<![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> That's Playble.com.

hamfist

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Umm... you may as well shut down Google for every nefarious activity they link to. And damn rights Google make a lot of money. Give Pirate Bay a break - they created a popular website, and they sell advertising space. There's nothing wrong with that. Besides, despite every media outlet calling media piracy "stealing" (oooh, I wonder who holds the purse-strings), I still don't believe in imaginary property, and it looks like millions of Swedes and even more millions around the world don't either. The nature of capitalism and the nature of democracy, both of which everyone likes to tout so much, is that what the majority of people want, they get, and what the majority of people don't want, naturally goes away. Goodbye copyright, and goodbye imaginary property.

canadrian

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> First of all I have to say: Who the hell is that artist they found? I'm a Swede and I have no idea who she is.

Anyhow, as people here already said they aren't making anything more illegal than Google. If they manage to make some money of it, good for them. I buy CD's and support artists I like but I would sure buy alot more if they didn't cost $25-30...

My opinion is that CD's should be cheaper, more people would buy them and want to go to concerts, the artists would make less money from CD's and more from PERFORMING like an artist should, not just sit on their fat asses and whine.

Why does "Make a CD" = "Finacially independent foerever"? Get out and earn your money you bums...

Stentroll

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> About the lady in the end... If she just didn't automatically assume they are money hungry evil pirates, she may have found out about the Pirate Bay's project/music label Playable.com which is exactly what she was talking about word for word.

It would be the Pirate Bay, except it will only track(and maybe host a few seeders or something like that) music with the prmission of the artist, and return any profits made, covering only hosting costs. The site is online, but not yet functioning(you can read about it, but it's not tracking anything) because, I am assuming, the Pirate Bay guys are being held up by the lawsuit. That and they might not have enough artist lined up yet. She should give them a call...

Metacore

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @WEGGLES90; Funny how many people I know that "preview" songs and albums for months on end...

ghmlco

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> he set up headquarters in the same building as the anti piracy group .. XD ... pwnt nubs, i wonder when the pirate bay is gonna get around to buying that island so they can make their own laws

homeskillet81

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> is there any reason that reporter is yelling all the way through the segment? seriously she was speaking unnecessarily loudly..

aaaaaanyways, i dunno how they're equating them making money of ads with the record companies

the record companies keep cd prices high (seriously, 17 dollars for a cd that costs about 1 bucks to make is RIDICULOUS) and keep most of that profit, and really the band take little away from that amount
the pirate bay sells ad space because they need the money to keep their facilities running and need to be able to pay for the sheer amount of bandwidth they utilize

and hey, what was with that close up on the chicks tatoo...


canfezplay

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @mconheady: Ugh, you got that right. British reporters are so annoying...the ends of their sentences always drop off. Not to mention how they pronounce the "T" sounds...

*shudders*

ry_ry

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> *sigh*

difference between hopping in a car that's not yours and driving away with it vs copying a song is that the song is still sellable whereas once you steal a car the owner can't sell it anymore. Not saying that pirating is completely okay, but to any idiot claiming that there is no difference between copyright violation and theft, YOU ARE WRONG.

stop simplifying everything down to yes or no, the world is really not that simple.

Alfonzo

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> EHLAREN -
You nailed in on the head there.

I loved the page,
[thepiratebay.org]

and the fact that there is now a polictal party in Sweden supporting them them
[en.wikipedia.org]

arcticJKL

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I thinks its funny. The artist that is so affected by the pirate bay (pernilla anderson) doesn't even have a single torrent..

[thepiratebay.org]

Blinklink11

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @bandit: No, that's another question altogether. You are asking whether copyright infringement is wrong. Well, sure it is. But various people will disagree on how wrong it is. The question implicit in this article is: is the Pirate Bay doing wrong? And no, they aren't. They aren't infringing copyright, they are just telling you: hey, I saw a $20 laying on the ground over there. They aren't taking it out of anyone's pocket, they aren't handing it to you, they aren't making any choices for you or anyone. The wrongdoing is in the uploading and downloading of copyright infringing content. And only uploading is illegal.

baglunch

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> This report sounds like propaganda to me.

