Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups - Gizmodo Comments

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

devilbond — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:29:16 EST

G-Technology make a drive called the G-MINI that is a companion piece to the Airport Base Station (and also just an external drive with some i/o). However it states that it is Time Machine ready... anyone got & tried this solution?

[g-technology.com]

devilbond

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

MikeFinn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:46:09 EST

I wish Apple would think about their customers who already have Airport Extreme, already have a big external drive, already upgraded to Leopard because of supposed Time Machine wireless capability, already are disappointed it wasn't so, and who would simply like to connect - sans wires - with the external drives we already have. And that's my run-on sentence for the day.

MikeFinn

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

xipher — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:18:21 EST

~sigh~. I bought an airport extreme just 1 month ago.. Knew I should have waited :'(

xipher

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

justpassingby — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:12:04 EST

With out RAID 1 (2 drives mirroring each other) in the Time Capsule, it's hardly server grade storage.

The main problem I see is that the average everyday user will see this as a fool-proof way to archive the important data. And when the uncooled, over-heated 1TB drive fails after 1 year, that person is going to be SOL. Will it happen to everyone? No, but it'll happen.

I really contest their "server grade storage" marketing.

justpassingby

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

JRo — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:57:34 EST

So will Leopard support a "real" NAS for wireless Time Machine backups now? Time Capsule looks nice and all, but when you're relying on backups, redundancy is kinda important.

JRo

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

x23 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:15:56 EST

@balikian: huh?

x23

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

xenti — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:49:19 EST

Can I still use this to backup my old PowerMac G4 without Leopard or wireless?

xenti

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

sommerlund — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:46:49 EST

I specifically purchased a new airport and 500GB HDD because I wanted to do Time Machine backups. I'm won't be a happy camper if this doesn't work.

sommerlund

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

ItsaSony — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:41:45 EST

server grade is a reference to the duty cycle of the storage drive, typically always on with either 8x5 or 24x7 of use.

ItsaSony

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Bruce90 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:58:38 EST

I wonder if hooking a HDD to a time capsule will give you a NAS capability ala the airport extreme with attached HDD.

Bruce90

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

marr — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:46:49 EST

Apple, blink twice if you hear us.

marr

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

quidam_brujah — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:38:56 EST

Great.

I bought the AEBS gigabit/802.11n SPECIFICALLY for the print server and drive sharing. Printer server works great. Drive sharing (via AFP or SMB) blows major chunks and should be the seed of a class-action suit.

Follow this thread:
[discussions.apple.com]

This is a known issue for over 6 months and not only is there no fix but there's not even an acknowledgment about the problem and a work around, a refund, or a rebate.

And now I know why... the were too busy working on a new router.

I could have bought a new router and stayed with my NSLU2 for half the price of the AEBS.

I love my 13.3" MBP, but I'll be darned if I by another product of theirs without 'borrowing' one first.

Good luck to all who want to by the new 'server grade' (maybe this means it actually works as advertised) 'Time Capsule'.

quidam_brujah

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

drlovegun13 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:31:44 EST

Yes it is AJAX622. I am also peeved at Apple. I love my new Airport Extreme, and I dearly hope they have a firmware upgrade to allow current airport extreme users to back up to an attached USb External HDD. I mean, what's the difference technology wise right? It shouldnt matter that the Time Capsule has a HDD built in vs an attached HDD? Anyone see a possible difference? I would venture to guess that the internal HDD is no different than any other standard HDD in an external enclosure. (The internal Poweer supply is a cool idea though, and I Still think they should have made it wall mountable)

drlovegun13

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

bubuli — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:30:02 EST

now if Apple will just release a firmware update that fixes their NAT/uPnP on their old Airports...

bubuli

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

ajax622 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:21:18 EST

I am kinda of a noob with macs so bear with me, is the WAN ethernet port used to connect to a router?

ajax622

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

uberfu — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:15:50 EST

"...nd four ethernet ports, ..."

