johnnyabnormal

scoopy

ssuasw

If you are a OSX user, more power to you.
If you are a WINDOWS user, more power to you.
If you are a LINUX user, dude you just plain rock.

And what's with all the VISTA complaints, I've found it to be 100 times better than XP and more stable indeed. Vista is much more ahead of XP than Leapord is ahead of Tiger. Gotta hand it to Apple though, time machine rocks. Anyone know which linux app they copied that from? Sorry, couldn't resist :P

stallionz

foureight84

foureight84

censored? no. we're just saying: if we wanted to hear about every single little piece of mac news, we would read a mac news blog. i thought this was a general tech/gadget blog. it honestly seems like giz delivers mostly apple news these days.

theorie

cazoo

gwolf

Demeth

i'd rather dual boot hack osx on my pc then pay for a way overpriced apple computer and boot camp vista on it. sure, its a bigger pain in the ass to do, but at least you learn something about computers in the process, instead of being the adverage ignorant mac fan that has apple hold their hand for everything computer related. : )

djfoxx64

lafond66

Im going to start hacking thousands of OLPC's to run leapord and selling them on ebay for 699$ a piece

ivealwaysgotmail10

Pender

Perhaps all those fans who run Leopard on their PCs will one day decide it's great enough to buy a real Mac.

Browzilla

@BensAngel: PC = Personal Computer. so yes Mac's are PCs.

xtc46

BensAngel

So new Mac = PC?

BensAngel

kittenman

johnnyabnormal

"Of course, none of that crap can deflect the fact that you are completely wrong about what you and Pender stated."

If you take one minute.. maybe it might take you two minutes... to actually read those two sentences that I wrote and you cited, you would see that I was being completely and utterly sarcastic (hence my suggestion that your sarcasm detector wasn't working too well) and that I was making fun of what Pender said. I mean did you know that Halo 3 is, in fact, locked into the X-Box 360?

Relax, kid, and go get that coffee of yours.

Dearhaw

Anyway, the Giz should be even handed with coverage, but then if something truly kicks ass then I can see why they would be excited about it...regardless of it being Apple or not. If there isn't a way to filter out all Apple related news for those who don't want to read it, there should be.

johnnyabnormal

johnnyabnormal

I'll look into the filter. I like Giz, I've just been getting tired of the constant Apple/iPhone articles.

I do read some of the Leopard posts, primarily for the reason you mentioned: curiosity. But I skip over the majority of these posts just because I find they all generally seem to contain the same information rewritten a few different ways.

And I've got no beef with Jobs, aside from all the benevolent attention given to him by his fanboys. Might as well start calling him Job...

But a pie-in-the-face I would pay to see. Better yet, a pie war between Jobs and Gates. That'd be quality Pay-Per-View material.

modernrocko

Pender said:

"Don't worry, v.10.5.1 will brick them. It's all part of Uncle Steve's plan."

You responded to Pender with:

"Yeah, so totalitarian of them trying to lock down an OS that is constantly being improved upon for the sole purpose of selling their own hardware (as opposed to Dells, HPs, and DIYs), using R&D money generated through said hardware sales. I mean that would be like Microsoft trying to lock Halo 3 into the X-Box 360! Preposterous!"

I don't care what "side" you're on, because I'm not on one. If Apple pulls a douche bag move (bricking iPhones) they deserve to be dissed. In this case, you're both writing fiction since Apple has never bricked a desktop or laptop for using an unauthorized single license of version of OSX.

Instead of responding to my "wtf?" you attempted to deflect the issue by trying to bad point out grammar skills, calling me a troll, and idiot, etc. Of course, none of that crap can deflect the fact that you are completely wrong about what you and Pender stated. Just have some humility and own it because you don't have a shred of evidence to stand on.

@modernrocko: I'm pretty sure you can filter out things like iPhone articles on the Giz. Maybe even Apple news in general? Plus, there are plenty of other gadget blogs on the intertubes. If the Giz wrote a huge amount of articles about Vista, I'd still read 'em even though I don't use it...just out of curiosity. But, if you REALLY don't like Apple in general, you could track down Steve Jobs and even the score with a Bill Gates style pie to the face.

johnnyabnormal

Do a search for Apple and you'll find the first 30 results only date back to the 25th. Three days ago. Over thirty results for Apple in three days. C'mon, do we need a new post every time a tiny bit of new information is released about Leopard, or the iPhone?

"Leopard is coming!"
"Leopard is almost here!"
"Leopard soon, more info released!"
"Leopard is here! omg!"
"Steve Jobs wipes with Charmin!"
"Do u like ur iphone circle one: yes/no"

What about the new HTC phones? More multi-functional and feature-packed, but because they don't have multi-touch or a "fancy" onscreen keyboard, they don't merit posts?

