DozeUser

DozeUser

Recently I decided to buy a cheap mac on ebay (os9)just to see what it was all about. Having done so, and although I still get frustrated when I can't find windows equivalent shortcuts/methods, etc, was so impressed that I have now bought a proper mac and really think that Microsoft have a lot to do to compare.

SWITCHER508

My disdain for Apple grew from the gestapo tactics with the Iphone and Apples attempts to downplay and lock forums that have expressed problems with the new Mac and OS. Microsoft products are pretty good(good enough for me) and they don't hide from being money grubbing whores, it's the American way. Apple tries to sell themselves off as innocent patriots and defenders of artistic expression via computer devices, give me a break.

I like XP and Vista, Mac never appealed to me for it's lack of software selection and low upgrade potential, but it's a great tool for media editing and graphic design, etc.. Perhaps a few years from now I will buy one.

AzSweden

I think mac cheapened themselves when they started going for eye candy over basic intuitive functionality. What do the three little circles do in the upper right corner of a window? Completely non-intuitive...

jeblis

EMoShunz

i know this, and i have done it, but still the windows start menu has a bunch of stuff in it that would be difficult to get all of it into the dock. the reason is much of it is integrated into apples menu at the top of the screen.

MacAddict21

Well, at least Apple's iWork in no way resembles Office or anything. Oh, wait -- you're an Apple fan. No doubt Office is just a cheap knockoff of AppleWorks. Nevermind.

strangeweather

Have you ever wondered why your computer became faster after you switched to a mac? It's because you had a crappy specs computer for Windows. Obviously new computers are better than old ones.

Oh yeah, people aren't envious mac haters. We just hate mac fanboys like you, who know nothing more than to repeat opinions made by Apple, and are close minded fellows who blocks every opinion that doesn't suit what Apple has to say. I'm getting a Macbook to run Windows. Oh no I just sinned.

Dooga

Sporko

doinka

Macs have more powerful hardware. Sure, but also more expensive, probably well worth the money, but not clearly a "better" value, only a choice to basically spend more for more.

Prettier UI and better layout? I put my shortcuts where they make sense to me on my desktop how hard is that? It's a desktop, that's what it's for. I must sound insane, but I prefer dull gray windows. What's inside them is what I'm interested in. I still use Classic look on XP. Works just as well.

Security? Never had a virus in almost 10 years, only a few minor spyware issues, not a big deal (hint: don't open email attachments folks!)

Stability? Never had a catastrophic crash in 9 years except for one physical HD seizure. And that's going all the way back to Windows 98. Rarely need to reboot, any crashes I have are usually soft, specific to a piece of software. I can go weeks without shutting down my XP boxes.

Compatibility? Sure, that's easy when only one company is making all your software and hardware (exaggerating I know, but still). I've had better luck with the wild-west, free market approach instead, with a little research it's easy to find the stuff that works.

And please folks don't take my comments as Mac-bashing, I know a billion fans can't be wrong. But I just can't bring myself to be a Windows basher either, works for me just fine.

mr.dandy

I don't need this whole category of software on my Mac, which also NEVER crashes or has software conflicts.

In other words, sometimes it isn't the OS, per se, but the total functioning of the system.

P.S. If your sister buys a Mac, buy The Missing Manual so she can learn her way around, and the Mighty Mouse, because the absence of right-clicking will drive her wild otherwise.

Ikat

John Davis

JohninOkinawa

EMoShunz

FlipSwitch

shiftyeyedgoat

I use PCs at work and therefore at home but anyone with any Mac experience knows the Mac interface has always been superior in terms of simplicity, efficiency, stability and fun. Although I have had fun on my PC (I'm in the games industry) I have never for a moment felt that using the PC itself was fun (outside of entertainment s/w) and more often than not I am frustrated by tedious Microsoft-forced behavior in the interface (up to and including XP and Vista). The Mac experience on the other hand has always seemed simple, efficient, rewarding, elegant and fun and is a joy to use and that can never be said for Windows.

