<![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @apeguero:

Yeah that happened to me. I was trying to get the drivers for XP, and suddenly when I tried to run the app it didn't work.
But I did manage to download it again from some mirror and it worked perfectly.
So you just have to google it, find a mirror and run it.

Jomi294

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @hakubak: I've seen that in a post on Gizmo. Try the search function.

TigerM

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> You missed this:
Scroll Non-Active Windows
Scroll any open window, even if it's not active. Simply position your mouse over the target window and scroll.

This feature is standard in Windoze. As a switcher, I'm happy to see it come to the Mac.

It's very annoying when I try to scroll down a window with the roller ball, but it doesn't work because I have to bring it forward first.

TigerM

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Almost all the accessibility options were previously unrevealed. Getting Braille displays to work - via plug 'n' play, and even during installation - is nothing short of miraculous.

Now to get blind people to stop pretending Macs aren't accessible. Wish us luck.

Joe Clark

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @hakubak: If you're looking for an RSS feed, you can use Yahoo Pipes to create one that filters out what you want.

macinjosh

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Best unpromoted, cool feature: Dictionary now does Wikipedia lookups. You can select a word anywhere and right-click it to look it up in Wikipedia, without even opening a browser.

itsgene

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> "no you are right. vista is very strict about the 1 per 1 thing and the family license is a steal for new installs. but i just think its a bit unreasonable to charge that much when you are already running the previous version of osx and the only changes i see are ui" - MWALKER05

Heh, a Vista user griping about Apple charging for an OS update this is mostly UI changes? HI-LARIOUS!

"seriously though, the stuff listed sounds like the free updates that come with most software." - MWALKER05

Yeah, I'm sure Microsoft didn't charge you for that XP-to-Vista upgrade either, right?

Winbots should think before they post.

LagunaSol

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Semi-funny.

I'll keep posting the same question.

hakubak

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @iHeartApple: Nice

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @hakubak: Alt Control Delete

i<3Apple

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Once again I'm asking nicely:

How do I engage the "No Apple" and "No iPhone" filters on Gizmodo?

This is a serious question. I've stopped bitching about the over-coverage while I'm waiting for an answer. I've posted the same question 3 times now with no answer. The help file doesn't help.

hakubak

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Been using the developer builds and there is a noticeable speed increase over Tiger on the same hardware. Overall, the new system is a bigger step than the Panther to Tiger leap. Apple's pricing model is and has been reasonably priced, incremental (pretty big increments) OS upgrades on a relatively frequent schedule, with excellent multi-computer licensing terms (Family Pack). Easy decision.

jeffw

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @NcSchu: "I notice that Apple has moved away from the translucent menu bar. I wonder if this will still be an option."

Moved away? Hardly. That ass-backwards idea is still affecting usability whether you want it or not (until, like the pinstripes before, it gets removed in 10.8 or so).

"The new desktop has a semitransparent menu bar and a reflective 3D Dock that perfectly frame your desktop picture [...]"

Yeah, that's what's been getting in the way of my productivity... an imperfectly-framed desktop picture.

someToast

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @longshot: See, Leopard at least isn't a major leap BACKWARDS. Vista is, in so so many tragic ways. I'm a Windows user, so it's especially painful to know that at some point I'm either gonna have to move to Vista or elsewhere unless MS creates a worthwhile OS in record time.

@aec007: You really shouldn't be popping Quaaludes before you go to Staples... that's the only way a 1.2Ghz Celery proc would seem fast on ANYTHING. Leopard will run much like Tiger did. Unlike MS, Apple didn't f*ck the donkey and totally screw up their next OS. Not to say they won't in the future (or haven't in the past... (System 7.5 anyone?)

Buford T. Justice

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @Kaiser-Machead:
@itchytooth:
@x23:

EXACT-O-MUNDO my friends... My point exactly.

To all those MAC fanatics that ridiculed VISTA as a bloaded OS, a resource hog, eye candy only, not as secure as XP, etc...etc.. etc...
You couldn't be so wrong.
I've seen at STAPLES PCs running Vista Basic, (all the same basic functionality - none of the eye candy) on 1.2 GHz Celerons that will smoke many MAC Laptops of the same core speed. (just go to the store and look)

I would like to see if all those that upgrade to Leopard and find their machines are not to par with the specs, will also complain about it.

aec007

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I am going to get this for the (horribly named) spaces feature. It really irks me that they say this is only for OSX, though... I had been using the same feature in Ubuntu with Beryl (until it stopped working of course, but you know).

