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AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

banmojo — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:26:31 EDT

My e8400 is on its way :^)))) I'm soooooo happy - new system within the month :^)))))

banmojo

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

rimplestultskin — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:20:41 EST

...so wait, my stock might actually go up from its current $7/share value and jump back up to the $35/share that i paid for it? and my favorite company to be a fanboy of will keep itself alive?

YES! win, win, and win!

rimplestultskin

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

jozzo22 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:09:01 EST

Well it doesn't matter what chip it depends how much you can overclock it for the cheapest price. Then get the same performance as the higher ends or better. I'm glad AMD has warmed up to overclockers. Being a cheap bastard I enjoy the price war because I know I can bleed performance without sacrificing stability and save cash for other cool things. Another point-- with quad cores tri-cores- duo cores don't benefit gaming but apps in XP. Jebus-- don't even think about Vista.

jozzo22

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

fusiongt — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:58:19 EST

@P3nnst8r: You didn't finish your sentence. Those were the days... of slow ass processors.

fusiongt

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

leadingZer0 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:18:25 EST

I'd hate see AMD fail. People work there, you now, and it's a reasonable place from what I gather. On the other hand, I see engineers coming from Intel drained of their will to live all the time.

leadingZer0

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

kbraun819 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:47:39 EST

@P3nnst8r: Yeah, And AMD is STILL better than Intel

kbraun819

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

Step666 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:07:31 EST

@arsenic0: he he.

But lets think about things for a second - if they can only get 3/4 cores working at 65nm, shrinking things isn't going to help; they'll probably have to sell the quads as dual-cores.

Step666

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

Step666 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:59:00 EST

@Frizzaper: last time I checked, the G0 version of the Q6600 (2.4GHz) out-performed the Phenom range up to the 9900 (2.6GHz).
And, price-wise, it's closest rival was the 9600 (2.3GHz).

So, the equivalent speed of Phenom is (was, at least) more expensive and doesn't perform as well, the closest in terms of performance is a fair chunk more expensive and still doesn't match the Q6600 and the closest in terms of price is nowhere near it in terms of performance.

I'll admit though, it has been a little while since I looked into all this in any depth and, obviously, prices will have changed. That will favour AMD more than Intel, as their prices will have dropped more than Intel's but I honestly can't imagine things have changed enough to have tipped the balance into AMD's favour in any great way.
Yes, right at the bottom end of the market they may be a bit stronger but the people who spend lots of money repeatedly are gamers and the like who always want the best that's available and, in that area of the market, AMD may as well just show a white flag.

Step666

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

desostros — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:05:04 EST

lol ! mr blahblah
keep yer stocks,cuz theyre gonne go way up again with their new htpc mobo im defo buying
and im an intel fanboi

desostros

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

Sleeper_Service — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:50:03 EST

So far behind it's embarrassing/10.

Sleeper_Service

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

MrBlahBlah — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:42:38 EST

Fuck you AMD, I lost like 70% of my investment in your stock. ugh.

MrBlahBlah

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

fsusmithc2 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:07:42 EST

I liked Intel too... until I got my Aptiva with an AMD K6-2 350mhz CPU in it. The last Intel CPU I had was a Pentium II 266 MMX.

fsusmithc2

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

Frizzaper — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:04:41 EST

@Step666: Sure they are a year behind, but the AMD Quad cores are certainly not a bad deal. Price / Performance the Phenoms are a much better deal than the Intel chips in the same price range.

Frizzaper

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

Out2gtcha — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:46:44 EST

@matt buchanan:
Wha?

Meh......let the dying die. I never really cared for AMD when they were supposedly better than Intel anyway.