In the 70s and 80s IBM spent millions broadcasting the message that fun was a bad characteristic in computing (remember the early IBM PC and PC-Jr. ads that characterized Apple computers as toys?). Now much of the public has been brainwashed to accept that mediocrity which has kept Microsoft from having to really innovate, simplify and enhance the elegance, accessibility and usability of their OS and they have shown little interest in making the experience any fun. Surely the PC fan boys who are in majority here will revolt at such a claim but simplicity and accessibility are the main reason the OLPC opted to go with a non-Windows OS for the XO computer, while the cost and storage savings of an alternate OS are of secondary benefit; kids with zero tech experience would have a massive barrier to use on a new Win PC, so simplifying the interface was of the utmost importance.

If only I could find a way to do a dual OS boot on non-Apple hardware I could get the best of both worlds (and my time would most likely be split 90/10 on Mac/PC).

Vagabum

I'd also like to note that this image does nothing to demonstrate the usability of each. I've used both platforms for the last 19 years, and when it comes down to accessibility, apple is a clear winner in my book. Navigation is easier, more intuitive, which is probably why a much larger % of Apple's user base is over 50 (when compared to that same % of PC's).

dqubed

randlsa

mennomateo

Super_Mac

There is no single OS that is better or more innovative or superior in any meaningful way, they are merely designed by different companies and, as such, 'evolve' in different ways.

Step666

I prefer Windows (and Linux for anything server-related) but if you want something else, have at it and for the love of everything good in this world stop arguing about it.

Ethan Allison

6 of one, half dozen of another...

SomeAudioGuy

Odomzig

newgalactic

Use the right tool (OS) for the right job.

All of these OS's are fine solutions. There is not one better than the other.

axiomatic

Also, one thing that you really can't show from a still image is the addition of Core Animation to the GUI. That feature is going to be a big part of the next era of GUI software development, and is already showing its stuff in some ways, such as Safari, Time Machine, the iPhone, etc.

XMattingly

HighDef

The same can be said for Mac when looking at OS innovation.

I was running Vista and decided to downgrade to XP. Then i decided to eff em all and installed Ubuntu. I love my cube desktop!

bsegovia

iscangel

But with Linux, you have a lot of options. With the Mac you get it Steve's way, and with Windows you get it the marketing department's way. After being an Mac fanboy for 15 years and cursing Windows at work for most of the last 20 years, I'll take it my way.

1369ic

Is it really Microsoft's fault that a vendor can't write a driver for windows? Soundblaster has to be the biggest example of this, drivers are still in a beta form for some products with features not working.

repairman2003

while macs are pretty, i just dont like them. i feel somewhat alienated from the computer, and everything just feels clumsy to me for some reason.

im also a big linux fan, and i must say that i laugh out loud when people show me how cool "spaces" is.

peterlarson233

It took a long time for Windows XP to reach a point where it's stable and usable and I have it running in a virtual machine on my tower under OS X just about 24/7. I prefer the Mac's UI but use XP for the few apps that have no Mac equal. I played with Vista briefly and was frustrated to no end.

BTW, I was a huge fan of OS 9 and will miss it sorely.

pastrychef

I liked the comparison between OSX 10.0 and WinME though. Funny stuff.

Ben Zvan

EMoShunz

Good points... I am so used to the "Start" button, I never thought of docking the Application folder.

What about doing calculations on the fly using Spotlight!?! Pretty cool for simple calculations.

I like the built-in VNC server. I can be in my office helping my wife on her iMac when she has questions. :)

yoshi

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

Joe Alien

but the other thing is... you actually look for apps by finding them and clicking on them? why don't you just use Spotlight(or if you are running Tiger QuickSilver)? Ctrl-Spacebar and type in the first few characters of your App and press Return and your app opens.. way faster than going through Finder, or even the Dock or a start button

doctorSpoc

The problem with it is the deterioration of the speed of the computer. Although I love reformatting (feels like a fresh start), it should be unnecessary at this point in computers.

