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Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

danrod43 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:22:03 EDT

@kibets:
you're such a fag

danrod43

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

VNSROCK — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:17:35 EDT

I won't buy another iPod player until Apple offers some sort of music subscripton. (And over the years, I've bought a ton of iPods). With roughly 4,000 tunes (most ripped from CD's) in my library, I own most of what I want.

What I want now is the ability to listen to music I wouldn't otherwise buy. I enjoy a Rhapsody subscription at home, but haven't found a portable yet that I would buy for the "to go" service.

VNSROCK

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

keysereble — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:16:52 EDT

if DRM free and in a more universal format, i will drop zune and get an ipod.

they need to read a page from amazon's book.

keysereble

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

sharmanova — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:34:35 EDT

This makes no sense. With a Vegas Buffet music subscription, why wouldn't you just download, umm, everything?

And once again Vader is in the cafeteria line without a tray. Mr. Steven's shant be pleased.

sharmanova

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

Xenocide — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:46:29 EDT

Woooooooooooooo!
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Nevermind, Meh.

Xenocide

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

illpacin0 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:03:38 EDT

DRM-free and an optional 320 bitrate, you could sign me up.

I don't see how artists would benefit though.

illpacin0

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

helix — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:19:42 EDT

Your going to need a tray.

helix

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

jethrobrewin — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:12:10 EDT

any inclusion of a rental or subscription method would purely be apple adopting a 'me too' mentality to compete with the zune pass, and nokia, rather than a true heart-felt attempt at getting it right.

except of course, the zune pass isn't limited to one model from the range, and never will be.

jethrobrewin

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

Micah643 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:21:46 EDT

We should all limit our dowloads for a while and see if that has any influence

Micah643

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

lianna_g — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:37:45 EDT

From the cited article:

One executive said the research had shown that consumers would pay a premium of up to $100 for unlimited access to music for the lifetime of the device, or a monthly fee of $7-$8 for a subscription model.
Apple, which is thought to make relatively little money from the iTunes store compared with its hardware sales, is also understood to be examining a subscription model.

Subscriptions would work only for its iPhone devices, where it has a monthly billing relationship with customers through the mobile phone operators offering the device, while the "comes with music" model would work with iPhones and with iPods.

The subscription models under discussion in the music industry include the provision for customers to keep up to 40 or 50 tracks a year, which they would retain even if they changed their device or their subscription lapses.

So the devil is in the details, of which there are precisely ... none. Too soon to tell. I'll weigh on and say the lack of a subscription model is what keeps me from going into Apple offerings more than I have. I know it's hard for applets to understand this ... but there really is a business model which allows choice in this area ... subscribe OR own-you can chose. It really isn't that complicated of a proposition to understand. Given the ubiquity of the iPod ... this would seem to be a no-brainer ... some sort of scheme like this would result in an entirely new revenue stream.

lianna_g

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

Machines — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:27:57 EDT

I still refuse to rent music.

Machines

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

matt buchanan — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:05:39 EDT

Insightful, even.

matt buchanan

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

matt buchanan — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:05:26 EDT

@robbywil: Wow. A truly insighful comment. Thank you.

matt buchanan

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

Mike918 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:30:58 EDT

If its $100 for a lifetime and i can listen the songs on my computer i would be completely sold...with or without the DRM :P

Mike918

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

Rob C — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:26:38 EDT

The only time I ever use iTunes is when I want to download a song that isn't common enough to be found on any popular P2P networks.

99c is a reasonable price to pay.

Rob C

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

DawnOwar — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:35:42 EDT

Napster and Rhapsody have been doing this. I love it. I get to download whatever/whenever for $15. I think I get 3 computers and 3 mp3 players the files (with DRM) will work on, but considering I only have 2 computers and 2 players that suits me fine.

Best part is I can (and do!) change it constantly. I have a short attention span. Only thing that'd make it better is if more record labels were participating. Some of them only have 30 sec clips and I hate that.

I hardly think this idea is revolutionary, but if apple gets on board we'll likely get ALL music on subscription services in the future and that'd be ideal.

DawnOwar

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

kibets — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:03:39 EDT

Best part about my Zune is the Zune Pass subscription. I could care less about owning music. Same with DVD, Blu-Ray. I'd never be fool enough to be paying .99 for a single track on iTunes.

kibets

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

tamoko — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:52:21 EDT

@sumocat: It creates an even bigger steamroller to smash the competition. Jobs might be flighty sometimes, but if he puts this into action, it will push physical music sales even further down the toilet. Maybe then the RIAA will figure things out, and pull their upper torsos out of each others asses.

tamoko

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

sumocat — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:29:43 EDT

I vote "total domination". Anti-iTunes folks persistently cite the lack of an all-you-can-eat option as the holdout issue for them, which is certainly a valid issue. Take out that roadblock and the other guys get cut off at the feet. They better hope it doesn't happen.

sumocat

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

MBPro — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:25:56 EDT

@mferrari: "Or, at least, let me buy a nano and if I decide to upgrade to a classic or touch, let the songs be used on those too. I would be O.K. with brand-specific limits, since I think iPods are the only good MP3 player choice at this time. "

That is possible... right? I think it would be stupid for Apple to not let you upgrade your product and not be able to use the music ...