This is exactly how the RIAA wants ordinary people to see The Pirate Bay.

leomaia

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> *sigh* They should really focus on getting drugs and dangerous stuff, weapons, etc.. off the streets first.. Instead of focusing on the super poor artists who make only a couple million from concerts, maybe focusing on the general public wouldn't be such a bad idea?!

Katorok

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> The real question is: Would you engage in such activities if the artist were standing right there next to you? I think for almost everyone, the answer is definitely not. It's only the anonymity of the Internet that allows morally corrupt practices to continue. And of course, the anonymity of advertising dollars only reinforces the illusion that these acts are victimless and that the profit comes from nowhere. But recognize it for what it is: an illusion.

bandit

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Seriously. The reporter is so hot!!!!

Also, I use mininova.

Also, I'm glad people are finally getting it. I personally will be happy to look at some advertising in exchange for music and film. I've been digital from the beginning with music, film, and photos. The problem is that the difference between downloading for free and paying for it somehow was always so ridiculous. DRM, severe lack of content for example. LastFM has free music now. Hulu has free tv. Netflix watchnow is 9 bucks a month with one dvd going in and out of my macbook all month long! I also use emusic.

Targeting the pirate bay is stupid. It's sooooo easy to download torrents.

Make it easy and affordable to go 100 percent legal and I'm all over it.

Peace.

antidayjob

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I think that all of you are missing the point of this news clip: that reporter is HOT! ;)

martini1179

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Commonsense people. Just because the industries that have grown fat off artists have twisted your sense of right and wrong into a financial arrangements, doesn't mean the status quo model was right. Artists have been getting ripped off ten times harder before file-sharing came along. The industry goons want you to believe their model is legal because it benefits them. If artists want to be paid ridiculous amounts of money for minimal work then they should try harder. Filmmaking--oh, it doesn't actually cost that much to make a movie. Budgets are bloated by middlemen that exist in all industry. Everyone wants a piece and that is why the consumer pays for it at the end. Greed. No one comes out clean.

SinAmos

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> The only artists who are loosing out are the crappy ones. If the music is good, many will still buy it. People I know just use torrents to "preview" an album before buying it. If it's good they buy, if not they don't. The only artists who complain are the crummy ones.

WEGGLES90

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> There's only so long he can embarrass Sweden by hiding out in their printing press room. Sweden will catch him and almost kill him in some dark, dank prison. Then he'll work for the FBI chasing copyright abusers.

heroineworshipper

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I went to the BMW dealership and the dealer said I needed to pay cash down and... I said, "Yeah, whatever!" Then I was goin' on Pirate Bay, stealin' some music and the RIAA came up to me and said, "We will fine you 1,000,000 per song and..." and I said "Whatever!"

[www.youtube.com]

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @Kaiser-Machead: Really that may well very be completely off topic, and not at all an example similar to the BMW thing that I was talking about but... wow, I tip my hat to your 80's show trivia, now if you'll excuse me I think I need to go download that to keep the heat against my friend in the "find the weirdest old show" contest, if only there was somewhere I could find a torrent of that show...

what was the replica testorossa, sounds interesting because I'll never be able to afford a real one, and there cooler than the F355 I was hoping to convert a toyota MR2 into :p

LividChihuahua

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Nice job, these guys deserve zeh money. Afterall, they are nicely hosting a free site where we can grab stuff.

IrisMR

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> The pirate pay is not really doing anything wrong in my opinion. They are just pointing the people to where they can find illegal things. It's like saying "If you go to the red light district you can obtain illegal drugs". There is nothing wrong with sharing information. It is the users of the site that share the files and not the site itself so they have commited no crime. Having ads is understandable to pay for the bills considering the amount of traffic they recieve. There is nothing wrong about making extra money legally. Those people are just jealouse that they have not thought of that idea up first.

Munto

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> The same content owners that sue TPB are profiting from them: Just go to the site and you'll see ads from Fox!