The other problem I have, which many people have said that Macs are better at, is switching between programs. It should be easier to tell which firefox that is open has what in it.

Having XP, I don't hate Mac OS X. In fact, I find it quite nice to use, but the fact of the matter is that I like to play games, and boot camp is an unnecessary hassle. Period. To diehard Mac fans, yes you can use it. But to normal users.. Windows is just easier from a games standpoint.

The other thing I can't stand about Macs is the fact that the newest notebook models (I don't use a desktop) don't have fans (or something like that), and the chassis of the computer can get pretty hot. Yes I know Macs are supposed to be cool and sleek, but it gets to a point where it almost hurts to touch the bottom of the computer.

Back to an OS standpoint, the Mac has a slight edge in usability to XP.

But recently I stumbled upon Windows Vista. It looks great, runs great (I find it to run faster and smoother than XP), and it much easier to use that XP. First of all, the Media Center included with Home Premium is awesome. I just installed a TV tuner on a Vista computer and it did all the work for me, getting the guide, recognizing the channels.. a great piece of software. Looks great too.

Other subtle changes make, in my opinion, Vista better that XP. Like when you hover over a button on the main bar (with the start menu), it shows you a little picture of what the window contains. Neat!

In the end, I think it really comes down to what you need from your OS. All, including linux, will work for basic needs.. it just depends on what extra you need out of it, whether it be gaming, or other stuff that doesn't really matter.

gdehms

leicaman

leicaman

spaceman37

But, that's just me. Different people have different needs and, consequently, will have different preferences.
At the end of the day, they're just operating systems. If you can't see that it doesn't matter, you need to lighten up and get laid.

Step666

I haven't used a mac since i had one about 5 years ago - i just can't bring myself to like the ugly dock at the bottom of the screen...not to mention the slow, overpriced, and limited selection of hardware upgrades.

astrocramp

EMoShunz

(Props for comparing a Beta Apple OS to Windows ME. That cracked me up.)

Monty

Scaramanga

As for Vista, I think it was a step in the right direction for Microsoft but came out to buggy and unsupported for the average user.

Personally, I run both Leopard and Vista a la boot camp on my Mac Book Pro, not so much because I need Vista, but because I can. Call me a fanboy, but I've just been a happier person since I got my Mac...

jamur411

Mac OS made slow but steady progress from 7.5.3 to 8, adding color and texture, support for 16 and 32 bit color, etc. OS 9 wasn't so much of a leap, but it did add sticky folders along the bottom, which was sort of a precursor to the dock. I had 9.2 on my blue and white g3 tower, and it ran like lightning. When I upgraded to OSX it was a whole other story. That thing was slow as molasses. Things are just now getting back up to the speeds they should have been at all along.

Ever since windows came out it's been buggy and crashy and unpleasant. I can't really blame it though, it was written to be able to use just about anything you plugged into it in some form or another.

My biggest observation about the 2 OS's is in the search command. Apple has always had a simple, intuitive search command that would just find the file you were looking for. Windows didn't, and AFAIK, still doesn't. If you rely on google desktop to search files on your computer, then that's as sure a sign as any that your OS sucks. Apple-F worked wonderfully, Sherlock was pretty good, and now spotlight is wonderful even if you don't have indexing turned on. I get tired of waiting for an hour in windows for it not to find my file, and I really want to shoot that damn dog in the face.

DeeJayQueue

4thwall

4thwall

Sometimes I feel when you compare OS X to Windows Vista you're comparing Apples to Oranges. Microsoft has to support alot more devices thus having to create hundreds of partnerships to make it work.

How many drivers shipped with Vista? 19K or 29K drivers?