The rest of the stuff seem fun but silly. But I am the type that manages all my files precisely, turns off all the fancy visual effects, and manages mostly freeware software.

The Finder path bar will also end one of my primary frustrations in OSX.

I guess I am not in the primary market. I don't use iMail or iChat. Coverflow has always annoyed me (mostly because I couldn't find art for a lot of the albums I own). So yeah, I guess spaces is worth $129 to me, but I don't feel good about it.

p.s. Mail Stationary = Ewwwwww

Uglyshoe

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Although I'm not getting it immediately (I'm putting it on my X-mas wish list), $129 seems pretty reasonable for what Apple's offering. AFAIK, Leopard is the least expensive version of UNIX out there. I'm not talking about OSes that sort of resemble UNIX, like Linux, I'm taking about real, honest-to-goodness, dyed-in-the-wool UNIX.

Trocar Jockey

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> There goes my $100 iPhone credit.

I've been waiting for this puppy.

NotMe

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I don't care about anything that's wrong with it. I'm happy with what they added and fixed so I'll gladly spend the $129 for it. Anybody who thinks otherwise can go suck a big fat one.

CarbonatedWater

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]>

Isn't this the MAC OS version thatn won't run on older MACs because of piss poor performance?
I wonder if MAC addicts will wait for SP1 before using it.
Would anyone complain that it is just a cosmetic upgrade with eye candy with no real value over the previous version?

I probably won't wait, but I have a new MBP.

Regarding performance: I had a Titanium PowerBook when 10.3 came out. The laptop had come installed with 10.2, so I was a little worried about what 10.3 would do to my performance. I was pretty shocked to discover that it ran noticably faster, in pretty much every respect.

Given that, I'm not at all surprised to see a report like Toastercookie's above about the relative speed of the OS getting faster. I know that the system requirements must logically be getting steeper, but when I moved from 10.2 to 10.3 it got faster, and it didn't get any worse moving to 10.4. I'm really looking forward to 10.5.

sammy baby

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> If you would like to get a Mac like icon interface use the program RocketDock [rocketdock.com]
it is great... also try Yod'm for a cool cube like interface such as the one in Linux...
[www.crystalxp.net]

Nakamuri

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I hope they made Mail actually work with an Exchange server. Mine is really sucking big time. I move messages from the inbox, and they move on the exchange server, but they still show up in the inbox of the exchange server. Don't make me rely on Entourage... and my iPhone needs it fixed too.

jrog

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> dont forget the dual 32 - 64bit Processing upgrade! thats nice

Zahada

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Maybe is slipped in with an update at some point, but my Address Book already synchronizes with Yahoo!

Dragonslayer

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Seems like there's some confusion about the family pack. It's not for business use. It's also not for your family members or friends who don't live with you.

"The Family Pack Software License Agreement allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-labeled computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household and used by persons who occupy that household. By "household" we mean a person or persons who share the same housing unit such as a home, apartment, mobile home, or condominium, including student members who are primary residents of that household but reside at a separate on-campus location. This license does not extend to business or commercial users."

maxgraphic

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @All
It's all opinion at the end of the day. I do need to give Vista more credit, but most of the features are still way too muted for me. Why is "virtual desktops" relegated to a "power toy" in Windows? The biggest enhancement I've seen in Vista, that made me go "WOW", is the speech recognition. When people stop making fun of glitches, it's the most advanced and useful implementation I've ever seen. The grid controls and dictation are truly awesome. The Meeting Place and Live Meeting are also nice, Live Meeting more for its compatibility with previous Windows versions. Still more excited for Leopard though.

Cleverboy

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> All of you haters need to chill out. I've been using Leopard since the WWDC beta came out back in June. The truth is that it is a much more worthy upgrade than Vista was, which I wouldn't upgrade to even with a pirated copy.