PWEI

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @LividChihuahua: In the original Miami Vice series, Ferrari was pissed off at the producers for using a replica of the Testarossa. Later on, they ended up in the real thing. :P

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @ EBONE
It's not like replicating the BMW and selling it, it's like taking one for a test drive, looking at it, and building your own based on it's design, it's the same thing yes, and BMW would defiantly be pissed, but you didn't steal anything, you copyied it. And, if you did just that in your twisted form of ehlaren's analogy what can they do?

Copyright infringement is NOT theft, they are two very distinct things, both are bad but there not synonymous, despite what "the man" may want you to think.

LividChihuahua

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @skulldriveshaft: Adobe Photoshop CS3 costs over $600. How 'bout them apples?

I didn't pay squat for my CS2 Premium package.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> since when did torrent trackers become illegal?

bandwidth costs money, office space leases costs money, if they've managed to make scratch from as-clicks and page views, holy smokes, give them a medal.

you can build a tracker too, and possibly make money somewhere down the line, just get a catchy website name, and make sure you've got stable backbone internet hook ups.

for those of you arguing about theft and stealing - the amount of craptastic encoding of the movies, and music, is more than enough to make you go buy the real thing. for the software, now that is outright painful, i haven't met many people that have paid the $300 or so for a suite of adobe products.

skulldriveshaft

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @EBone: If you can find a BMW that is easily replicated at practically zero cost, then maybe your analogy would make sense. A car, or any other consumer product for that matter, is hardly the same as a file. While snagging a copy of an expensive application for free with a crack or serial through serials.wz or something is blatantly wrong, this isn't the same as robbing a dealership.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @EBone: Actually, I think the analogy is very accurate. At no point does ehlarn say it's legal to pirate content. He just says it's not the same as physical theft.

As you say, it would be IP theft if Ford did it, and either way BMW wouldn't be too happy because it would be one less sale for them. If that copying gun was ever invented you can bet that car manufacturers would be pushing for the same laws that protect to music and films to be applied to cars. Which I guess shows the analogy works.

scuba_steve

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @EBone: your just bitter because ehlaren corrected your crap analogy.

TheHun

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I guess that Google is guilty of being pornographers, because they have pointers to sites that offer pornography, and even child pornography. It looks to me that Pirate Bay is performing the same service as Google. If I want to look for a Torrent I go to Pirate Bay, if I want to look for a URL, I go to Google. What is different?

geschmidtt

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @EBone: Its hilarious how you use my ridiculous fantasy land "copy gun" that I was trying to use to show the ridiculousness of your statement trying to equate BMW theft with copying digital bits to try to further your still silly point in this argument that has long since past intelligible debate status.

[en.wikipedia.org]
"Whatever you tell yourself that helps you sleep at night I guess."

ehlaren

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @ehlaren: Actually, your scanning gun analogy is ignorant. If you scanned a BMW and replicated it, you would still be stealing copyrighted designs and work. Ford can't buy a BMW 6-series, copy it to the last detail, and then produce it and sell it. It's still design copyright theft.

Whatever you tell yourself that helps you sleep at night I guess.

EBone

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> From a legal standpoint it will be interesting to see if the Judge agrees with TPBs reasoning that they don't really do anything wrong because they don't host any of the content, just provide pointers.

The thing is: If they get hung by this then technically any search engine that links to illegal content is on the hook as well if they show ads.

This should be interesting to watch.

Snowrunner

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Look .. were is illegal, it would have been shut down by now. But it's not. Remember Maplethorpe (sp?), the art vs. not art show that got banned in many states? Here's what it boils down to, if you don't like, don't see or support it. Or in TPB's situation, don't go to their website. Simple as that.

plankbr

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @ehlaren: Oh, and I'm amazed at how many people have this romanticized view of "Pirates" in that they're only downloading stuff because they want to "stick it to the man" or that they're some kind of evil thief hellbent on possessing every piece of IP in the world.