Anyway, Apple did a great job on Leopard but don't underestimate Microsoft's monopoly. I just installed both OS's on my iMac and choose which to use when I need too. :)

yoshi

On the other-hand, I went and spent my money on Leopard and yes, it looks nice, runs great, and has a couple new features to it - but honestly, I'm not sure I would use any of them - OK, well, perhaps the ability to change my background of my broadcasted webcam so that my new (5-minute) cyber-lady thinks I work in the Bahamas...

kaltespj

spaceman37

I'm slowly warming to Leopard .1 (nothing broke yet) and haven't tried Vista.

OMG! Ponies!

EMoShunz

Wait a minute.

nachobel

easy2panic

I'd forgotten all about that. man that thing was handy.

nachobel

Does the name Konfabulator ring a bell? Personally, I like how Leopard brings functionality to the Mac that existed in Linux for years. I'm speaking of course about Spaces. It's not like it is hard to program Spaces for the Mac; You Control had the program out over a year before Leopard. And, at the end of the day, Time Machine is a glossy version of Windows Restore - a 7 year-old feature in XP.

And don't get me started on stability. 10.4.10 was trash. Complete trash. I downgraded to 10.4.9 because it broke so many things. Apple makes iCal; Apple made the .10 upgrade. Nevertheless, .10 broke iCal. That's right - Apple broke its own software. At least Microsoft has an excuse; it needs to ensure compatibility across a near-infinite range of hardware configurations and remain compatible with legacy software going back 8 years.

And if you want to get Leopard involved in the stability debate, let's not forget that it got a patch within a fortnight of its release. In other words, Cupertino shipped a buggy product.

When you're updates break your own merchandise, you have no place knocking others. It's a wash.

OMG! Ponies!

Finally regarding Vista, i think the recent updates have brought a lot and Vista on my MAC was running very very well.

wookeene

But then again, thats just a Curtis Theory.

curtistheory

And if you want to talk about OS perfection, I have to go with DOS 5 - so perfect it never needed a point upgrade.

How about a total OS comparison - DOS 4 was about equal to System 8 in terms of general crappiness.

OMG! Ponies!

Galley

Look, if you're the type who needs to have your hands held and have your hardware choices made for you, Macs are for you. When you have the ability to tweak an OS for a very, very limited amount of built-in hardware, you sure as hell better get it right. The knock on Vista, for the most part, is for hardware that doesn't work correctly that worked with XP, et. al. Of course, what's rarely mentioned is the fact that the MANUFACTURERS of these devices are the ones who need to write the drivers, NOT MS.

For gaming and enthusiasts in general, there's no choice. It's Windows, period. It's mind-boggling how people let one man decide exactly what components are in their machines, and then trumpet how godly he is. You really need to rethink that.

DaTruth

I think the biggest enhancements in the OS have been : plug and play (and Apple sort of won that by default and Linux was a non-starter) and desktop search, which Google invented (I think). I was using Lookout for a while, not sure who predates whom. As desktop search evolves it will probably replace folder systems all together, at least I hope so.

But lets face it, an OS is just an OS, hard to make it glamorous without going the cheap, performance sucking eye candy way. The real benefits will come through user interfaces that are more closely integrated with the OS and other applications. Multi-touch, remote gyroscope/accelerometers, a true "better" keyboard, speech recognition, eye tracking and some way to combine all of these things to reduce all the jumping around you need to do to get your work or play done.

braddo_99

ryan.d

EMoShunz

redangel7

bana

kibets

When Vista first came out I loved it, then as more apps were supported, I was less careful about the things I installed, and all I got was a PC that BSODed on a daily basis. On the performance whine I always hear about Vista, I put XP on my XPS M1210, and my god, XP was sooo slow compared with Vista.

I'm about to make the leap to Mac, but I'm still going to keep my Vista machine as I'm not going to be forking out for a Mac Pro just for games.

Best (and worst) of both worlds for me please.

tumnasgt

zakeen

You get the best of both worlds when running windows in a box on your Mac.