I know you're excited, giz, but I'm reminded of my seven year old nephew when any new videogame he's interested in is about to be released. I never hear the end of it, and that gets old incredibly quickly. It's obvious that you like the products Apple is releasing, but broaden your horizons a little bit. Get rid of the tunnel vision. Please?

modernrocko

akira_santiago

"It's a safety blanket to help PC users feel 'safe' when they switch to Mac"

All right, big Mac fan here, but that's just wrong.

Before I bought my Intel iMac, I HAD to have a PC so that i could use the following (non-gaming) software: ESRI ArcGIS, Golden Software Surfer, and AutoCAD (with SurvCADD module). There's is very little chance than any of those will get ported (back) to the Mac any time soon, and there really are no equivalents to them (don't start me on GRASS), so I am very happy to have Parallels (now moving over to VMWare) on my Intel Macs.

And, when I'd hit the road for a prolonged period, I used to carry around 2 laptops. Now all I need is my MacBook. Now THAT is a killer feature, that's not just a safety blanket.

Dearhaw

So just because Apple are kicking butt with lots of new gadgets - you think that posting about them should be censored in some way?

I'm sure if Dell, or HP, or any PC manufacturer was delivering as many new products to market as Apple, we'd be seeing a corresponding quantity of posts about their products.

Fact is - those PC manufacturers are not delivering much.

If you're just pissed because Apple are being successful, then don't go blaming Giz - go get a life elsewhere!

MINI Driver

It's a safety blanket to help PC users feel 'safe' when they switch to Mac

Eventually of course you grow out of the need for it! LOL

MINI Driver

Dearhaw

pkizzle

"Aside from HTTP server, I have seen no equivalent to mac for the others"

Yeah! Do Macs have (S)TP servers!?? I bet they don't, although I've never looked into the issue. And...and..yeah, what about mail servers! And WebDAV servers! And, and, Samba and and, what other servers are there? Oh yeah, First Class, KDX, Hotline, do Macs have any of those servers?? I really doubt it. And, oh yeah, really important one, what about an Icecast (or equivalent MP3) server? Macs are so retarded, I bet they don't have those either.

Dearhaw

can you say 50% world market share?

alin0steglinski

Victor V.

theorie

I mean, it's apple-fanboyness and selfishness to deny it for PC users, while MAC can have both.

"If they can do it, why not us?"

Victor V.

no thanks

theorie

you really might as well start advertising yourselves that way, because that's what giz is becoming. apple and mac news with occasional gadget updates.

gg. off to engadget.

modernrocko

niravabhavsar

FYI, Apple also releases security updates and patches periodically.

There is no software program available for PCs that doesn't either either work on Macs or have a Mac equivalent.

Apple doesn't follow the same numbering scheme for OSX as other software companies do. A .x upgrade from Mac is the same as a full number upgrade for Windows. When Apple does a full number upgrade it represents a complete look/organization/philosophy change. I've been using Macs through System 7, OS8, OS9 and OSX and changing to OSX was like learning a whole new operating system on a whole new platform. When Apple decides to go to OS11 I'm assuming it will represent a whole new direction for the company.

Other than changing the look of the Windows interface and making the OS more powerful and/or stable and offering some new features what does a full version upgrade of Windows change? I say this not to pick on Windows but to point out that Microsoft and Apple have a different idea of what a full version upgrade means. They can't be compared.

rsquared

For a while now bub for a while! Ppl have been running Tiger on PCs for ages!

MMFY

'Once you've tried Mac, you'll never go back!'

MINI Driver

hatchetman751

Personally i would be more inclined to install a new linux distro than leopard. They would offer me more.

prodigal_son

Heck I built a little machine specifically to mess with Ubuntu Linux, so how much of a stretch could this be?

It sounds like fun!

strider_mt2k

alin0steglinski

Coop

Oh..oh.. I get it, you're one of those guys that pose as an Apple fanboy and pretend you're an idiot, but in reality you're just a troll. Trying to make us real Apple users look bad.

Ahh, shit, who am I kiddin'? Gotta accept the fact that there are plenty of idiots like you among Mac users.

Seriously, dude. Go back and re-read what I wrote and try to figure out whose 'side' I'm on.

Dearhaw

tiger had a special kext script that prevented you from simply installing apple software on non-apple computers

discounteggroll

I'm perfectly happy with Vista.

Mio

I bet it's a bit more than sticking a disc in, in whice case, I do not care.

