<![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks? - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks? - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I've now lost data to this Seagate firmware 7.01 issue not once, but twice in the last six months. How is this not being handled differently by Seagate? How is there no consumer revolt, no class action lawsuit? Why do I need to pay as much as $2,700 to try to recover some of my data? Why is this not getting more coverage? Jason.

SadhikaStevenson

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Seagates actually have a better hard drive than Western Digital. Western Digitals are known to have manufacture defects on most of their hard drives (their read and write heads crash because the acutator arm can get unalligned real easily; also the seal on the actual hard drive on Western Digitals was known to have a defect in it a couple years back, they never fessed up to it "officially" but if you called the manufacturer and bitched about it they would exchange it out fo ryou. As for this instance I seriously think that it would probably be on Apple's end(whether from the heat or not) not on Seagate's end.

DataRecoveryGuru

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Bought: 6-29-06
Died: 11-5-06 ---- 4 months 7 days till death
Replaced: 11-20-06
Died: 1-14-08 ---- 13 months 24 days till death

Both Seagate

petersrin

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> macbook drive just bit it. all fixes no good. haven't backed up in a while cuz i'm a ...well...
should i just keep it as a paperweight and hope that someday i can get something off it? or am i just screwed.
apl care guy says apple does data recovery...they would give me a quote.... anyone know how steep they are and will they be able to do anything that i didn't already? pro services quoted me1000 to 2500 USD. i'm in pain. it hurts. considering putting HD in the freezer now...



lukeb

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> My macbook hard drive failed 3 days ago, model seagate fw 7.01 60gb. Ive owned the computer for 1 year and 2 weeks, so the apple warranty has run out. But Maine has a really cool implied warranty act I may be able to use, which states all products must last for a reasonable amount of time based on the products expected life. I replaced it today with a western digital 120gb. Im going to contact apple soon.

tribedescribe

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> And yet another! My daughther's MacBook died tonight... froze...clicked... showed a folder with a question mart when I tried DiskWarrior. Fortunately she had saved her graduate school paper on gmail! We'll be off to the apple store tomorrow! This is UNbelievable!

vsmalkin

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Add another dead firmware 7.01 drive. Fortunately, I don't use a mac, but on attempting to run a data recovery given to me, I found it to be another one of these drives. China, 80GB. Spin up, three clicks, power off, then dead. Awesome.

APOLAUF

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Ooops. Correction: WD's new drive is 320 gb.

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> While going through my bag I found a print out of my most recent macbook hard drive casualty. Turns out it has firmware version 3.04... so much for that theory. New theory: Seagate's Momentus SATA series of drives suck.

fallenturtle

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @x23: Hmmm. Well, I just got wind of a new 2.5 inch Western Digital 350 gb drive I'm going to look into soon. I'm not sure I want to sit around and wait for my Seagate to crap out on me.

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @johnnyrandom: looking through my Apple invoices... looks like January 2007 is when i got it. and it died in early July. it was still under warranty obviously but i needed it fixed ASAP not in a week or else i would have had Apple take care of it.

i ordered 3 more MacBooks in mid-August... and of the one currently remotely accessible to check... it has a Hitachi drive in it.

x23

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @louiedog: Time Machine relies on Core Animation, so it's unlikely that Apple will release a Tiger version. Perhaps some enterprising hacker can manipulate the code to make a Tiger-compatible command line version, but I'm afraid the UI (arguably the most important part of Time Machine) wouldn't come along for the ride.

jopari

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Trackback

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @louiedog: How about they offer up new drives instead!?

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> A friend of mine has had two go bad on her now. Apple should offer Time Machine as an update for all MacBooks not running Leopard if they're giving out bad drives. They won't, but they should.

louiedog

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> When my original MBP 100G harddrive died back in April, I brought it to the
professional data-rescue company to try to recover the data. The guy
told me he received quite a lot of dead Seagate HDs (of the same
model) that past few weeks... so I guess I'm not alone.

However until now, there's still no major recall for the HD, probably because going public will harm Seagate and Apple company image?




anflam

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> My wife's macbook failed just 3 weeks ago. Just as described. She lost 3 days worth of work, just as we were backing up to our desktop. Fortunatly it was still under waranty. I wish we had heard about this sooner!

Set to evil

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I got a MacBook one year ago and promptly installed a 160 GB Seagate Momentus HDD myself. No problems yet, but I want to check the firmware number regardless.

Disk Utility does NOT display the firmware number.

System Profiler does NOT display the firmware number.