The first and primarily biggest difference I see is that Leopard runs FASTER than Tiger. When I installed Vista on my desktop PC I had about a 25% speed decrease. In addition, all of the "UI" changes are really useful. The redesigned finder is wonderful, and being able to access network computers right there has come in handy more times than I can count. Stacks, while maybe not the most useful thing in the world, has still proven useful (especially the "downloads" one, as I can open my most recently downloaded file with two clicks).

Core animation will open up cool programming possibilities. FrontRow is now included on every copy (before you could just get it if you had an intel mac). Time Machine makes backups easy. Mail 3.0 is the best email client I've ever used.

The list goes on. Despite being able to pirate this if I wanted, I will buy a copy because I support Apple's effort to make this OS great. I won't even install a copy of Vista I got for free, as XP is a better OS. Sure, it might not be groundbreaking like OS 10.0 is, but Leopard still has a great deal of improvements that make it more than worth your $129.

Toastercookie

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Looking forward to the release on time - and Yoshi shaving his hair off and posting a link here on Giz. Almost too much excitement for one day!!

MINI Driver

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> OS X On-time Delivery. Can Microsoft say that?

scooterman

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> This looks like a typical W.o.W. update, no ground breaking advancements really being made here but a couple of lines of code here and there and HEAVY interaction with .mac to suck even more money out of you.

WD40

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> What about the improvements to XCode & Developer Tools?

Ungenious

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @x23: I know that Leopard won't run on G3's, which is why I pointed out that Vista will likely not run properly, or at all, on machines made around the same time as those Macs.

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> which apps acctually use core animation? and how smooth will it be?

thistle.john

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @Kaiser-Machead:

Ironic, because Vista would most likely choke any comparable computer to a G3 Mac of the same time frame, provided it even installs at all.

minimum requirements for Leopard do not include any G3 machines. Leopard requires at least an 867Mhz G4. no G3s.

granted ... an 867Mhz G4 machine would be around 4-5 years old at this point.

@aec007:

Would anyone complain that it is just a cosmetic upgrade with eye candy with no real value over the previous version?

no. because that would be factually incorrect.

@nachomaans:

The Back to my Mac feature ([www.apple.com], requires a .mac account) seems pretty cool. It's nothing that couldn't be done before (remote desktop/vnc) but it will be intuitive and easy.

it works fine on a local network without a .mac account. the .mac account presumably is needed for a Dyn-DNS-esque "directory" when trying to access remotely. which you could probably fake with either knowing your IP. using VPN. using Dyn-DNS.

x23

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @aec007: From some accounts on the InsanelyMac forums, 10.5 is faster than 10.4. I imagine the hardware restrictions are either artificial - to sell new Macs - or due to specific demands of things like Core Animation. But, if one could circumvent the hardware check, I bet Leopard would run fine on older G4s and maybe even G3s, just minus some effects.

itchytooth

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @nachomaans:
I am interested to see if Back to My Mac will work on the iphone/touch. Since they are technically running OSX and as some speculate a version of Leopard it would be amazing to be able to have access to your Mac at home on the go. I guess we can just dream, but Back on My Mac alone might make me keep my .mac account.

Mayor McRib

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Time Machine and the new voice alone (well, not alone, as a pair, I guess) are worth the price to me.

Honestly, if $129 makes you choke, how did you ever afford a Mac in the first place?

(Still don't like the look of the new Dock.)

TommySez

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Has anyone here beta tested 10.5 and used Pro Tools on it yet? I really need to know if Pro Tools will work right off the bat, also what about Reason 3.0 and Reason 4.0?

jim82488

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> ohohsefhheglshgsrl. Sorry. I was wiping drool off of my keyboard.

Khuluna

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @dagamer34: Time Machine would probably operate exactly as it would on desktops.

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @aec007: Ironic, because Vista would most likely choke any comparable computer to a G3 Mac of the same time frame, provided it even installs at all.

You're looking at this a bit too superficially. There's a lot under the hood that makes this a worthy upgrade.

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Leopard + MacPro (Intel Penryn) = Bliss

kaylix

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Just waiting for Leopard before doing a full reformat. Anyone know how Time Machine will work on laptops?

dagamer34

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @aec007: Read the list, there are many features worth upgrading for. All at a price thats very reasonable.

i<3Apple

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I'll have my boss buy the family pack for work and take an extra license home with me. Free Leopards, yaaaeeeey.