I believe pretty much everyone on both sides of the argument is missing the bigger picture. That picture is one of (every single person I know that downloads stuff) that our culture teaches consumerism yet a very large portion of the population CAN'T AFFORD all the crap that they're told they need to buy.

ehlaren

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Hey, I was just wondering. On 1:40 the reporter is sitting next to a stack and says 'Here is a 1,500 pages worth of emails...' Am I the only one who noticed that the pile there is WAY over exagerrated!!! COME ON, a REAM of paper is 500 pages and measures about 2.5 inches, so the pile should be about 6-7 inches tall at most. Guess it doesn't look as amazing as the 3 feet tall tower next to her, which in my estimates should contain about 7200 pages... Once again, journalist sensasionalism is rampant.

Aegis2k

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @EBone:
You can't equate stealing physical property with copyright infringement. They simply aren't the same. It's like making a perfect copy of the Mona Lisa vs. stealing the Mona Lisa. If you made enough copies, the Louvre might not be very happy. But it's still simply not the same as stealing the original.

treetrunk

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @EBone: These are the most moronic analogies ever.

No its if I went down to the local BMW dealership with a gun that scanned a car then when i fired it made me a car exactly the same and I drove off in it.

I'm not trying to convince you to go out and pirate the world but saying downloading a file is the same as driving away in a BMW is ignorant.

ehlaren

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @Type-E:

that's just my thought, talk about putting a bad spin on things

they are not hosting any data that is copyrighted they are not seeding copyrighted data so how exactly can they get sued?

quite frankly these people should be going after the people on the street selling dodgy stuff and suing the hell out of them, they are making the real money out of this. meanwhile i'm happy listening to music before i buy the stuff.

Gonzie

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> srry for the double post, at first I could not see my post so I head to right it again:(

vrd

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I can understand what the video is trying to tell us, but the way it uses the poor artist pitch is really lame. The point is that I don`t really see why people are so offended by the fact that these guys are making money, also saying they are making money over something illegal is pretty silly, because countries don`t have the same laws, while in yours it maybe be considered illegal, in others it may not, you must be really ignorant if you believe that people from other countries should live by the rules of yours. PS this guy really needs all the money in the world to finally get laid:), think of it as charity

vrd

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Everyone seems to have a problem with them making money from their website. Whether they make money, and how much money they make is none of your business. It's pretty much between them and their tax man and no one else. It is LEGAL for them to run their tracker in their country, which oddly, has different laws than the US.... it not being the US. They are basically providing the card catalog to the bittorrent library. They are not providing the books themselves, just helping you find the books easier. It isn't the fault of the pirate bay that such a large percentage of torrents are illegal material, and they shouldn't be blamed for it. They are raking in the money and good for them.

baglunch

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> The pirate bay are only making money indirectly as a result of ad revenue. Whether we believe what they're doing to be illegal or not, that they are making money is purely the fault of the advertisers (or their agencies), who are choosing to pay to be associated with them.

treetrunk

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @EBone: Hey, if you leave a $100 bill on the sidewalk unattended, someone will pick it up. People take things because they can. Btw, I thought the car argument was only a PC/Apple flame war tactic!

johnnyabnormal

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> ok, music is art, right ? any one disagreeing on that ??

Last time i watched a Monet, Picasso or Matisse (TATE in London) I went in for free, i could donate 3 pounds if I wanted to...so I did.

most americans seems to look at art..sorry music..as a product, not a part of culture or art.

I read poetry, I can buy a printed poetry book, it costs what the book costs....the poets hardly make a living of it.

I watch plays, most of the are government funded to maintain a certain level of culture, the ticket price I pay is only a little part of keeping the theaters going to keep showing shakepeare and so on...and believe me Shakespeare is not a millionaire, never was, never will be...no matter how many times I watch his plays.

if you got something to say, worth saying, in a musical asset, create it and hope for donation, are you a dumb blond who mimes to pre-recording go suck (something)...

dan1el

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I can understand what the video is trying to tell us, but the way it uses the poor artist pitch is really lame. The point is that I don`t really see why people are so offended by the fact that these guys are making money, also saying they are making money over something illegal is pretty silly, because countries don`t have the same laws, while in yours it maybe be considered illegal, in others it may not, its ignorant to judge every person's actions by your rules. PS that guys needs all the money he can get so he may finally get laid:)

vrd

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @luciusad2004: Google make money off contents that they don't create as well and profit off it. Does it make them greedy?