Perhaps a magical elf displays the firmware number. I don't know.

incomebum

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I read the posts. They didn't help me much. I haven't had the problem you're describing, but I'd like to avoid it if possible. Which Hitachi model crapped out on you?

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I bought it in May, first week they were out, Coconut Battery says my Macbook is 19 months old, and my serial starts with 4H619. Like i said above, check those forums on Apple dot com, its all over the place for early adopters of Macbooks

Loru

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @x23: When did you buy your MBP? I'm still trying to figure out what firmware mine has without opening the damn thing up.

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> The seagate drive on my macbook crashed on the last day of May of this year. I kept the drive as a paperweight and just took a look at it. Sure enough, it's the Made in China/7.01 drive. Originally, I thought it was something I did that caused the drive to crash. Well, I still could have, but it seems less likely now.

vpc

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> weird. i'm replacing a Seagate Momentus right this moment. from a Powerbook though. and not a SATA drive.

normally when Deathstars died... (and i have a stack of 15-20 to know they do) i could at least recover 99.8% of the important data. on this Seagate today... NOTHING. like to all machines concerned i am merely plugging in an empty USB cable. nice.

even better? it died *during* a recycle back up. meaning it's gone gone gone. got 45% of the data recovered... and it is all like Applications i could easily reinstall. User folders are hosed.

in addition... my MacBook had its original stock drive die within like 6 months. i couldn't wait for Apple to mail/return it so i just bought a new drive. almost positive it was a Seagate though.

x23

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @slaughter: Uh, if it's the fault of Seagate, then hate them, not Apple. Or get an exchange + check the lemon laws in your country/state. No amount of hate is going to bring a HD back to life. Back up your stuff everyday and take action.

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> This is just another recent problem with Apple products, yet, no one says a thing. Dell has a shipping delay and internet forums and headlines act like the world is coming to an end. I HATE APPLE!!!

Slaughter

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @Loru: Hey. Can you give some info on your approximate serial number range (not exact, X out the last few numbers for your privacy) so I can check mine against yours? Did you buy yours in May or was that when it was manufactured? I had a Powerbook G4 that used to fry out ram slots over and over. I got my MacBook Pro in September and I'm going to be pissed as hell if I've bought another glitched laptop. My G5 Quad works like a champ though...no complaints there.

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Both drives on my laptop are Western Digital. As for where to check, one can go to the Disk Utility, as noted above, or one can go to "About this Mac" and check ATA and S-ATA.

For those of us running more than one HD in an Apple laptop, we could only hope to figure out the firmware (if Seagate had a utility) on the primary drive, but not the secondary (which can't report firmware or S.M.A.R.T status).

DeadWriter

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Hmm, this news comes as seagate close down a factory in the UK to put more of them in china..

Me thinks the money would be better spent keeping the UK plant open.

prodigal_son

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> APPLE IS DOING NOTHING ABOUT THIS!!! AND ITS NOT JUST SEAGATES....I am on my 7th one! Apple just says replace the harddrive...yeah...cause that will solve the problem. I have a first run (may 2006) Macbook Core Duo and MANY MANY MANY users on the Apple support forums are having the problems with ALL brands of HDDs. Mine has killed 5 Seagates and 1 Hitachi, Please help spread the word on this for a hopefull recall...

Loru

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> FALSE!!! this problem is not JUST affecting Seagate Harddrives. I am on harddrive # 7 of my first run Core Duo Macbook (May 2006). Most were Seagate harddrives, but my most recent failure was a Hitachi. All result in head failure totally at random... PLEASE DIGG THIS TO LET APPLE DO SOMETHING! just search the Apple support forums for Hard Drive Failure in the Macbooks Section: [discussions.apple.com]

Loru

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Just checked the dead drive I pulled from my MacBook about 3 weeks ago and it's a Seagate Momentus - right at the bottom of the sticker on the drive is "FW 7.01".

In an external case, the best I can get is 3 hard clicks and a lot of spinning. Will not mount, and after reading this - no chance of any data recovery.

Cripes.

kzoonut

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @discounteggroll: Yeah, that is the system profiler. No dice. It isn't listing firmware, only the HD model number.

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Hm, my Four-month-old Macbook definitely has a Seagate drive, but the firmware says 3.CAE so I'm guessing it's safe from this problem.