I just with I could run OS X on my Vista tablet...

shurafa

XP is light on resources and very responsive, even on machines from as far back as ten years ago. It is industry standard right now, so finding software for it, free or commercial, is never a problem. It looks good enough, and just about every computer user knows how to use it.

Vista looks better, is laid out better, and handles resources better than XP. Everyone dogs on Vista for being a resource hog, but what is the sense in having a powerful computer if your operating system is not going to make use of it? If you just sit on your desktop staring at a "Memoryometer," or whatever, marveling at how much of your RAM is being used up, then yes. Vista is hogging your RAM. If you actually begin to use the computer, God forbid, then you will find Vista to be extremely responsive on just about any mid-range machine from the past three years, as long as it has at least a gig of RAM. Vista uses RAM while idle that XP would just leave, and everything is faster and better because of it.

OS X, on the other hand, is hot-key friendly. If you are a fan of keyboard shortcuts, and most power users are, then the convenience of OS X is undeniable. As someone already stated, the dock is terribly and fundamentally flawed, but once you get used to OS X, you will find that you never even need it. Quicksilver, once you get over the learning curve, can be used for everything that you once used the dock and finder for. All without ever having to touch a mouse.

It is not hard to point out the many pros and cons of each operating system, and every user has their favorite. One thing that even the most hardcore Apple fanboy cannot deny, however, is that if you are not running the most recent Apple OS, you have three years maximum before Apple leaves you out in the cold. MS supports their older operating systems for years and years after they release a new one, but Apple forgets that they even existed.

Comparing the "look" of each OS is petty and ridiculous, while comparing the usability/stability/feature count will only start a flame war. One thing that everyone can agree on, however, is that competition in this market sector drives innovation and as a result, every consumer wins -- regardless of which OS they use.

regnez

All this fanboy bitching reminded me of Abe Simpson and what he said.
"Oh, everything's stolen nowadays. Why the fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached."

Emiat

Windows
- Start menu is relatively slow to use and needlessly complicated entity. I think it's good concept to have such a hub around, but forcing users to open it all the time is just stupid.
- Quicklaunch serves one purpose alone, to launch applications, once they are running, you need to find them elsewhere.
- Taskbar, while serves it's purpose with few windows open turns into hell when you have more than few. Similar windows stack, text descriptions shrink to unreadable and the little icon doesn't reveal which document might be in question, so you have to rely on alt(win)-tab anyways.

Dock
- One icon always leads to your application, be it running or not, the whole dock just serves a simple function, to access my applications.

I still stand my ground, Dock is light years ahead of it's Windows counterpart when it comes to ease of use. The few things you mentioned, magnification, just turn it off if you don't like it, I sure do. Stacks and folders on Dock can be used for simple things, like the provided downloads folder, or your Applications folder to launch applications that don't stand in the Dock all the time, no point trying to use them for much more. You can actually do the same in Windows, you can make folders in your Taskbar, just like Quicklaunch, don't think I've ever seen anyone using it for much though.

ara

Jrsy

ecobore

The Taskbar needs an update, but its gloriously simple and effective, and it displays information well both pictorially and with text.

@Soulxside: Though, yes, they've reorganized things in Vista compared to XP, nothing is counterintuitive. The Control Panel is still task oriented by default, making it easy to find what you want to do. The clean way the Start Menu operates now, without a branching tree that takes you all over the screen is even more intuitive: you know exactly where the next list is going to display. Performance-wise, obviously I can't speak on everyone's behalf, but performance isn't really an issue in Vista outside of a couple frames per second in games. It's fast and responsive on a relatively recent computer. Even moreso than XP, due to it's vastly superior memory handling.