Type-E

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I guess becuase I feel like "sharing," I should go down to the BMW dealer and tell them that I'm going to "share" one of their 6-Series for a while? It's stealing people. Calling it sharing doesn't change the fact you are mass distributing copyrighted material.

Sticking it to "Greedy Corprate America" is what the reporter says at one point in the report. So I guess instead of "sharing" a BMW 6-Series, I should go to the Cadillac dealer and "stick it to greedy coprprate America" by sharing a new Escalade instead? Does that make it alright?

EBone

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I sent these guys a $20 donation when they were trying to buy Sealand, and they were begging for people to pitch in.

Never got so much as an email saying thanks, let alone any of the things they promised when they were pleading poverty.

The only difference between a greedy corporation and a greedy bunch of hippies is that one of them has shorter hair.

permissionmag

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @TheHun:

I know, fuck me right?! Paying for things that others make! What a crazy concept!

I mean it should just be mine for free. Why? Because I feel it should...that's why! Take that copyright laws!

BonoMan

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @luciusad2004: People are missing the point. While they don't work to stop the traffic of illegal files, it's unreasonable to expect them to even try. With the millions of peers seeding and uploading content, how can any firm sift through all of the content to see whether or not something violates a copyright? The Pirate Bay isn't a store. It's not even an online warehouse of files. They're a channel. As Dearhaw: points out, Google makes lots of money through ad hits for all sorts of sites, some which are especially illegal, and are far more insidious than file sharing music, movies and applications.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Long live the Pirate Bay and the sane copyright laws of Sweden!

ProSeven

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @BonoMan: fooled? deluded? sure... whatever makes you feel better about paying for software.

TheHun

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I think the answer is pretty clear; Ban Everything!

G for GRENADE

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @scarf: I wouldn't sell a burned CD to my friend, I'd give it to them. But that's because they're my friend, not because I have some moral objection to selling things in general.

No one ever said "the point of torrents is that no one makes money". The point of torrents is that they are a good way of distributing large files. That's it. You may like to believe that torrenting a load of movies has made you the internet equivalent of Mother Teresa, but the rest of us are just using it to download files.

Anyway, none of this is relevant to the article, as TPB aren't selling you anything. You use their site, and they get ad revenue. I don't care if they say they're non-profit, a charity, modern saints, whatever.

scuba_steve

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Come on guys, Its freaking called "The Pirate Bay." They know damn well they are making money off of illegal filesharing. I can't watch the video from hear(school comp. lab) so i don't know what it may have said, but i must also agree with the people who state that, to be making this much money off of this, they must not really be "for the cause." The only thing these guys stand for is getting stuff for free and making tons of money. Sounds kind of like some other wonderful organizations that were mentioned in comments above. Maybe I'll respect it when they turn around and start writing checks to all of the artists. You can't sugar coat this. You are stealing, these guys are part of it and they are profiting.

luciusad2004

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @FullFlava:

I'm sure that with all the trillions of things that are searched on Google and the billions that they get in ad revenue, the proportionate amount that Google makes off of "illegal content" (may it be music, video, kiddie porn, etc.) far outweighs what the PirateBay makes. How do you justify that?

Not being apologetic for TPB, just genuinely curious how you would justify it.

Dearhaw

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> boy is he ugly.

stinkyboy

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Maybe they will make enough money to buy that island they wanted and setting their own government :-p

Dathmar

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> That has got to be the most annoying newscaster voice. Like fingernails on a chalkboard.

mconheady

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> so how much are they making?

RastaSega

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> While they don't actually sell the illegal content, they did come up with the name Pirate Bay for themselves.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> More power to them!

