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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Bumbeldust is my site i have been making split in two surfboards for over 10 years, and they do work. As mentioned the important thing is the flex. As for the carbon fibre issue i think this board needs extra strength because it has a "superstructure" rather than using the inhehent strength of the board. <BR>British airways no longer takes surfboards full stop. And interisland flights in Hawaii you pay more for your board than your ticket. Taxis, hotels, buses, becuks, bemos, boats, it makes travelling a lot easier. It is difficult to go travelling with a normal board again.<BR>The carbon fibre looks modern but i dont think it would be too productin friendly and hence not cost effective. Not in small scale production anyway.</P></BR></BR> <p>bumbledust</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Eliboat and Liquidsoapdispenser seem to have a pretty good grasp of the subject here.  Very good points from the both of you, I just have one thing to add, OK, maybe two.</p>
<p>I managed a small surf shop for a few years and one of the local rich kids was trying to manufacture a carbon-fiber surfboard of his own in the early 90's.  From what I remember, the weak link in the chain for his idea was the carbon-fiber itself.  That type of board is just too stiff.  A certain amount of flex is necessary for the board to perform and carbon-fiber, either used as the stringer(s) or as the shell/covering, is just too stiff.</p>
<p>Not only that, but the most desirable board design varies from surfer to surfer.  How do you want your rails?  Nose?  Tail?  Thickness and width?  Anyone serious enough to throw down the cake for this type of product will surely want his/her own say in the shape.</p>
<p>If the board could be customizable and allow for some flex, it would be great, but I really don't see that happening.</p>
<p>As for the color, from what I've seen at bike shops, carbon-fiber can be painted like anything else so as to not attract too much heat.  This would save the wax, but then I guess you couldn't see the crazy-cool fiber-look.</p> <p>PlaneParts</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  The notion that boards just break every couple of waves is simply ludicrous.  As composite structures, boards really aren't heavily loaded relative to what the material properties of fiberglass or carbon can handle.  This point is validated by the fact that most boards are laminated with a very light Eglass fabric (6-10 oz) set in polyester resin over foam.  The thickness of the board provides significant form stiffness.  Carbon fiber is quite a bit stronger than E-glass, in large part because carbon fibers can be produced as continuous fibers, while E glass is composed of broken chains of fibers (S glass has more continuous fibers).  A board laminated with carbon fiber would have much better material properties than a glass one, particularly if epoxy resin was used.  To my eye (one that designs and builds composite boats and spars) , this board is a very clever design that should perform quite well.  As mentioned above, it would seem that the ultimate issue that might overcome the system would be sand grinding away at the joint.  Even the most fastidious surfer would have have problems dealing with this over time.</p> <p>Eliboat</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>what is this? a surfboard.. MADE FOR ANTS! how do you expect them to learn how to surf if they can't even fit on the board.</p> <p>shift_nismo</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4192483">yogibimbi</a>: I'm questioning a lot of what you're saying. Clark Foam is a manufacturer, not a foam type, and Clark Foam has been closed for several years (it was huge news in the surf world). Standard (non-epoxy) surfboard foam (which is what I guess you meant by "Clark Foam") certainly <b> does</b> soak up water -- that's the reason you need to fix dings! Styrofoam or extruded polystyrene core foam, however, does not soak up water, but does not work with  polyester resins that are used in standard surfboards.</p>
<p>I have no clue why you think boards break so often. I'm guessing I ride at least 3,000 waves a year here in Southern California (175+ sessions x 17 waves per surf), and I break a board in half at most once a year, and that's usually when visiting Hawaii. I admit that I break fins out and put dings in boards regularly, but usually that's when the board hits something solid, like sand, reef, or my head. If anything, the constant pounding of my feet and body against my boards are what do the most damage. Sure, a lot more boards snap in half in big wave locations, but still, you are greatly exaggerating how often boards break in two. Based on your comments, surfers would go through a dozen boards a day! At $400-$650 per shortboard, surfers are too poor to afford that!</p> <p><a href="http://liquidsoapdispenser.com/">liquidsoapdispenser</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4186137">Elvisisdead</a>: yeah, carbon fiber is really expensive.  