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The Downfall of HD DVD, Now Available on Blu-ray

Jeyl — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:29:44 EST

youtube took the video down.

/cry

Jeyl

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trunk666 — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:12:28 EST

that's god dammned funny right there.

trunk666

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hanswurst0815 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:29:08 EST

@Hvedhrungr: Well thank you very much, as a political scientist, I've never heard of this so-called "Wirtschaftswunder" before you just mentioned it.

hanswurst0815

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Hvedhrungr — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:12:04 EST

@hanswurst0815: Gods, man.
Downfall is a fantastic movie, if only for the fact that it will allow hundreds of people who wouldn't pick up a book to get an impression of situation of Germany at the end of the war.
It is also a fairly good portrayal of the figure Hitler, as well as the Goebbels family.
And contrary to what you mentioned earlier, "Untergang" is no way an ambiguous title for the movie. It simply implies the demise of a something, in this case a dictator, his propaganda and most of his supporters. It implies also the recession and misery of a people immediately following a war, which is what happens to any country on the losing side.
If you were well versed in your history, you'd know what Germany emerged back at the top of European industry and commerce within scarcely 20 years, thanks to the "Wirtschaftswunder" in the 1960s. It takes a downfall to make such a dramatic ascent.
Comparing this movie to others concerning the same topic, I have to say I'd recommend watching "Downfall" to most of them. Regardless of the pseudo-philosophical and amateur psychological gibberish possibly uttered by a director overwhelmed with success.

Hvedhrungr

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kcmurphy88 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:58:05 EST

By Godwin's law ([en.wikipedia.org]) HD DVD wins.

kcmurphy88

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hanswurst0815 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:42:23 EST

@Insanegain: I don't think it would lead anywhere to discuss the whole WW2 here. I know that the USA aren't the only country who liberated Germany.

But I'm not so sure we're understanding each other. I, too, have a hard time believing that Hitler could have been a nice guy. That's my whole argument why I don't like the movie. If Hirschbiegel wants to find a father fiugure in Hitler, fine, but I don't need that. I don't want to empathize in this point.

So I guess we can agree to that: reading a book like the one you recommended is probably a better way to get to know more about the Nazis, while "Der Untergang" can be perfectly used to show the Downfall of HD DVD, for example.

hanswurst0815

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JoshS — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:01:47 EST

I don't think the movie is a joke, hanswurst0815. They chose an attractive actor - ok. But it focus on many documented events and is a well made film.

Weren't the cast, crew and director German (mostly) anyway? Then there must be some split of opinion over this film in Germany.

JoshS

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JoshS — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:55:11 EST

This was actually really funny :) a bit lengthy though. Also if you speak any German it sorta ruins it.

I've seen the movie Der Untërgang. It is not funny. It is a haunting and as real (as I can tell) look of what happened at the time (just in the bunker). I hope no one here is so stupid as to take this simple parody and turn it into some sorta Hitler-love outlet.

I hope.

JoshS

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kcg — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:23:32 EST

Blu-Ray leitet sich von dem blauen Laser ab, der zum Schreiben und Lesen des neuen Mediums eingesetzt wird. Während DVD-Medien mit einem roten .

Eine geringere Wellenlänge ist gleichbedeutend mit einerhöheren Präzision bei Schreib- und Lesevorgängen und damit einer höheren Speicherkapazität des Mediums.

Der neue LG Blu-ray Brenner GBW-H10N vereint nur beide Technologien und erlaubt Ihnen auf din neuen
Medien bis zu 25GB Daten pro Layer zu brennen.

kcg

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rimplestultskin — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:51:32 EST

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

take that, toshiba and nazisoft.

rimplestultskin

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Littlebitsofpaper — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:23:22 EST

I'm not so sure I like this new internet where a really funny parody about failing tech turns into a discussion about the "paternal and caring" Mr. Hitler ...

Littlebitsofpaper

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InsaneGain — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:53:24 EST

@hanswurst0815:
I believe it was the Soviet Union, not the Americans that were primarily responsible for "liberating" Germany from fascism. They simply had over 2 times the manpower, and produced over twice the number of tanks and artillery than Germany. The war would have taken longer without the American air campaign, but the outcome was inevitable. It came down to math and statistics basically. Overwhelming quantity eventually beats qualitative superiority.
And I have a hard time believing Hitler was "paternal and caring". Instead of relying on Oliver Hirschbiegel comments, try reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer, based on captured documents and diaries of important figures in Germany. Reading the book, it becomes apparent that Hitler was in fact a ruthless sociopath and an egomaniac that readily risked the complete destruction of entire nation in the pursuit of his personal agenda.

