zarchitect

Just use the machine in a slightly different manner instead, and place all suspicious remains into a bomb disposal container.

I can't hate for the person that killed themselves and many others around them, they don't know what they are doing, but I find hate for those that convinced this person to do so. They're still alive, convincing someone else to do the exact same thing.

Is there any information that suggests the places bombed in the past have tried to heal the area? by placing signs everywhere saying that suicide is not the path to heaven, to rest in peace, to letting your family escape poverty?

It seems to follow the same cycle, military action over there, suicide bomb over here, military action over here, suicide bomb over there, ad nauseum, families are broken, hate grows, retaliations, and so on.

To explain a little further about the person committing suicide not knowing what they are doing, they are surrounded by people of their own origins when entering these areas, yet they still end up committing suicide.

skulldriveshaft

lightshow

karmaghost

Calistograph

if cellphones weren't made to resemble communicators, if people didn't dress up their cars to look like starfighters, if there hadn't been a space shuttle named enterprise, maybe you'd have a point. the visionary quality of a lot of sci-fi drives innovation in the present day. shakespeare and jane austen didn't write about robots. isaac asimov did.

dave the wet sprocket

Jackhole

Toro22

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

I do have to question why there is a posting specifically about the suicide bomber. That tactic is nothing new.

nimblesquirrel

I'm glad that it appears that most Giz readers would agree. Flaming the photographer is more than immature.

huygir

Secondly, if Annalee is such an absolute amazing pro, then why do her reports frequently contain her own speculation and sensationalism? In some cases, reading her listed source material demonstrates how far she is from the facts of a story. Sorry, but her other accomplishments do not make up for this. I'm not saying that she's a bad person, but her reporting could use some work.

Yes, to you I am "just some commenter on the internet." To me, Annalee is "just some commenter on the internet." As a free thinking person, I have every right to question whatever I please, whether you like it or not. As an objective viewer, I questioned her work, which is also my right. Sure, I think that she can do better. You say that she can do better. So, instead of trying to flame me for pointing out that Annalee's not living up to her potential, why don't you go help her?

Oh, by the way, have you even considered asking what the article had to do with Science Fiction? After all, isn't that supposed to be the focus of io9? I've noticed that many of the articles (hers included) have absolutely nothing to do with sci-fi, and probably belong elsewhere. Maybe Wired?

PantherShade

My point was that words like "worst" and "candy coated" aren't journalistic; they imply subjectivity or value judgments. I suppose you could argue that Gizmodo is a blog and not meant as journalism, but there are moments journalistic standards would benefit, and this is one of them.

I understand why you posted it, and I saw Io9's comments. Some of the comments were disgusting. Some here ("not new," for one) were, as well.

I think posts like this are valuable and belong on Gizmodo every bit as much as computer/gadget technology. But words like "worst" and "candy coated", i.e., value judgments, don't belong in posts like this.

Hope that clarifies my point. Keep up the good work.

willentrekin

mthrndr

This is the reality of the Middle East. I don't care what side you're on. This is what all sides have brought themselves to, whether wilfully, through self-defense, trickery... this is not a statement about who's right or who's wrong. This is a statement about what's really happening, and how important it is to see it for what it truly is.

It's called perspective, and hearing 10 second sound bites while watching Palestinians shout angry slogans in a language the majority of us can't understand will never deliver the same impact as those pictures. The same people angry at this are the same people who would have been angry at the image of Phan Thị Kim Phúc. That's real, and something like that will drive the horrors of reality home like no amount of words ever can.

If all you can do is scream, shout, and belittle people who try to show you what real life is... shame on you for being so willing to keep your blinders on.

Sqube

I am not familiar with bomb squad tactics at all, and don't know if it was necessary, but I agree with some previous poster that running over the guy is something that a law enforcement agency in any democratic country shouldn't do; that is what makes different states and terrorists.

MACPollo

It is gadget related - now all irobot needs is the Super Marketplace Suicide Bomber Roomba ...

Littlebitsofpaper

I click on the link waiting to find pictures of Britney and all I find was some pictures of a robot doing its thing... Oh well. Giz, please be more accurate in your descriptions...

Seriously though, I think by "candy-coated" BLam was referring to the lack of coverage most Americans get of what's really going on outside this country. The Iraq and Afghan "thing" sugared down to tax-cuts and car bumper stickers... no connection with what's really happening. As soon as someone posts a "graphic" picture, people get upset because it wakes them up from their Disney-ed down lifestyle of McMansions, Hummers, and puppy-dogs.

Yes, the candied down lifestyle comment borders on a political commentary versus robot-only blog... but what the hell - LOOK AT ALL THESE COMMENTS, WOOOHOOO!!!!

zarchitect

demonwolf

Brian Lam

Brian Lam

Brian Lam

Brian Lam

Brian Lam

sonburn

Furthermore, posting the picture of a human corpse on the front page (even worse than the addition pictures with no warning) demonstrates a lack of empathy as well as negligence of journalistic integrity. >:(

PantherShade

Munch the BanNail

BrianLocke

Whammo

tonerbaloner

coolfelix

mthrndr

This is something that wasn't posted on the io9 site originally so as to warn people of the images. I think that's the only reason why people got upset.

demonwolf

Noobs-R-Us

Having just read through that whole thread, it looks to me like most of the dumb was brought by two or three trolls. Very kind of the io9 folks to not borrow Giz's banhammer for a few minutes...!

FredicvsMaximvs

I seem to remember a story about that very distinctly... I would think that not getting to heaven for your 42 virgin porcupines would be a big deterrent to suicide bombing...

Magiksreal

1. However loosely related to gagetry, it is still related and I am glad to have seen the links to a story I likely would have otherwise missed.