CT7

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Isn't this the MAC OS version thatn won't run on older MACs because of piss poor performance?

I wonder if MAC addicts will wait for SP1 before using it.

Would anyone complain that it is just a cosmetic upgrade with eye candy with no real value over the previous version?

aec007

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> yeh, i want some top secrets too!! this is abit disapointing... i was hoping for some amazing new apps... new iTunes, new Quicktime... theres till 10 days!!

thistle.john

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @alin0steglinski: Whoa, dude, what happened RE wheelchair? Email me.

Brian Lam

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Where is the TOP-Secret that Jobs talked about?

m_coffee

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Leopard's True 64bit + 5 Core 2 Duo Macs in the family = NO BRAINER!

carrvin8

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> That sounds great and all, but I'm not buying it unless it comes with a token keychain or mini bottle of vodka.

navvywavvy

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @apeguero:

At $129, you should just buy it.

cloudnine

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @sorrow24: Your Buddha-like calming post annoys the SHIT out of me!

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @alin0steglinski:

hahahaha.......x2.

morph3us

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> The Back to my Mac feature ([www.apple.com], requires a .mac account) seems pretty cool. It's nothing that couldn't be done before (remote desktop/vnc) but it will be intuitive and easy.

I never had to enter a serial number or to activate an Apple OS after install, and I suppose it will be the same with Leopard.

nachomaans

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> That's the spirit everyone. We can say how useless all the little aesthetics are, how perfectly fine the old O.S. is, how much of a waste of money it all is. But the sad fact remains that the same mantra could be applied to 90% of all software "updates" - but that doesn't make these updates worthless.

Compare the mac OS experience from 10 years ago with leopard, and you'll see amazing improvement. Compare windows 95 with vista, and you'll get a good laugh. Through all those updates however, most of the core experience remained the same (Apple's Dock, Windows Start Menu). The updates have been small, superficial, and sometimes helpful.

But in the end, it's all progress. Leopard is better then Tiger, even if by only a little. If you don't like the price, it's always your choice whether or not to upgrade, but stop complaining about progress (however little is made) and be glad. Life is much better when you're not pissed off all the time, trust me.

sorrow24

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @Cleverboy:
Well from a non-mac user it seems like I run into the same leopard screens all the time. And the improvements seem superficial or just unnecessary. I mean seriously, stacks? Whats so wrong with the standard hierarchy of file systems now. Do we need some hybrid file/folder. Nah.

longshot

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @Cleverboy: some of those "new" features are regurgitated from previous releases - example:

"Customize the look and feel of Terminal with new window settings. You can set the background color, text color, and opacity of your windows"

That is not remotely new.

Also, just because Vista is a piece of crap (and they did not fix the start menu, they obfuscated it, along with much of the OS, which I find ridiculous), doesn't mean we should praise Apple for providing and OS, which still lacks fundamental usability features available on winXP, Linux, BSD, and Solaris. I'm not saying to revolt or flame, but if something is missing from your workflow, don't gloss it over, go to apple.com/feedback and let them know.

devwild

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> SKREW THIS SHIT... IM TORRENTING IT...

alin0steglinski

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> CRAP! Reading down the comments, I wanted to do a preemptive strike and casually suggest that Leopard is a point release and not comparable to Vista (being a whole new OS). LOL. For the goof-nuts that say Vista is a whole new OS, I'd like to question them on how they define "whole new". The amusing difference between Vista and MacOS Leopard, is in my opinion, Apple's focus on making people more efficient and giving better tools with a clear value proposition. Meanwhile, Vista features dwell in areas most people don't care much about (however interesting), and fixing things that should have worked better for a while (like the Start Menu).
Right now, Time Machine and Spaces are big on the list of upgrade reasons for me. I like the BOLDNESS of Apple just saying... Look, we have over 300 new features. Here is a comprehensive list of them:
[www.apple.com]
Meanwhile, on Vista I'm running into the same screenshots over and over, trying to look for a decent reason to even consider it.

Cleverboy

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Glad to have a bunch of macheads in my family. We're just going to split a family pack amongst our machines, and because it's not just an upgrade pack, my sister's Panther-riding G4 Quicksilver will be getting it as well. Sweetness

Kaiser-Machead's LEGO WALL-E

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Finally! This will actually justify me buying an ACTUAL leopard...I hope he plays nice with the tiger that I already have...

