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Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

Digicach — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:05:04 EDT

While Apple insists that the SDK provides the same tools used to create their own software, developers have found that they don't have access to the same low-level functions of the iPhone, such as the ability to run applications in the background, build certain types of objects, or use low-level frameworks such as CoreSurface, Celestial, or LayerKit - all of which provide direct access to graphics and sound components. These, along with many other features, are found in Apple's own applications, but nowhere to be found in the SDK.
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Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

Mfpar35 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:31:53 EDT

@LastVigilante: It's a bit confusing but I think the fee will be minimal. They HAVE to charge something for the update to the ipod touch, because of the way they have structured their accounting. With the iphone they have stretched out their revenue over two years, but with the ipod touch they collect and report the fees immediately. So because of accounting they can't just give away a update. Apple only charges $2 for their software update to have 802.11n wireless for the same reason: they have to for accounting purposes. If it's a significant fee (above $20) I'll eat my words. I just don't see that happening.

Mfpar35

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CultofMac — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:09:11 EST

@ NewRider
I think you're unstable. If you think your Blackberry is sketchy because it crashes once every THREE MONTHS you're in for a surprise, buddy. Ever owned anything with a chip in it? Their nature is to crash, just like your nature is to be a fucking moron.

CultofMac

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giodelgado — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:40:37 EST

does it bring bluetooth?

giodelgado

Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

mudman5206 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:45:47 EST

will we now be able to send and recieve photos to our phones ?

mudman5206

Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

mudman5206 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:40:32 EST

does this mean we will be able to send and recieve photos to our phone now ?

mudman5206

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imTheKing — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:00:34 EST

@ANoel: Fact of it all is you shouldnt have to reboot. And if you do, it shouldnt be on a regular basis. I leave my Mac Pro at work running for months straight, never restart only for updates which I dont even always install. All of the windows users here reboot daily.

imTheKing

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Odders3000 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:18:12 EST

If someone out there makes safari flash compatible, I will give them a life times supply of cookies.

Odders3000

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ANoel — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:57:47 EST

@regexp:
What the hell are you talking about?

My current "phone" is a HTC Touch... WM6 WiFi BT blah blah blah... I reboot just as I would my laptop or desktop... that's what a "soft reset" is... so ya, "NO BIG DEAL @ ALL".

ANoel

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LastVigilante — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:48:19 EST

From the press release:

Third party applications created for the iPhone will also run on the iPod touch, and iPod touch users will be required to purchase a software update to run these applications.

Wow, can't wait to hear what amount iPod Touch owners will be reamed out of for the same thing iPhone users are getting for free. Will this "required purchase update" need to be in-addition-to the current $20 apps update for v1.1.3, or can we forgo that purchase and wait for the SDK update? Knowing Apple, probably not.

LastVigilante

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Kyoseki — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:34:57 EST

@otherorange: It's still a phone, every other mobile device out there has support for windows based development, why shouldn't I expect it? My IDE doesn't have to run in PalmOS to develop for it.

It's obvious that they want to integrate with Windows based deployments, hence the ActiveSync and Exchange support and the last time I checked, most bespoke software wasn't written with xcode.

Kyoseki

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imTheKing — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:28:27 EST

I can tell you for sure that Windows Mobile requires a restart on a very regular basis due to all of its issues. Between that and the locking up of the damn OS on the phones, companies have IT teams specifically to battle it.

imTheKing

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newgalactic — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:01:28 EST

Any word on expanding the bluetooth stack to include additional profiles. I know that's approaching the gray area between hardware/software/firmware, but thought I'd ask.

newgalactic

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newgalactic — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:59:44 EST

@regexp: Both of my iPhones occasionally need a reset too. By your statement, that's also totally unacceptable.

newgalactic

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frigg — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:52:23 EST

@sgodun: granted.

frigg

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NewRider — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:49:07 EST

I reset my Palm OS Treo (or it crashes) about once every 3 months. To me, even that is too much.
Granted, OS X on the iPhone does a lot more than what my Palm OS device does. But I'm not switching to something even more unstable than the phone I have now.
Someone better fix something.