InsaneGain

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slingblade — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:48:48 EST

The Xbox 360 bit was so funny.

slingblade

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CruJones — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:14:35 EST

The funniest thing I've watched today. Even funnier than the HD-DVD sour grapes comments I've seen all week.

CruJones

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berribrand — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:12:56 EST

@crazysamz: Well, we have to wait for the CEO of Toshiba to commit seppuku for disgracing himself and his entire corporate family. Then, a change of guard may bring that about. Kinda like how the Minister of Food and Drug safety in China was forced to resign and sentenced to death for the poisonous pet food catastrophe.

berribrand

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israeli — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:23:34 EST

unless the guy who made this is jewish, its not funny.

o wait- i take it back, its funny anyway.

israeli

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topbravo222 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:57:06 EST

Do you guys even know how to give credit to the right people?

[gizmodo.com]

????

Thanks Mr. Diaz for properly giving credit where credit is due.

topbravo222

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ashwinmudigonda — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:47:06 EST

phenomenal was spelled wrong;

ashwinmudigonda

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hanswurst0815 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:25:51 EST

@Bong14: Indeed, I don't know exactly what "downfall" can or cannot imply, especially since english is not my first language. But german is, and believe me, "Untergang" has a subjective opinion. It may very well be that in the U.S. the movie led to totally different receptions than in Germany. Do you by any chance know this nice little proverb saying that Germany will never forgive America for liberating them from fascism? Here, people always tend to become a little bit nostalgic and melancholic when it comes to the, you know, downfall. And after I read in an interview that director Oliver Hirschbiegel said about Hitler that eventually we would have to understand that Hitler, too, was paternal and caring, it came to my mind that this nostalgia and melancholy is exactly what the movie wants to evoke.

And that's why I don't like it. I mean, look at this picture of Alexandra Maria Lara playing Traudl Junge for example [www.rug.nl] - can you really take this serious? This movie is a joke. If you really want to know something about the Nazis, watch Claude Lanzmann's "Shoa".

hanswurst0815

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imTheKing — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:00:08 EST

That was too damn funny.

and on a side note, yes HD-DVD is dead

imTheKing

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VishusBurn — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:55:56 EST

That was sooooo good...I'm gonna be chuckling randomly at various points throughout the day and no one will know why and I'll look insane and I'll sound even more insane if I try to explain.... ah, oh well, such is the price of good humor.

Good stuff.

VishusBurn

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ktoth04 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:51:35 EST

lol, thats hilarious...

*pets my ps3/bluray player :D*

ktoth04

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reefdweller — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:42:08 EST

rotflmao. Steiner!!!!!

reefdweller

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thepeopleselbow — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:35:37 EST

Often people who aren't as nerdy as me ask what's happening with the whole 'blueray hddvd thing' assuming I'll know since I'm a huge dork.

Thankfully now I can just forward them this video, it's the most educational piece on what's been happening by far.

thepeopleselbow

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rfaulder — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:20:48 EST

I JUST watched Downfall last weekend, and it blew me away. Everyone needs to watch it.

rfaulder

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strider_mt2k — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:19:23 EST

That was just brilliant.
It even sounded like he said "Sony" in that one part, awesome.

It makes me very happy to be sitting on the sidelines on this one.
My wife is the movie watcher, not me.
She'll express an interest one way or the other eventually.

strider_mt2k

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Bong14 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:04:46 EST

@hanswurst0815: It's called Downfall because it's about the downfall of the third reich. Look up the word; there's no subjective opinion buried there at all. The movie is literally about Hitler's downfall. If it was trying to express the revolting political opinion you're implying, it would be called "Disaster" or "Dangnabbit" or "Das Totalfuckingdisappointment." If you think that movie is pro Nazi you ought to watch it again. I'd probably turn the sound up this time as well.

Bong14

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radikaled — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:00:54 EST

@Jesus Diaz: I agree. The only reason I bought a HD-DVD player was to fill the content gap between my BluRay. Now that the remaining 2 studios are not exclusive to HD-DVD I don't have to worry about getting the content I want on BluRay. Unless studios start jumping ship between the two camps over and over again... BluRay I hate to say it... is in the better position to win.

Now the question remains if my PS3 will have ANY GAME CONTENT FOR FU**S SAKE!

radikaled

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CowAndCattle — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:55:44 EST

@hanswurst0815: It's called downfall because it is the downfall of the "third reich", the downfall of the Nazi regime; and that what it really was, wasn't it?

CowAndCattle

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Joseph — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:41:39 EST

LMAO, ITS FUNNIER WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND GERMAN!

Joseph

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savager — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:38:31 EST

this was freaking hilarious.. awesome job.. so funny

savager

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citizen024 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:22:37 EST

this made my day, excellent!

citizen024

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_woozzy_ — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:16:42 EST

And the croud goes wild!