Except that there are only 3 Ethernet Ports and 1 Uplink_

uberfu

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

xenti — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:04:35 EST

I was hoping for the ability to connect a firewire harddrive.

xenti

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

drehenkraft — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:38:34 EST

I am currently using a WD MyBook connected to an AEBS using the WD backup, which is kind of a PITA. I just bought, but haven't installed a leopard family pack. I didn't know I couldn't use time machine to backup to the remote drive. I'd really like to see the auto backup as a firmware add to the AEBS, as well.

drehenkraft

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

nathanariz0na — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:37:59 EST

@STWF
"I was under the impression that Time Machine backup to an AE connected hard drive was just a firmwarre upgrade away."

I'd like to echo that. I'm seriously p*ssed. The only reason I invested in a 500gb hard drive was because Apple explicitly stated that Time Machine would be able to use AirDisk. The fact that they later pulled that statement from their website without explanation doesn't excuse them.

nathanariz0na

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

spededdler — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:36:12 EST

No firmware yet but.. "Enable Airport disk destinations with iTimeMachine." From lifehacker: "Enable Airport disk destinations with iTimeMachine." [www.xiotios.com]

spededdler

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

stwf — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:21:12 EST

@vnsrock, @robgiallo

Well, is this true? I was under the impression that Time Machine backup to an AE connected hard drive was just a firmwarre upgrade away. Has anyone confirmed there is no firmware upgrade coming? In light of the other 2 products announced all being simple software upgrades with full backward comatibility that would be surprising.

GIZMODO, please investigate this.

stwf

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

VNSROCK — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:16:53 EST

@robgiallo: I agree with you. I just sold my airport extreme and bought a gigabit airport extreme. I was fully anticipating that Apple would enable time machine back ups over AE attached HDD's (like they were showing in the Leopard previews on their website). When I saw this device, I just got pissed off. All in all, a very disappointing keynote. Investors seem to agree.

VNSROCK

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

workingonyourinvoice — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:09:10 EST

@Monty: Even if they aren't smart enough to buy them, that's why they have Apple Stores and Specialists. This will be a no brainer for complete system sales.

workingonyourinvoice

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Bruce90 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:07:44 EST

I'm interested in getting a NAS for my home network of 2 macs and a PC (hopefully an macair soon)will time capsule do the trick? Back up is great but my kids are on both macs and need to get their files.

Bruce90

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

balikian — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:05:27 EST

This will be great. And when it stops working and you spend hours trying to get it to re-connect to your network, you're only out $300 - $500! What a deal.

balikian

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Taiyoryu — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:03:18 EST

Where is Time Machine's remote storage option? It's all well and good to have an easily accessible, easy-to-use, automated backup on one's network, but that still isn't going to protect against fire, tornado, flood, hurricane, earthquake, etc. Heck, I'm surprised Apple hasn't enabled that feature using a .mac account or through a corporate deal via Google or Amazon.

Taiyoryu

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

thespiessman — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:02:25 EST

Can this also be used as a external hard drive (not just for time machine backup) to stores itunes music, movies, etc....

thespiessman

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Monty — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:56:58 EST

Okay, I think this is a neat concept that might help their core base of users. However, I am not certain they will be smart enough to buy one.

Monty

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

simplogic — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:55:54 EST

bit-torrent support?

simplogic

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Ricky — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:55:51 EST

Does this mean time machine will work on any AirDisk now?

Ricky

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

timecapq — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:55:51 EST

Very important question for me, an owner of an Airport Extreme: Will Airport Extremes be upgraded (firmware or whatever the problem is) to support wireless Time Machine backups? Or is my only option to replace my Airport Extreme and buy a Time Capsule. I want very much to do wireless backup of my two Macs.

(Note: I am aware of the squishy workarounds for Airport Extreme/Time Machine. Not interested.)

timecapq

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Dunny0, ELE Hopeful — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:46:41 EST

See, you can get a good NAS going with an existing AirPort Extreme and a 1TB USB drive...

But you can't use Time Machine to backup to that.

If there isn't some sort of update to Time Machine to address this, if the only solution is this 500MB dealie, then meh.