something tells me that if this board is ever made, it will cost 10 times the price of a regular board, because carbon fiber is rediculously priced.</p> <p>rimplestultskin</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>I have a friend who surfs here in Oregon on a 2 piece board. Now if that wasn't hard core enough. He surfs in the cold Oregon water year round and the reason he has a two piece board is because he carries it in a trailer behind his motorcycle.</P> <p><a href="http://www.mac.com/louiskst">MacBandit</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4189316">DeadWriter</a>: I reckon, the whole thing is Carbon/Kevlar/glass fibre laminated with Epoxy around a foam core, as custom made surfboards usually are. No room inside for water to seep into. Maybe if it's Polystyrene, but Styrofoam or Clark Foam don't soak up much.</p>
<p>What has me disenthused, though is, that the very point a normal (e.g. in-one-piece) surfboard will break when you miss the angle to the wave (which, I imagine, happens in 8 out of 10 attempts, unless you are a pro, and then it might still be 50:50) is in the middle. And  those, what - 5cm? - long tubes will not be any protection against this. It'll break like a salt cracker. Some boards have internal carbon or plywood stringers that run vertically the whole length of the board, and even those boards break.<br>
Ok, I am a windsurfer, and windsurfboards still have to deal with A LOT more abuse from the elements (imagine waves beating at a frequency of &gt; 1 Hz against the bottom of your board, while sailing at 40-50 km/h - doesn't sound much? try it, it's both exhilarating and frightening, even if you know how to handle it), but wave surfing is no kid's play either.<br>
I have been dreaming for years of a board that inflates or can otherwise be made small, but still have not seen anything that comes even close.<br>
And, with my latest 2.15 m board, the longest parts are the (already separable) mast and sails anyway.</p>
<p>And, yep, airline regulations suck. I am moving on a regular basis with a 2.50 double boardbag and a bike bag by plane, with two big Ortlieb waterproof duffle bags thrown in for good measure. And I think, I have my equipment already reduced as far as possible...</p>
<p>Nice idea, anyway. Maybe insertable vertical carbon stringers that run the whole way from tail to nose, in parallel, 5 cms apart, might help. But, remember, you also have to pull out and insert those things with sand present. And that, my dear friends, does not only spell doom to the romantical myth of sex on the beach. Too much friction simply hurts.</p> <p>yogibimbi</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I can' help but think that this thing will spring a leak and become full of water.</p> <p>DeadWriter</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>OH NOEZ! A SHARK! Why is it attacking me?!  It is cause my surfboard is BLACK?!?!  p.s. wtb more fins.</p> <p>gizak</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4186196">igneous</a>: I once made the same mistake with some wings made from feathers and wax. THey were white of course, just I flew too close to the sun.</p> <p><a href="http://www.nzruss.blogspot.com">NZRUSS</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone's missing the fact that with airlines making it harder and more cost prohibitive to travel with boards, something like this might be the way of the future. Who knows though, it could totally suck.</p> <p>PJ_the_jackass</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Just what I want, a black board where the wax melts of as soon as the sun hits it.</P> <p>igneous</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<P>Just what I need, a black surfboard that melts the wax on it as soon as the sun hits it.</P> <p>igneous</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>If you can afford this board, you don't have the limitations of a small house or vehicle.</p> <p>Elvisisdead</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>There are already boards you can split in two, for travel... Not the best, but more portable.</p> <p>Compact</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Because sand is the place for small parts.</p> <p>strider_mt2k</p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Its like owning a Hayabusa. *will the chain lock up when I'm doin 180mph? I sure hope not!* I have a Hayabusa.. Now I really want one of these!</p> <p><a href="n/a">TKE-Egon</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>Imagine how well it holds together.. There you are, cruisin' the crest of a 10' wave, doin about 20mph. You turn into the wave to peak... snap! Thrashed..</p> <p><a href="n/a">TKE-Egon</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <description><![CDATA[<p>My first though was "wtf PS3?"<br>
But thats cool, makes you wish you were surfing...</p> <p>Andune</p>]]></description>
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