_woozzy_

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alexlr — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:15:53 EST

@Balance_In_Life: Reading comprehension, on the other hand, must not be your cup of tea.

If you actually read my post, I was pointing out to DP533 that people who have BDP 1.0 players aren't "screwed" unless they want to watch all that extra content.

I never said that Profile 1.1 didn't allow for PIP either. I was under the assumption that 1.0 players (sans the PS3) didn't have ethernet.

In any case, you're barking up the wrong tree, champ. Blu-Ray owners aren't screwed, like Mr. DP533 said. He's spreading around more HD-DVD FUD.

alexlr

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Balance_In_Life — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:08:17 EST

@alexlr: Funny because all the new 1.1 spec allow for PIP.

[www.engadgethd.com]

[www.highdefdigest.com]

[www.blu-ray.com]

Just to name a few. Ohhh and I pluged in my Dad's BD-P1200 by Samsung right into my router for it's upgrade.

So yeah? I guess my PS3 is my cup of tea.

Balance_In_Life

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CowAndCattle — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:06:04 EST

I know this is off-topic, but it was just the first entry I hit today. I'm following Gizmodo for almost a year now and for quite some time I'm a registered user. I have only one simple question: Why don't you allow me to comment anything? I've been writing comments plenty of times to plenty of news. Okay, sometimes my comments might not have been good enough to be published, but most of the time I'm really writing good comments and some of them were really helpful. They don't show up, not after 24 hours, not after 3 weeks. Why aren't I'm allowed to comment?

CowAndCattle

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alexlr — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:46:44 EST

Screwed? So they won't be able to watch PIP side-by-side stuff or connect to the internet. I guess if that's really your cup of tea, then you might need to buy a new player, but I think most people just want to, you know, watch the movie.

alexlr

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DP533 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:43:24 EST

Too bad all those who bought a profile 1.0 BDP are screwed. Too bad profile 1.1 sucks. Too bad HD DVD actually had players people liked and wanted. Too bad the only good Blu-Ray player is the PS3... I refuse to buy in - OPPO FTW!

DP533

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big_marky_t — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:42:25 EST

It's worse than he think! i've hurd that the boom this morning will be blu-ray in MBPs, McPros & Imacs

big_marky_t

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Jesus Diaz — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:36:24 EST

@crazysamz: I don't have Blu-ray or HD DVD and I think discs are dead. But 75% of the studios cater now to Blu-ray and Universal and Paramount are not HD DVD-only anymore.

What miracle is going to save HD DVD again?

Jesus Diaz

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Balance_In_Life — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:36:19 EST

@crazysamz: Soon you will see the power of the dark side. Like when Star Wars comes to Blu-Ray.

Balance_In_Life

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kiwy82 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:25:28 EST

LOL!

kiwy82

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Crazysamz — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:16:31 EST

This is just a bunch of bullcrap... HD-DVD has not lost to Blu-Ray yet and should still be in the abttle for quite some time. Just because 2 more studios have gone Blu-Ray doesn't mean the war is over. If the war was over, HD-DVD wouldn't be in stores anymore, and Toshiba would be making Blu-Ray players!

Crazysamz

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Husher — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:06:27 EST

they should sell this on blue ray

Husher

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markcheng — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:05:25 EST

blades of glory!!!!

markcheng

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hanswurst0815 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:54:45 EST

...but I love the Blue-ray/HD DVD-version! :D

hanswurst0815

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hanswurst0815 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:53:44 EST

@woolie:

Der Untergang is a fantastic movie

You really think that? I don't want to go into political discussions here, but if a movie about the Allies' victory over Germany is called "Downfall", it pretty much says it all.

hanswurst0815

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woolie — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:43:16 EST

And yeah, I have a $300 HD-DVD player. Oh well. I have a good track record with CE stuff, but we can't win every time.

woolie

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woolie — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:41:44 EST

poking around on youtube, there's a whole series of them. It's a competitive sport. Best time I've had since the Gates retiring video.

woolie

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Husher — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:40:42 EST

that was so awesome i almosted cryed. going right on to my zen ty gizmodo

Husher

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Serolf Divad — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:36:25 EST

I was always partial to the one where Hitler's car is sotlen.

Serolf Divad

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Jesus Diaz — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:33:02 EST

@woolie: yeah, we know, we featured it :-) I actually think this one is funnier than the xbox/ps3 one.

Jesus Diaz

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woolie — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:30:39 EST

The 'original' Der Untergang redub was for Xbox360 / PS3, but this one was just as good. :)

Der Untergang is a fantastic movie, btw, I recommend it to everyone.

woolie