madmacks

madmacks

madmacks

You are still wrong. 1080i doesn't have 1080 vertical lines. It has 540. So you are right that there are few "native 1080i" televisions. That barely makes sense. HDTVs almost always support up to 720 vertical lines, where 1080i is either UPSCALED or shown in "native 540".

dyeostyn

Thanks. I do understand the aspect ratio. But I was surprised that I still did not detect any visible improvement in quality between a 720p HD cable signal at 16:9 and the allegedly 1080p signal at 1.78:1 (my PS3 is set to HDMI/1080p). I still wonder if the movie output is really 1080 lines.

What is a good 16:9 1080p movie to test with? Any suggestions?

Thanks again.

Vagabum

k3n85

rumba101

arkowi

Optimistic Prime

Bethany Homes and 19th didn't seem to know what I was talking about but did conform they will be having a Black Friday sale tomorrow and every Friday through out the month, but didn't know what those items were yet.

MarkHawk

teexcue

Many films are in the 2.35:1 ratio, meaning you'll have letterboxing on your TV. Another common aspect ratio is 1.78:1. The aspect ratio is listed on the back of DVDs in the lower left corner.

Also, check the settings of your player. Perhaps it's outputting at 720p.

God made the pretty girls pretty because he likes them more

The letterboxing isn't going to go away. Most films are not filmed in a 16x9 aspect ratio.

robinandtami

Husher

Vagabum

Haha I have to agree with you on that.

@chuckwrona:

Had I left the last word or paragraph out of that post, it wouldn't have seemed nearly as angry as it did. I posted in haste, and went back to change it, but alas the Giz won't let one do that. My apologies for coming off as the true jackass.

I just get irritated when people jump on others for being "uninformed", then don't bother to back up their burn. The fact remains that there are, in fact, very few native 1080i TV's out there, as he said. We're agreed that the post was essentially worthless. My point was simply that yours didn't contain anything particularly more substantial.

ggraves82

Does it have RCA composite out (& I need mono audio for my 14" TV)?

BensAngel

designaked

ticohans

"Next time you want to jump on someone about being uninformed, perhaps you should inform YOURSELF first."

Next time you want to bust someone out for correcting misinformation, try picking someone who's not in the right, TOOL.

chuckwrona

BTW, Bestbuy.com is sold out, as well as most stores....

Sloth

barkingart

Both formats have a lot of support at this point. Heck, a lot of the best HD stuff is available in both anyways. There's a few decent exclusives on both sides, but there's hardly a lack of good HD-DVD titles available.

typoink

CruJones

Here is what Worf was trying to say (although it didn't come across as clearly as it could). The FACT is that while, yes, the vast majority of consumer displays ACCEPT 1080i as a source, they must DOWNSCALE them to their native resolution (generally 720p or 768p for plasmas, LCDs, and DLP RPTV's more than a year or two old).

Hence, "all TVs capable to displaying FULL-RES 1080i have to be 1080p" - in other words, the only TV's capable of displaying 1080 horizontal lines of resolution ARE 1080p TV's. There is NO current display technology that displays 1080 (or any other) interlaced video natively. The only exception to this real are old-school CRT's, and when was the last time you saw an HDTV using that tech?

That said, on 1080p TV's, with film-based material as a source, 1080i/p is irrelavant as long as the display can correctly de-interlace a 1080i signal. Check out Geoff Morrison's article on the subject at hometheatermag.

Next time you want to jump on someone about being uninformed, perhaps you should inform YOURSELF first.

Jackass.

ggraves82

CruJones

Ri-walmart.com is registered on godaddy with a Bentonville, AR address. the email is a Brian Vaeth (bvaeth@resource.com). It was created on 25-Sep-07. Walmart.com is registered through Network Solutions to Walmart with a address in Brisbane, CA using dns@WALMART.COM.

Knowing cooperations, dns@walmart is the logical point of all contact for websites so why not use it for this one too? And the fact that is was created just a week ago?

never the less, i'm thinking i'll check out my local on the way to work tomorrow

nosaturn1

I'm glad you beat me to it because I wasn't going to be as polite as you were.

There are tons of 1080i HDTVs out there.

Bender

typoink

The fact that porn came out on VHS, not Beta, helped too. Porn, to a large extent, drives technology.

God made the pretty girls pretty because he likes them more

Toshiba: We're willing to take a hit now, write off the losses on our earnings reports, and then reap the benefits from royalty payments later after we've used market saturation to win the format war. We're looking 5 years down the road, not 5 months.

God made the pretty girls pretty because he likes them more

Of course, who's the say if the format goes away when Blu-Ray wins the format war, that players won't be less than $100.

I think HD DVD is simply pouring money into getting players into every home possible and hoping that saturation helps them win the war. Personally, I don't think today's consumers are that naive about tech specs vs. the consumers back when VHS overtook Beta.

chillywilly

echolden

You sir, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The vast majority (like 90%) of HDTVs sitting in living rooms right now are either 720p or 1080i. Only VERY recently have 1080p televisions begun to gain mass market acceptance. Get your facts straight before you post a bunch of BS and try to pass it off like you know anything about this topic.

chuckwrona

Only Blu-Ray offers that sort of DRM... (after all, see all the Transformers HD-DVD torrents out there now? (25GB...))

Worf

As for doorstops - $100 for a kickass upscaling DVD player is a steal. The PS3's upscaling is crap compared to the upscalers Toshiba's been putting into their HD-DVD players (future proofing? If HD-DVD fails, you still have a damn nice upscaling DVD player that'll rival the more expensive ones).

Worf

Best Buy has already met the price and added online purchasing. The only problem is that they are sold out online and have limited instore availability. Why bestbuy will be better is that they also give you two free hddvd's in store ontop of the 5 free. Ill be stopping by tonight to check this out.

[www.bestbuy.com]

jcolingham

andrelix

Thanks, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitresses!

Galley

amgra

ConstyXIV

Earthslide

krugorg

krugorg

pete

I've been firmly entrenched in the wait until there is a winner camp, but damn! $100 is a helluva a deal. I've been thinking of buying an upconverting DVD player for a while now. It almost seems foolish to go with an upconverter instead of this.

This is a good player too. The folks over on Av-forums say this one actually has better sound output than the A3.

Bender

EMoShunz

EMoShunz

1080p is great, but what about people who bought a TV two or three years ago when there was a premium for 1080p? Despite Sony's TrueHD marketing campaign, many people bought 1080i because it cost several hundred dollars less and delivered much of the same quality. A 1080i player is, for many people, good enough because that's the maximum resolution of their TVs.

WK, as I said, at $99, you might as well take the plunge. Maybe there's a rebate offer too for free movies.

God made the pretty girls pretty because he likes them more

If you're down with HD-DVD, this is a pretty good deal. It's definitely got the logic side of my brain workin overtime to combat the "Me want pretty" side.

Chimaera

EMoShunz

wk1234

Penchum

:)

johnwilliams713

DC_Audiofool

FlashSandbox

God made the pretty girls pretty because he likes them more

God made the pretty girls pretty because he likes them more

DeadPlasmaCell

nXt

cyclingplatypus