There really isn't a feature I've seen of Vista that I would consider a step down from XP. Okay, one: theyve removed the Filmstrip view from explorer, which was a very nice way to scan through photos.

topcatticus

As for the flame war getting a Windows user on Mac requires them to learn that the Apple Logo is almost equivalent to the Start Button and vice versa... explaining menu bars and how to properly perform installations is always a bear and whoever is dominant will always get a bad rap. Everyone hated XP when it launched because a lot of legacy Win32 apps failed in the Win NT environment, and I'm sure that many more Apple fans would have been unhappy had the Classic OS been axed at OS X's debut.

Apple prefers to launch a New OS instead of releasing service packs so they have more iterations and opportunities to shine it up, but if the Mac OS ever becomes dominant there will be fanboys who detract from it as much as current Apple fans detract from Windows (some of the old computer guys still do).
Thanks for the side by side Gizmodo it's funny how so little has changed. Oh and as for your side bar (Vista) and Widgets (OSX Dash) you can both thank Win 98 SE with Internet Explorer 4.0 for web apps that always run and consume resources!
Have a nice day! :-)

Rususeruru

cooper

1. PLAY GAMES! And I mean NEW games... no "Battlefield 2" 3 years after it's release. I want Crysis, Elder Scrolls, Unreal 3. Just can't do that on a Mac.

2. UPGRADE HARDWARE! I realize that it is possible to upgrade Mac hardware, but there are two problems with it:
1)The hardware is WAYYYYY more expensive
2)It is not easy to get it in the machine. I saw an article titled "13 Easy steps to Install a new processor in your Mac!" On my PC, installing a new card or processor consists of popping the case open, taking the old out, putting the new in, closing the case. 4 steps. THAT is easy.

That's my opinion. I think PCs are better, but that's my personal opinion. I swear, though, with just a little more PC bashing, Gizmodo might as well join Slashdot...

yay4john

ara

The newer OSes look shinier, but are also more obtrusive. System 7 flatness + OS X functionality would be ideal (for me). Enough gumdroppy Fisher Price horseshit!

And yeah, the evolved (say XP era)Start menu is more Mac like than the Dock. It is closer to the old Apple menu that was functional and stayed out of sight unless needed.

Solo500

Soulxside

VakeroRokero

Personally, I think Vista's aesthetics are much cleaner and unified than OS X. Vista does glass right, and does clever things to make text always readable, no matter what is behind the 'glass'. The current design of the OS X menu bar is abysmal, and the dock is even worse. The dock's forced perspective and screwed up shadows are downright ugly. The way it displays stacks, by default, is useless and gives no information to the user, and the jaunty curve that stacks expand to might look nice, but means you have to scroll in two dimensions just to pick something from a list.

So where are we? Take Tiger and you get an operating system that doesn't know what style to use (brushed metal? stripes? plain?), or upgrade to Leopard and get a poor implementation of just about every key feature to the operating system?

I'll stick with Vista, thanks. It actually displays information in a way that is meaningful and useful, and I just feel more productive using it. Haven't had a system crash yet, either. Not even an explorer shell restart. Did I mention the icons?

topcatticus

lianna_g

quiksilver180

on the topic of macs crashing... am I the only one who has iphoto crash on me? like.... right after i've done a bunch of tagging- go to another app and then go back?... why does no one talk about this outside the mac help forums? is it a secret that one mac user wants out but will gladly discuss it to other mac users?...

sd180

I don't understand it when mac users claim it's so much easier to use than a windows pc- is safari so less confusing than ie/firefox? I think that mac's HIDE things better- novices can't mess things up easier- but I'm never more than two (three at most) clicks away from anything I would want to do.

I hate that graphics tear so much in windows- that's one thing thing Mac guys have taken care of that windows just doesn't seem to get (it's so basic!!) I thought this was going to get taken care of in vista as well?? Can't they just put in parallel the graphics processing output? ... It's just one extra little step that they can shut off when you're not in the windows shell. (at least, i think its that easy...? if not, it should be...)