Screen Name

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> That's nice, but how about doing something actually useful, like adding some options to finder to make it more functional (seriously, why do I still have to do a cp on the command line to merge a directory rather than it being an option on the overwrite dialog, and how about some file sorting options in column view, or better yet, something akin to a tree view so working amongst several file systems doesn't require as many windows)

devwild

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I notice that Apple has moved away from the translucent menu bar. I wonder if this will still be an option.

NcSchu

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> What I don't get is, if anyone thinks this is a terribly minor upgrade that it's not worth it, then don't buy it! Fortunately, there are usually very few compatibility issues with 3rd party hardware and software, so there is no pressure to buy or not buy Leopard, even years down the line when it seems everyone is using it.

Oh, and I've bought single and family OS licenses over the years, and from what I can tell, Apple goes by the honor system on this issue. And while I've not always been honorable, Apple certainly can't accuse me of not buying more than a fair share of Apple hardware and software.

liquidsoapdispenser

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @nightsky: If this helps, I've asked a couple of Apple Store employees and they have all said that Bootcamp will not stop working after Leopard is out. Your Windows partition will keep working just fine. It's just that if you ever need to re-do the whole Bootcamp thing then you won't be able to as it will be out of Beta and no longer supported. So, as long as you don't have to reformat your hard drive and do a fresh install then you should be just fine.

apeguero

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @NicleT:

That's an excellent point you make NICLET, if one is strapped for cash, just find 4 other Mac users in your family circle or friends and each ponies up $40.00 and blamo! A legit copy of Leopard for each.

apeguero

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @mwalker05: Seeing ui changes... What other changes would you 'see'? I guess when you get your copy you can go digging through the unix source code and see what kind of non-cosmetic changes have been made. Assuming you have a copy of Tiger to compare it to. I imagine comparing it to your Vista source code might prove harder.

gothfae

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> BIG question. I understand Boot Camp is part of 10.5, does this mean that the Beta version will now be disabled in 10.4, so tht you have to buy 10.5 for it to work again. I have not seen an answer to this anywhere.

nightsky

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> come on apple... 129 for an upgrade... argh cant get this for a while. i still need to get a 25,000 wheelchair... hmm... wheelchair or OS... easy one here... WHEELCHAIR!!! i want my fuxxing mobility back!

alin0steglinski

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @apeguero: no you are right. vista is very strict about the 1 per 1 thing and the family license is a steal for new installs. but i just think its a bit unreasonable to charge that much when you are already running the previous version of osx and the only changes i see are ui

Angus

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @mwalker05:
If by "whole new operating system" you mean that you will have be buy "whole new" hardware in order to use it you are absolutely correct. Make no confusion, comparing a service pack to 10.5 is insane. Vista may have been a whole new system, but what did it really bring to the table this is better than XP, aside from security updates?

Mayor McRib

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @mwalker05: Man you should do a little research before shouting out. Leopard is an entire OS as Apeguero said. No trying to be a prick or anything but this is a full release.

i<3Apple

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Trackback

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I just ordered a 5 licenses package for 199$ (226$ with F@$%#% canadian taxes) for whole the house here, I did this for Tiger and it is a very good deal: it's around 45$ for each computer for a brand new OS version upgrade... very good deal IMO.

NicleT

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Looking forward to buying some new Apple hardware with Leopard rolled in for free. Woot!

Also tried to install Vista on a new freshly built system and it wouldn't even install without crashing hard over and over. I finally gave up and now run XP, Kubuntu (on older laptops), and OS X. I may as well skip Vista entirely at this point. Glad to see Leopard finally (almost) here!

Windhawk

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @mwalker05:

You can install Leopard all on it's own. It won't require you to have Tiger in the System. It's a full blown OS not an upgrade.

You can't do that with a Vista Upgrade disk, right? I've heard before that one can install a Vista Upgrade on it's own, not register it and then re-install the same Vista Upgrade as an upgrade of the Upgrade you just installed (fuck that's messed up), then activate that. But it's not a stand-alone install. Correct me if I'm wrong. Either way, I'll buy one family license and play it legit for now.

apeguero

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @EMoShunz: [www.apple.com] is the update link, anything Oct 1 to Dec 29 can upgrade for $9.95.

