The Great Aussie Evil

"Although I'm not saying anyone here is but I'm tired of the typical know-nothing American who just joins the band wagon for fun." -MBPro

Surely the first words of all dignified debates.

Claystil

Wait, you just gave me a response.

Claystil

Why would you bring up other attrocities? We're talking about Tibet and China. If WWII becomes relevant, then let's talk about WWII. Until then, what's the point?

China's changed, huh? Is that why every human rights org. in the world still acknowledges that Tibetans are still tortured and executed for peaceful demonstration? Is that why I've personally MET tibetans who've been RECENTLY tortured?

And I absolutely agree that non-violence is the best route, but the Chinese lit the fire ages ago. You can't put blame for these deaths on the shoulder's of Tibetans. That's wholly ignorant of history and what happens when one government systematically tries to erase the culture of a people through violence and forced migration. If this had happened in any culture other than Tibet, serious riots and even armed uprisings would have errupted decades ago, so don't pull the blame card on the Tibetans.

Claystil

But seriously, I want a net gun. RUN DRAMA, RUN!!!!

MaseMase

The Dalai Lama has advocated peaceful settlement for decades. Heck, after all they've endured through, at this point I wouldn't blame them for going into a full blown revolution.

Guizzy

But for modern China now things are different. Don't tell me they're murdering tens of thousands of Tibetans and etc, etc. You want to pull that bullshit then I'll bring in what the Japanese did to the Chinese, what Nazi Germany did to Jews, what US did to African Americans and the Native Americans, and so on.

Every country has shit to deal with.

PEACEFULLY demonstrating is the BEST way to get international attention. You think countries want to rally on for Tibet now as there are VIOLENT RIOTS? Hell no.

Tibetans have NO RIGHT to destroy property and attack other citizens. The Dalai Lama needs to stress PEACEFUL demonstrations before condemning China. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Now if you want to actually debate instead of typing in a quick cocky response, I'll dignify you with a response next time.

MBPro

faabshaam

singlecoilpickup

@MBPro: Right, So Tibet has no right to riot after the Chinese government has exhibited decades of effort to systematically erase Tibetan culture by torturing and murdering ten's of
thousands of Tibetans - what they received for protesting peacefully? Oh, but CCTV says otherwise. My apologies.

Claystil

His uncle and cousin were burned to death, while his wife suffered serious injuries, CCTV said.

"My cousin only turned 18 in December. She didn't dare jump when the stairs below were burning," Peng said in tears.

MBPro

MBPro

The Dalai Lama cannot justify any police brutality. It's going to happen (people dying) if you start attacking. They even attacked innocent Chinese citizens.

There's two sides to every story.

If they keep this up, I have no sympathy for them. It's a slippery slope downward.

** Disclosure: I am Chinese.

MBPro

strider_mt2k

Monsieur.Mind

Abnormal

The US military develops a microwave pain ray: cool!
The Chinese police develops nets: evil!

Guizzy

@Guizzy: I understand where you're coming from. Likewise, I wasn't trying to minimize human rights violations perpetrated by the U.S. government by mentioning some perpetrated by the Chinese government.

Claystil

I don't mean to minimize what happens in China, I'm simply sick and tired of the double-standard that is regularly applied to China. Had this weapon been developed in the United States, we wouldn't heard had any concerns about what this would be used for. Might even have had a few people thinking this is a "freedom weapon to catch 'em all stinky terrorists".

Guizzy

itouchgadgetsinappropriately

Lorne

Lorne

MasterSauce

That said, I have met several people tortured by the Chinese government and having studied Chinese history (as well as American), I can promise you that torture in China is as commonplace as prisons an execution.

I can also assure you the U.S. government doesn't use rubber bullets and nets trying to capture the folks they torture. If they've captured someone it's because they surrendered their arms before they were killed. The Chinese, since they're typically torturing civilians, are more inclined to use non-lethal methods of capture.

There's also, to me, a pretty big difference betwene water boarding and decades of electricl torture, beatings, starvation. All of which the Chinese will readily extend to the family of the "criminal."

Claystil

MONSTERGOC

xxBetaMaxxx

Isn't it the US where presidential candidates consider waterboarding to be a a-ok way of obtaining information?

Reading the Amnesty International files on the USA and China, they pretty much both seem to be pretty awful. Before pointing the failings of another country to make themselves feel better about their own human right abuses, perhaps americans should put the effort into cleaning up their own act.

Guizzy

gusnyc.com

Claystil

Guizzy

sansovino

Kaiser-Machead

NightElfMohawk

dufus

Great product though. Could be so much better for law enforcement to use than tasers and guns.

se7a7n7

Guizzy

SGJ

Mr. Black

Carry on. :)

sgodun

Out2gtcha

Claystil

frieze

@nutbastard:

"Where DO you get those wonderful toys...."

Jay (not the Joker)

Out2gtcha

ANoel

Bring me the priest.

strider_mt2k

jackfrost132

FrellingDominar

nutbastard

CColdsmoke

GiltProto

Lorne

nutbastard

nutbastard

"This is the first net gun I've used that actually works!"
-Brock Samson

Lorne

Serolf Divad

tonyn84

dwight-schrute

"Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would've immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun."

CubFan81

rawtoast

TonyTriple

Side Note: In one clip, the guy had a gun. I've got a feeling someone would get shot.

vagrant

I want one of these... bad

clyparkr

Jesus Diaz

CaptInfuriate