NcSchu

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Generally I think class-action lawsuits are a bunch of BS... but considering the value to me of all the personally photography (not porn) I lost during the last crash, I'm starting to think differently. I wish I knew what the firmware version was on those drives.

fallenturtle

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @aec007:

I'm not defending the Umbrella corp in regards to your comment, but apple only makes one of the products you post flaws about, and they already resolved that issue

discounteggroll

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Batteries exploding, power connectors burning, BSODs on installs and now firmware flaws and HD crashes?.
This can't be happening.... MACs are supposed to be perfect right out of the box!

Or at least that's what all fanboys say anyway...


aec007

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I am a tech at a private school. all the students 7-12th grade are required to buy laptops, and about ~70% buy macbooks, 20% get lenovos and the remaining 10% get dell/hp/etc. There has been a surprising rise in "random" hard drive crashes, and a lot of them have been these momentus drives, so move over Hitachi deathstar.

you can see the firmware revision by going to the Apple button-> "about this mac"->more info->"Serial-ATA" under the hardware section

Good luck and back the F*CK , regardless of what drive you have

discounteggroll

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @bitgod: Supposedly, it's not the hardware, it's the firmware that is causing this craptastic problem. I can't check firmware from disk utility either. Blech. Seagate offers a diagnostic tool for Windoz and Linux. Douche bags.

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @NcSchu:

Go into your Utilities folder (inside the Applications folder), open up Disk Utility. You'll see your drives listed on the left side. I just checked mine, it's a Toshiba, whew. I've been hearing about a lot of macbook drives failing, I wonder if it was just from this or multiple things.

bitgod

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Seagate douchebaggery! I know my MacBook Pro has a Seagate st9160823as 160 gb drive in it. I'm looking all over the place (the "tubes", system profiler, diskwarrior, hardware monitor) and can't find the firmware number. Anyone know a quick way to get that info?

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Son of a-- The 2.5" Seagate drive in my Mac Mini died just over a month ago, and sure enough it is 7.01. It was working just fine with no signs of trouble and then overnight just up and died, no recovery program has been able to retrieve a single byte. The sad thing is it died at about a year and a half old--the age I often warn people laptop drives only last till.

jwardell

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Wow...crazy timing! I am currently replacing a said Chinese Seagate drive w/ said firmware version 7.01 that failed w/ no chance of recoverable data. Hopefully Apple will do the right thing here (even though said co-worker is not under warranty).

djfp

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I'll have to check the dead drive I extracted from my MacBook many months ago... I decided to replace it myself when it died since I had access to it and I wanted a bigger drive...

Bobby T.

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> How exactly do you find information about your hard drive with OS X?

NcSchu

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @fallenturtle: The main source of heat in a Macbook is around the rear, away from the hard drive. Along the front end, there's no substantial amount of heat being emitted.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I have a first gen Macbook and it had a Seagate drive until I came home one day and it had the no drive image on the boot up screen, this was like a month after my warranty went up too, so I hope Apple extends the hard drive warranty.

suprememilo

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> While I'm not using the OEM Seagate drive that came with my MacBook, I am using a Seagate HD in my MacBook that's from the exact same series of SATA drives (it was cheaper to buy it separately then to get the upgrade with my MacBook). That said, I'm now on my 2nd one of these drives as the first two died with less than a year of life on them. Both exhibited clicky and whiny noises, so I'm fairly sure its something with the heads. Perhaps there's a connection? I always thought it was because the MacBook was too hot and Apple hadn't fessed up or made the connection.

fallenturtle

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @pagercam: I assume so too, the entire sentence is a mess - "Apparently these have a fatal flow [flaw?] that cause[s?] their read/write heads to fail mechanically..."

BensAngel

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> i didn't realize this was even a problem these days... now i feel scared, almost scared enough to pay money for software to backup my files... or i could just use a shell script, yep, i'll do that for free :)

oldmanstan

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> That would have been useful... last year when my seagate drive crashed.
The Fujitsu I put in is louder, but at least it's not going to self-destruct as much (knock on wood).

rfaulder

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> I assume that "fatal flow" should be "fatal flaw"

pagercam

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> lol i hope SeaGate's external hard drives are flawless, and if u have it for ur Time Machine backup ^_^ BOo~

kittenman

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> @MagicMT: The natural progression of porn storage. Truth has been spoken.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Glad to be using a Toshiba right now.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> nudie videos > nudie photos

MagicMT

]]> <![CDATA[Seagate 2.5-inch Hard Drive Flaw Affecting MacBooks?]]> Whew, I'm safe. Besides I have Time Machine so I'm super safe. It's fun showing off Leopard's Extra Greatness.

CarbonatedWater

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