2. The main difference between Terrorists (rebels, freedom fighters or whatever the current PC term is) and the military forces of most of the world is that Terrorists intentionally target innocent civilians. The military attacks targets of war and occasionally there is collateral damage.

3. Because of this dedication to keeping civilians as safe as possible most military forces world-wide are creating and inventing more accurate and safe weapons (the Gauss gun reported about last week is a good example of this)

4. People who villify the robot's handler of not being respectful to a dead body need to be reminded that booby-trapping is not a new idea. As just one example, in Vietnam, some Vietnamese soldiers would attach their weapon to a grenade's pin and then run directly at the enemy. that way when their weapon was pulled from their dead hands, they'd take out more of their enemy. These same tactics are being used. One bomber walks into a coffee shop. when a crowd of hundreds gathers, a second bomber comes along and bats cleanup.

5. These tactics (suicide bombing) have been going on for decades in the middle east and the presence of a military force is not the cause, but simply the currently convenient reason.

Don't take #5 to mean that I support or do not support the US being in Iraq, it's simply stating a fact.

Magiksreal

MK2 needs to have a defecation feature.

Spaceboy

Anyway, great video - it is interesting to see the use of the robot in saving lives, and to me the would-be bomber gave up any claim to hummanity the day he strapped on that bonb with the intent of blowing up women and children. It would only have been better if they had smeared bacon fat on the treads first.

Canoehead

markgm

Palestina

markpb

On the other hand, while it may be personally brave to do such a thing, it is an overall cowardly act because they're engaging in a militaristic campaign against people who are not directly involved in their cause, and who are not given a chance to defend themselves. I find it dishonorable.

Barion

I think the story is that there were 2 bombers and the first one blew himself up and happened to almost take out the 2nd bomber. The paramedics were working on him when the realized he was actually another bomber and they all cleared out. Then he started fumbling for the switch and they had to put him down basically.

[www.liveleak.com]

That link shows the video of the medics realizing wtf was going on up until the officer shoots the bomber. The video is of a news report and doesn't actually show anything graphic. It cuts off before the shooting occurs.

PlasmaMachine

SumGuy

SumGuy

reading through the thread over there was so disappointing. i hate to penalize free speech, but maybe someone should pass annalee the banhammer.

dave the wet sprocket

mhatti3000

I do appreciate the fact that a huge flame war was not dragged out because Israel was mentioned, which is what usually happens...

Metacore

Rizzuh

Gbirrueta

Bodypainter

DBag response to a story not unlike this one from a few weeks ago that I encountered. There is no use trying to convince the ignorant and naive that our world is anything but perfect. It goes without saying that a picture is worth a thousand words and obviously these pictures prompted many words from the same ignorant and naive people.

Good work, BLAM.

TJ

Arelar

JoOngle

turly

/misses Ogrish

PlasmaMachine

I've definitely seen far more voyeuristic and inappropriate shots than these, before.

dcartist

lightshow

mangochutney

Arelar

peacefulpony

Arelar

bandit

shawnmos

Look, I like Gizmodo. I check in every day in the early evening because I like how the blog is run. I appreciate compleat coverage of CES along with a good prank played thereon, and I completely loved the Halo3 thing.

And I understand when adjectives and subjective characterizations are necessary to describe, say, Apple's doubling of the iPhone's capacity, to make it appear as though it's necessary information to one's life.

There's a fine line here. You skirt it daily, and I appreciate that. I think it's necessary. But when you're posting a let's-call-it-serious post, why not let it stand for itself? This sort of post is a service to the world; why call it a "worst" shot? What's "worst" about it? That it clearly depicts something frightening and perhaps disturbing to oh-so-delicate sensibilities?

My ultimate point, Gizmodo, is that you're better than "worst" and "candy-coated."

willentrekin

JAV

jkr

JAV

Gadget Ninja

quendiljt

Secondly, never learn foreign cultures by watching Hollywood movies.

DarkMirage

--Tito--

soulman

gunbu

--Tito--

soulman

BrandonL

As gruesome as these pictures might be, they remind us of the disturbed view of reality that terrorists have as well as the bravery of those few who risk their lives daily to stop the madness.

I often say, Freedom it's not Free. It is paid by the blood, sweat and tears of those who keep us safe. God bless them and keep them safe as well.

aec007

I didn't hear about anywhere else.

People need to see this, first to show how low of a value on human life, in all it's stages, no matter what faction, country, religion, belief, and second to create a void for discussion, someone who is the relative, sibling, parent, caregiver, of this person, to maybe stop, if not at least make think, about what they are being asked to do.

Whatever was promised to this person, if anything was promised at all, could they even comprehend it?

To vilify the photographer for showing us the inhumanity being shown by all parties involved in the last moments of this person's life, and the moments following the end, is the same as denying that this event even happened.

Whatever the article(s) say surrounding the photos, or even the comments underneath, the pictures say enough already.

skulldriveshaft

If they want to be appalled and shocked by something, how about being appalled and shocked by the behavior of their fellow human beings BEFORE the bomb squad got there, when several innocent lives were obliterated by a misguided individual carrying a fistfull of explosives.

Oh, wait, they didn't see pictures of that. Out of sight out of mind, right? Yeah. Go find a vet who's just gotten back from Iraq, and tell them all bout how inhumane this kind of inspection is. They'll tell you all kinds of stories about the real inhumanity that gives these 'bots a purpose. I didn't go there, but from the things I've heard from vets, I don't think I'd be able to hack that kinda thing. They see the WHOLE picture; before, during, and after. There's a reason they go through so much de-briefing and counseling before getting out nowadays.

DirkusMaximus

vicsells

girraffesack