I love how easy it is to manipulate things in windows. don't get me wrong- i still remember all my BSD lines from way back when- but I'm talking about things like regedit and msconfig. Really mac? I can't turn off dashboard? ... of course I can! just let me get to pulling a few hairs out first... even something like the cursor speed and acceleration! arg...

back to knockin' windows? ... VISTA BROUGHT BACK THE CRASHES... what the? I thought that was a pre XP thing.

macs run xp amazingly well... my thinkpad doesn't run osx. ...

and seeing as how I'm going off anyways.... my thinkpad doesnt have a windows key! i need to reroute my keys to get flip3d working! ... thanks old vestiges of the ibm/m$ rivalry. (although, i heard the lenovo made thinkpads have the wn key now...- should i upgrade?)

what was i talking about again? ...arg...

sd180

AqueousBeef

Bodypainter

if we ever needed anymore proof that mac > windows, please remember how vista copied everything OS X had to offer and MISERABLY failed. last time i checked, no one is downgrading to a previous version of OS X because the new one sucks. have fun downgrading back to XP you poor bastards. astala VISTA bitches!

MacAddict21

My desires in an os won't be quenched until it's spawned from the hardware of 42" multitouch ultrathins, eye tracking, and some speech recognition. Until then i'm just watching in anticipation.

savager

That was God's Rig when He created the universe.

fota

japFA

lafond66

That's one of the things that drew me to Mac. That, the high quality of hardware, and the fact that the new releases of the OS were lightweight and stable (10.4 was faster and more responsive than 10.3 on a 500 MHz G3 PowerBook). The hardware's viable for a terribly long time; I expect to keep my three-year-old G5 in running order for another five years, at least.

Klitaka

OS X 10.3, 10.4, 10.4 Universal... all w/o responses from M$.

nacengineer

nacengineer

moo083

Pender

Click on the desktop (to give finder focus) and type Command+Shift+A for applications
Click on the desktop and type Command+Shift+C for "Computer Home Directory"
Click on the desktop and type Command+Shift+D for "Computer Home Directory"

And then there is also Quicksilver.. where you can hit CTRL+Space and then start typing the name of what you're looking for...

Or you could use the built in spotlight Command+Space to do the same... works awesome in OS X.

I think your frustration comes with the way Apple has gone away from the logical file structure of the past. Once you learn a way that fits with your psychology then you might be less frustrated.

Good Luck!

nacengineer

ECAsh

Khamel

Perhaps owning an iPod has something to do with it. I've actually considered buying a Zune just to mix it up. In the end, does it really matter? If people have a preference for one operating system over another, let them. I'm not gonna ride somebody because they LOVE Windows. Nor am I going to hop on a bandwagon because OS X is the best thing of all time. They both have their place. They are both necessary.

Let's just get along.

Out.

D.LYTE

Trust - Difficult to earn, easy to lose.

vagrant

@MACADDICT21: If you use Tiger, why not put your Home Folder in the dock, that gives you perfect access to all you documents, and if you run Leopard, I would recommend you use Quay ([www.brockerhoff.net]).

hagablog

mSeliga

clicking on the finder in the dock is the equivalent of the start button. You don't need to click on the HD. Stop complaining.

I've used all versions of windows starting from 3.1 and loved it, until I discovered the Mac OS X Panther. I've gone mac and I'll never go back. The main thing that reeled me in was the look of the mac os. Now that windows has brought its game up a bit with vista, I'm still in awe by all the new features incorporated into leopard. Vista just seems like a ripoff of the previous versions of Mac OS X.

rilobilly

Welcome to Envy-boy fest 2007. Go ahead and show how much of an apple hater you are.

MacAddict21

DaIntellectual

I've used Windows since 3.1 and swore by it until it became too bloated and unstable to bear. With Mac I've found a much more solid platform and MUCH smoother workflow (have you ever really tried to multitask on-the-fly with Windows?... don't do it if you're doing mission critical stuff). I'll sacrifice dynamic drive partitioning (ala Vista) for reliability and ease-of-use ANY day.

rsg2003

sprice82

MacAddict21