Collins1

Palestina

Palestina

yogibimbi

mecika

Dearhaw's truth detector today: 1/10
Dearhaw's OS X comprehension skills: 0/10
Dearhaw's mental age: pre-pubescent

johnnyabnormal

Johnnyrandom's sarcasm detector today: 3/10
Johnnyrandom's English comprehension skills: 2/10

"Your mom?"

Johnnyrandom's mental age: 13-16

Dearhaw

daftrok

johnnyabnormal

bdkennedy1

Leopard will be slow on old hardware too. Tiger is slow as crap on anything below 1ghz PC with less than 512mb ram.

I won't be upgrading my 3 powerbooks to leopard, they will stay tiger. I will be upgrading my macbook pro to leopard though since it already has the hardware to handle it.

But upgrading an OS on old equipment is a lost cause. Save your money for a new system.

Syndication

by TEEXCUE:
And I prefer paying $130 every 1 to 2 years to have an updated computer rather than waiting 6 years and finally getting an update for $400 =]

I really don't care one way or the other...but I'm all about numbers, and I don't like when they aren't right:

1) Vista doesn't cost $400 unless you don't know better. Any mentaltard can go on NewEgg, buy a $2 cable to qualify for OEM software, and get Vista Home Premium for $112 or Vista Ultimate for $180. (You'll notice I left out Home Basic, because most people agree it's pretty well neutered).

2) You seem to be saying the Apple OS system offers some financial benefit...but your math works out lousy. If you're willing to spend $130 every 1.5 years to upgrade the same machine for 6 years, you're spending 4x130 = $520 on new OS's AFTER your original purchase. To me, that's a lot. That's a whole computer for 95% of the "Dell" population. I build my own computers, and $500 goes a long way there too.


Mac or PC, I've never really seen the point in upgrading the OS on a machine that's working. I am a bit careful with money...but it just seems like there isn't much to gain by upgrading the OS of an old machine, and there's always the risk of getting slow performance with a new OS on old hardware. Just wait until your current machine is too slow for you, then get a new one with whatever OS suits you best at the time. For me, that time line ends up being about 4-5 years...so Mac or PC, there'd be a new OS available and who cares if there were a couple versions I missed?

EQC

Podesta

I would love to be able to install OSX on my custom built desktops but without the driver problems and stability headaches the hacked versions create. Unfortunately, I really don't see Apple letting it happen (at least anytime soon).

gapingLotus

Yeah, so totalitarian of them trying to lock down an OS that is constantly being improved upon for the sole purpose of selling their own hardware (as opposed to Dells, HPs, and DIYs), using R&D money generated through said hardware sales. I mean that would be like Microsoft trying to lock Halo 3 into the X-Box 360! Preposterous!

Dearhaw

andrelix

Pender

Lastly, no key. Apple relies on people doing the right thing, and paying for the upgrade. It a good model. I like companies that put "trust" before drm.

DeadWriter

can anyone try to find out if leopard can be cracked for my computer? i have an athlon 64 2.0GHz venice core, and 1GB of value RAM because i'm a poor fuck.

rimplestultskin

GrooveG

Crazysamz

Husher

Dickey

Husher

rainsfather

zoomie

this is totally safe to do without destroying the time-space continuum as long as you don't accidentally prevent your parents from meeting and you have a power supply that's rated for more than 1.21 jiggawatts.

ScotteusMaximus

DJJS

Tiger was hacked just weeks after Jobs announced they were moving to Intel processors. Tons of people have been using OSX on their beige box PC's since before Apple even sold Intel based Macs.

zoomie

on topic: i wonder how long it will be before apple sends in a crack team of commando lawyers to bankrupt anyone associated with this. i've never read the os-x EULA but given that apple is a big mean corporation i'd be willing to bet you can't do this legally.

oldmanstan

rfayed

:p

jbhitter24

slingblade

Wegmans

Can you install on the same hard drive? or do you need to do it on a separate one? If so then this is very old news..

I'm hoping it's possible for a dual boot

Wegmans

pocketcowboy

erockO

teexcue

Boognish

FubarGuy

DesiBoi

takemetoyourtoaster

MaxRC

Can't we all just get a long?

spock11384

QWERTYthon

There is going to be a new DVD that's going to be put out tomorrow (on various outlets) that's going simplify this even more (Straight install with bootable DVD), and is going to fix the Time machine issue as well.

So if you really wanna steal OSX, just wait. However, getting a Mac would be the easiest and most legal way to use OSX, so I would just go for that. :-)

innerlogic

Peppie

SchruteBuck

And yes, I agree, PC users really don't deserve it.

rokus

procon.1

SUFFER!!

- Xidius

Xidius