Dunny0, ELE Hopeful

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

robgiallo — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:44:14 EST

Are you telling me that I can't just connect a drive to my current Airport extreme that I just bought a few months ago, I'll have to throw it out and buy a new 'appliance' if I want to use time machine on my macbook pro?!?!?! That is SERIOUSLY f'd.

robgiallo

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

ssnape — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:42:49 EST

I don't want a Time Machine full backup of multiple computers or even one computer. Can the Time Capsule disk be used as just a mountable big fat disk on the network, in short a decent NAS? If so I am interested. If not then I pass.

ssnape

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Galley — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:39:44 EST

What about the 500GB HDD I already use for my iTunes library; can I hook that to the Time Capsule and access it as an AirDisk?

Galley

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Xenocide — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:13:40 EST

@unicron02: To be fair WHS PC's are neer $500.

Xenocide

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

doubledown14 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:02:43 EST

Anyone catch the end of the press release: 802.11n* is built in to Apple's iMac(R) desktop and the entire Mac notebook line up, including MacBook(R), MacBook Pro and the new MacBook Air.

doubledown14

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

mesonto — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:00:56 EST

windows home server isn't actually just for geeks, it's actually a great piece of software, and talk about flying off the shelves, HP is always sold out of their new hardware piece, it's selling quite well, albeit I am still waiting to see if I can back up a Mac on it.

mesonto

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

unicron02 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:00:11 EST

Windows Home Server is just what the name implies - a server. If you want a complete computer running a server derivative OS, with all the features and complications associated with it, get Windows Home Server.

If you want a single, small piece of hardware that functions both as an 802.11n Wi-Fi base station and backup solution, without any additional features or complications, then get this thing.

Comparing Windows Home Server to this thing is along the lines of comparing apples to oranges as the cliche goes, no pun intended. While they both offer the same basic functionality, they are in different product categories. If you need RAID 5 with all the other wizbangs a fully-featured backup server offers then you'd obviously find little utility in this Apple product. If you're John Q. Public who just wants a little gizmo you can plug in and click a few buttons to backup your family vacation pics, then you might be more interested in this thing.

unicron02

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Aberracus — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:57:15 EST

probably for a geek but for the rest of the workd this is gona be superb, look the sales figures for windows home server, nobody is buying it.

Aberracus

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

mikecoscia — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:47:59 EST

Eh windows home server looks like a more feature full solution.

mikecoscia

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

homerjay — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:47:32 EST

Well now we know what they did with all those Apple TV's that wern't selling. :)

homerjay

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

mesonto — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:45:11 EST

This is certainly a last minute response and a poor one at that to MS Home server and the various appliance like the HP mediaservers. Too bad the HP Mediaserver doesn't backup Macs as well. (maybe it will though, there seems to be a lot of new software extensions for it. BTW, wireless-n I do not want as my backup technology, plug me in instead. Apple just not good enough.

mesonto

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

shifuimam — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:39:15 EST

BOO it double posted....i don't think gizmodo likes me :( sorry about that.

shifuimam

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

shifuimam — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:38:59 EST

So does "server grade" mean a 15,000 RPM Seagate Cheetah, or is just using fancy words for a standard SATA drive?

Not only that, but if the warranty on these is anything like all of Apple's other hardware, I'll pass. I'd rather have a five-year warranty than a pretty box for backing up my critical personal data.

shifuimam

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

shifuimam — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:37:03 EST

But now it's coming in a pretty case...

I'm wondering what "server grade hard drives" means. Are we talking 10,000 or 15,000 RPM Seagate Cheetah or what?

Now what would be nice is if they released a real home backup server with a RAID. I'm guessing in of these things, if your drive goes south, you're done for. Not only that, but if it's got Apple's traditional warranty (aka crap), you're looking at another $100+ for AppleCare to extend the warranty to three years.

I just can't trust any all-in-one external storage solution that doesn't have a five-year warranty. My data's too important for that.

shifuimam

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

snitch29 — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:35:04 EST

not a bad price at all for $500 am might grab one

snitch29

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Fishguy — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:33:46 EST

Woohoo! I've been holding off buying the Airport Extreme, but this is awesome. Sign me up.

Fishguy

Apple Time Capsule Server for Wireless Time Machine Backups

Xenocide — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:28:44 EST

You couldn't do this before? Didn't the backup suport network drives? TB for $500 isn't a bad price though.

Xenocide