EMoShunz

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @tamoko:

Thanks Tamoko. That's the same feeling I get too where I can get a 5 license package for $199 which is half of what Vista Ultimate is for just one license that gives you lots of crap if you change hardware or re-install too soon. I'll buy the family license. It looks like a good upgrade. I'll ask for the student discount and if worst comes to worst then I'll ask for the Military discount and get it for less.

apeguero

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @tamoko: vista is a whole new operating system. you are paying for an upgrade, something that microsoft does for free. also upgrading from xp to vista ultimate is only $250, not $400. just thought you should know that.

Angus

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @apeguero: Apple has yet to really verify valid installs in my experience although I still have purchased their OS since its well priced. The one way I do however think they do trace would be through the system update installs. Im sure that this gives them some type of information.

I personally ordered the Family pack for "mom, wife, sister and me" and at work here we ordered 6 Family packs since we have 28 Mac users that want to upgrade immediately. I say go with the Family pack.

i<3Apple

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @jamesr242: not just coverflow, there are approximately 25% more bells and 33% more whistles with this upgrade than the standard mac update. sure it doesn't really enhance the OS on a functionality level, but the aesthetics are to die for!

seriously though, the stuff listed sounds like the free updates that come with most software. only apple has decided to be an innovator here and charge an unreasonable price for it. you know, like they do for their hardware.

Angus

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I purchased an MB Pro that arrived in Sept. How much to upgrade to Leopard, if I'm a student?

Riemannian

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @apeguero: A family lisince might be the way to go...and no, Apple isn't quite as business friendly paranoid as Microsoft for verification of OS installs - i.e. no apparent "calling home"

@jamesr242: I don'y know, I think $129 is a steal, considering the stability of the OS and the interesting features added... and all of this for less then Vista Ultimates almost $400 dollars.

tamoko

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> If you bought your computer on or after October 1, you get Leopard for $9.95.

[www.apple.com]

Thataboy

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> you would have to be smoking some pretty strong stuff to pay that much for an OS upgrade. Regardless of whether its mac or pc, paying that much in additionn to the hardware us just nuts. What's so special about this update anyway? Coverflow?

jamesr242

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> I just realized we didn't get an update to quicktime.

MacBandit

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> The one and only copy of an OS I've ever purchased was Windows 3.11. I've since always upgraded at a 100% discount if you know what I mean, including Vista Ultimate. Being this my very first OS X upgrade, does Apple use ways to verify valid Leopard installs kind of like the Microsoft Genuine crap deal? Or should I follow my hunch and get a Family license?

apeguero

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @EMoShunz: I actually just got a replacement mac through Apple because my 3 year old G5 ran into issues. I directly asked the manager of support about the new OS and whether I would be able to receive it if I had purchased 1 month in advanced and I was told that there will most likely be an announcement on release that we can pickup a new copy free of charge.

i<3Apple

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Come on Steve, only a 10% discount for students? I'm poor. I remember paying only $79 for the student version of 10.4

YamIinLawSchool

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> great, coverflow out the wazoo!

phi

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> @EMoShunz: no, (i believe it's two weeks? - there may be some weird discount scale), but you could not feel as bad as, say, me, about torrenting it.

nachobel

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Does this mean if I just purchased last week 3 Apples with 10.4, I can upgrade for free to Leopard (pay for shipping)?

EMoShunz

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> System requirements: 1.21 gigawatts!

I just got a new Macbook Pro and I'm glad to see that they offer a $10 upgrade for recent buyers. Now I can sit back and watch how Leopard fares before potentially messing up my system with a slightly-less-than-stable OS revision.

glebec

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Has anyone on Giz been a beta tester to attest to the stability of the OS? Normally I wait for a .1 upgrade, but I got 10.4 (no update) and it was fairly stable.

Joseph

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> Hmm, OK...I'll wait like 1 or 2 months before going out and grabbing this.

STPGoose

]]> <![CDATA[What's New-New in Mac OS X Leopard's 300+ Feature List]]> excellent! Where are the Cinema Display updates!? Damn you mac rumors!

Joseph

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