Out2gtcha

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

wetboxersguy — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:39:00 EST

you guys should gloat when via is the only competitor left vs Intel...you seem to relish the idea of AMD dying...

wetboxersguy

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

ratheen — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:32:01 EST

does it get just as hot?

ratheen

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

ratheen — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:30:59 EST

does it get just as hot while using less power?

ratheen

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

ninjamurf — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:01:17 EST

@SneakerFiend: maybe when they owned Intel in the speed race for a couple of years less than a decade ago? Maybe when they brought 64 bit processors to the people, not just the server market? 64 bit processors that were fully backward compatible with 32 bit programs as well?

ninjamurf

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

fdisker — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:54:13 EST

As an intel fanboy I realize I couldn't have purchased my totally awesome E8400 for $189 without AMD putting pressure on Intel. All consumers benefit from low processor prices when we have two strong horses in the race.

fdisker

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

bobbiac — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:52:22 EST

/me gets the crash cart ready

"20 CCs of adrenaline STAT! I need some help in here!"

"CLEAR!"

*high pitched tone ensues*

LIVE DAMN YOU!

bobbiac

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

ninjamurf — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:50:21 EST

@P3nnst8r: I remember when AMD had better processors and then Intel had better processors and then AMD had better processors again and then Intel had better processors again.

I think this has been one of the major benefits of having 2 players in the market. They keep leap frogging each other with their technology and pushing the other company. Both companies have to stay on their toes much like it was with ATI and Nvidia. I hope AMD comes back strong with these chips if for no other reason than to just push Intel that much harder.

ninjamurf

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

SneakerFiend — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:46:35 EST

You just said come on AMD be awesome again..........
Please refresh me when they were "awesome" not poking fun or anything but i really cant remember when i thought AMD was awesome.
Thats just me.

SneakerFiend

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

arsenic0 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:35:26 EST

@Step666:

Dont worry they can always just ship them as 3 core processors..

*starts crying from laughter*

arsenic0

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

Part-Time-Viking — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:25:56 EST

@ARP: I doubt that AMD will die off, computer manufacturers like HP and such like putting their processors into their "affordable" units due to the lower cost of the AMD processors.

But I too hate to admit that AMD just isn't what it used to be.

Part-Time-Viking

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

matt buchanan — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:22:46 EST

@ARP: AMD thrashing Intel it was brought them back the suck last time.

matt buchanan

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

ARP — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:13:55 EST

So what happens if Intel continues to pull away from AMD. I worry that we'll be left with one "real" CPU provider and we all know a Monopoly will cause 1 of 2 things to happen: Intel gets proprietary, inflates prices, etc. or the Government busts them up and we lose some of the efficiences.

ARP

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

fastm3driver — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:10:13 EST

I still think AMD has better processor designs but they have been way behind on Manufacturing. Their Laptop chip are bad though.
In the last round Intil was able to crank up 65nm way before AMD and even with the advantage AMD was slightly better. It wasn't until core 2 duo redesign and the ability to produce mass quantities of 65nm that Intel started to pull ahead. Now with 45nm their chips are totally better but if you took a X2 AMD and die shrunk it to 45nm you could crank up the clock 20% and still lower heat and power.
Intel is moving to the integrated memory controller near the end of the year and if AMD can't ramp up 45nm very fat they are going to have very big problems.

fastm3driver

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

Step666 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:08:42 EST

*yawns*

It's all well and good saying they're going to produce 'em but given how their attempts at producing quads have gone so far, it's a little hard to get excited.
And, as Matt has pointed out, even without any delays these 45nm quads could well be a full year behind Intel's and (if current trends continue) they'll be more expensive and worse-performing too.

Step666

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

discounteggroll — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:51:08 EST

@P3nnst8r:
shh...you're dating yourself (and those around you) with words like that

discounteggroll

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

P3nnst8r — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:47:54 EST

Remember when AMD had better processors than Intel? Those were the days.

P3nnst8r

AMD Finally Shows Off Its 45nm Processors

sisedi — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:47:38 EST

PLEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEEE!

Kinda random question but I read graphics cards reviews and benchmarks and such and most of the time they set ATI cards into Intel chipsets with SLI and a dual core, is there a significant performance difference if you had an AMD chipset with say one the Phenom 9600s in there?

sisedi