have knowingly gone outside of their contracts, yet still expect Apple to say, 'never mind you're all forgiven'.

I'll have what ever you're smoking...

iPhoney

ChopSue-Me

Grandmasterdibbler

OMG! Ponies!

Seriously didn't think you would steep to this level.

google

Did he not notice the disclaimers from the hacked application developers about 'lack of function'

He's made is own bed, time to lie in it and stop whining.

Maybe he's done a few people a favor, and they'll think twice before following the non-approved hack heard.

iPhoney

Fly my pretty fly Fly FLY take away the souls of those who purchased the devices and burn thier faith in steve and apple. Keeehehehehe heeehehehe boil boil toil and trouble destroy the iphone on the double yaaaahahahahahahahaha

demonwolf