NewRider

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regexp — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:29:30 EST

@anoal
"no big deal @ all."

It is a big deal and completely unacceptable for a device like a phone.

regexp

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sgodun — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:20:03 EST

I want just ONE more announcement:

"All of this -- SDK, games, AIM, enterprise email, etc -- is ALSO available on the iPod Touch."

sgodun

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ANoel — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:12:57 EST

@imTheKing:
I really disagree... but that may be only because I've used various iterations of Windows Mobile since before CE 3 and have been trained... or brainwashed =^\

ANoel

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otherorange — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:11:01 EST

@Kyoseki:

For all intents and purposes the iPhone is a Mac. And you're complaining that you need a Mac to write Mac software?

I really hope that was meant as a joke. Cause if not, that's damn near the stupidest comment I have ever heard.

otherorange

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ANoel — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:07:12 EST

@Buzzed:
"How many times a week do you need to reset your phone?"

Not as often as I flush the toilet...
I soft reset maybe every couple of days just to clean out "whatever"... no big deal @ all.
I hard reset when I want to try out a new ROM... maybe every month or two.

ANoel

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imTheKing — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:07:09 EST

@ANoel: Windows Mobile is HORRIBLE. Once youve learned that, you'll be able to live at the rank of a normal human being.

imTheKing

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raff — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:01:11 EST

The developer site is currently down for mantainance, so it could be sooner than you expects :)

[developer.apple.com]

raff

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Kyoseki — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:01:03 EST

What? No Visual Studio support? Come on, not everyone wants to have to buy a Mac just to code toys for their phone.

Kyoseki

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phoomp — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:59:06 EST

All these announcements ... any mention of "when"?

phoomp

Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

Samifumi — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:57:22 EST

Should we expect a "How to Do Everything with Your Iphone" 2nd edition soon?

Samifumi

Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

Samifumi — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:54:16 EST

Any mention of 3G? Didn't think so.

Samifumi

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zombo — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:52:02 EST

ActiveSync sucks balls... glad I'm on a Mac now.

zombo

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iTheophilus — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:51:12 EST

?@Kaiser-Machead: The Soviets made chastity belts? Are you sure

iTheophilus

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lafond66 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:49:21 EST

"• Has all audio/video capabilities:"
except .swf ...

lafond66

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Buzzed — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:48:06 EST

@ANoel: Could be basic Windows Mobile functions, but even your Windows phone can't handle basic functions. How many times a week do you need to reset your phone?

Buzzed

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ANoel — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:47:49 EST

@Kaiser-Machead:
Good point. Me too.

ANoel

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tonashideska — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:43:49 EST

But can you still make phone calls with it?

tonashideska

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zincrox — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:39:12 EST

every 5 seconds i am updating the posts from loads of websites

zincrox

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The Full English Please!! — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:37:21 EST

know unlock the bleeding phone....

The Full English Please!!

Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy! — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:35:55 EST

@ANoel: But without Windows' basic user interface. I smell win.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

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AhnyerKeester — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:34:19 EST

ActiveSync??!! I can has corporate iPhone now? Plzkaythx!!

AhnyerKeester

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ANoel — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:34:01 EST

This is basic Windows Mobile functionality *yawn*.
How much?

ANoel

Apple Reveals iPhone SDK

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy! — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:29:58 EST

NO! I call shenanigans. It's going to come locked tighter than a Soviet chastity belt, and will require you to dance on a mailbox and say "Oh God" three times!

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

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schrosa — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:27:06 EST

"New enterprise tools that will allow for push e-mail/calendar/contacts"

This is basically BlackBerry functionality, correct?

WOOHOO!!!!

schrosa

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zincrox — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:25:52 EST

woo again

zincrox