Maksimir

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> So, if I made a website that ranked #1 on google when you searched for thepiratebay and it linked to www.thepiratebay.org and had ads on it that generated millions of dollars of revenue for me would I be a dirty opportunistic thief as well?

ehlaren

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> To all the apologists: you're delusional.

I'm not going to claim to be above filesharing, but to act like they're completely innocent and not somehow making gobs of money purely off of illegal filesharing is complete and utter bullshit.

They're making money through pageviews, sure, but there would be no pageviews without the massive amounts of pirated material available through their trackers. No illegal material, no pageviews, no money. It's that simple. Do what you like, but don't try to justify it all with some obtuse bullshit logic.

FullFlava

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @scarf: The point of torrents is to be able to distribute files efficiently. They are running a tracker: That costs real dollars, and requires real money for.

The files--from their standpoint--are moot. They don't host them, only files which have a hash of the entire set. They also provide a SERVICE that allows the people who want the files to get them.

They aren't selling the torrents. They aren't selling the data contained in the torrents (The hashes), nor the data that you can get from the torrents.

They are selling a torrent tracker. Why shouldn't they get paid for their service of having a tracker up and running all the time?

dragonphyre

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @BonoMan: totally agree

MJDeviant

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> @superbad: Well in Soviet Russia... uhh hrmmm

Let me get back to you on that...

I half expected this program to show how Pirate bay was taking money away from poor russia mobsters...
Damn you Pirate Bay...

DocGratis

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> So help me out here: how is it better for the Pirate Bay to make millions of dollars and not give any to artists than it is for the RIAA/MPAA to make billions and at least give a little to the artists?

superbad

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I don't see how Pirate Bay is doing anything illegal.

xint

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> I love how they're making millions off people that have deluded themselves into thinking it's "ok." Because they're "sharing."

It's quite obvious they're doing it to make money, yet they have convinced their "customers" that they are part of some cause. Thus they gladly ignore the fact that they're clearly in it for the money. Because "hey man whatever the RIAA and MPAA suck!"

I mean they do, don't get me wrong, and they totally have to update their business models...but the Pirate Bay partners are just fooling everyone into thinking they're doing this for some sort of "damn the man" reason when it's really just to make money. Illegally.

BonoMan

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Gotta love how they consistantly hold up how torrents have to be illegal... Damn Pirate Bay! We need to get rid of these blood-sucker opportunists.... and give the money to the blood-sucking record label instead!
Of course, the Pirate Bay is only "enabling" piracy, just like how Floppy disks "enabled" software piracy in the 80s... Does that mean that Radio Shack should have been called "Pirate Shack?" Of course, if you call someone up and ask them to burn something for you, that means that your phone line is enabling piracy, with air as an implicit accomplice.... Ban the air!
The way they villanize these guys...



comp_wiz101

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> They're not making money off of other people's works though, they're making money off of page views. If they were doing something immoral by giving it's users ways to find other people's content then maybe google should be afraid...

xaksei

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> making money isn't illegal last time i checked. nor are torrents inherently illegal.

@blargh: there were rumblings about this when original Napster was going down. and again when Audio Galaxy was going down. unfortunately it makes too much sense... so it'll never happen. that or the one where you could opt for an $7/mo tax on your broadband bill. never gonna happen.

x23

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> lol, i love the bit with the starving artist. uhm... wouldn't it be great if we could setup a pirate bay that's legal... where the money went back to the artists? ok, so you're willing to give away your music and only receive small shared revenue from ad clicks? sold -- i'm in.

blargh

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> anyone got a non-youtube link?

I cannot get the goo-tube from work.

NZRUSS

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Ehh, not so much. The point of torrents is that no one makes money. When you give your friend a burned cd, it's cool. When you sell your friend that burned cd, I have a moral objection.

scarf

]]> <![CDATA[The Pirate Bay Makes Millions Not Spent On Hair Cuts]]> Good for them, with that many users they deserve to make big chunk of change.

kaylix

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