MBPro

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

eliteeggnog — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:19:43 EDT

I would pay $100 for lifetime free music downloads for my iPod/Phone/Tunes...

eliteeggnog

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

scoobydoo — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:14:10 EDT

@Spyrojoe: Apparently it does NOT include Online sales:

[www.betanews.com]

scoobydoo

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

pipper — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:03:46 EDT

Looks like 99 Ranch market(bay area) Lunch box Isle.

Do I get a price?

pipper

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

robbywil — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:02:11 EDT

@Kaiser-Machead:
Good question. So if a company sells hardware packaged with software, and offers free updates to the software, then they have to defer the revenue on the sale triggered by the software. By charging for updates the company can recognize all the revenue up front on the sale. So as soon as anything packaged with the hardware triggers revenue deferral, the company has no reason to charge for software updates any more (except for greed) since they'll have to defer anyways. If the subscription is built into the price, my guess is it would trigger revenue deferral on the hardware and then there would be no purpose in charging for subsequent SW updates. If the subscription is sold separately, then I'd get ready to keep forkin' over your dough.

robbywil

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MBPro — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:56:15 EDT

psh. first time it didnt load and when i retype it it shows up.

MBPro

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MBPro — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:55:50 EDT

mmm Chinese buffets. No doubt the greasy American kind. With some fobby name.

SUPER DUPER BEIJING/SHANGHAI GREAT WALL OF CHINA DRAGONS BREATH BUFFET

MBPro

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MBPro — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:51:48 EDT

mmmmm greasy chinese buffets. no doubt from somewhere that had either "dragon" or "great wall" in the title.

Or maybe "SUPER".

SUPER DUPER BEIJING/SHANGHAI GREAT WALL OF CHINA DRAGONS RULE BUFFET.

MBPro

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

xgenius — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:51:27 EDT

But I thought "people want to own their music"

Jobs lies again.

xgenius

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

Spyrojoe — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:33:36 EDT

@scoobydoo: No, they're talking online, although I understand how it's hard to believe. I don't know anyone that's bought music from Wal-Mart online.

Spyrojoe

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

raidenskylar — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:30:39 EDT

KK minus all the sprawling Fanboyism (Yes Scoobydoo I mean u) - True, no music rental service has set foot on to prime time music distribution chains yet. But (and yes I know it failed; that is for other reasons inapplicable to Apple) as seen with companies like Qtrax and other of the same idea (Google), free music distribution could work as a real business model. Just think about it, either for flat fees to cover the projected download or coverage via advertisement (Qtrax/ Google) the idea really isn't too farfetched.

Beside most of America is old and computer illiterate, what an easier way to leech from Wal-mart that to offer an "easier" alternative.

raidenskylar

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Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E fetish — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:28:44 EDT

So now I have one more question:

If iTunes gets a subscription, would this mean that all iPods would be able to be accounted for under a subscription model, thus get updates/new applications for free?

Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E fetish

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

scoobydoo — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:24:03 EDT

@MagnoliaBoy: I'm fairly sure that Walmart is only nr.1 in retail music sales, not online.

scoobydoo

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

MagnoliaBoy — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:21:59 EDT

So, why exactly is Walmart no.1? Is it die hard loyalists, or are the devices themselves pushing their revenue cycle? Better markup maybe?...

MagnoliaBoy

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mferrari — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:17:46 EDT

I'd only pay $100/device if the songs could be stored on a computer (and played on one as well). And I want the songs DRM free, too. This isn't going to happen, but if 1/3 of the device cost is for music, I expect it to be non device-specific.
Or, at least, let me buy a nano and if I decide to upgrade to a classic or touch, let the songs be used on those too. I would be O.K. with brand-specific limits, since I think iPods are the only good MP3 player choice at this time.
I've started to hate my Zune. The software is atrocious.

mferrari

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scoobydoo — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:16:42 EDT

@Kaiser-Machead: Lots of things don't become a success till Apple shows them how to do it.

The MP3 player wouldn't be where it is today without Apple, same goes for USB, WiFi and Firewire.

scoobydoo

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speakerwizard — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:16:11 EDT

these all you can download deals always have lots of restrictions and small print, i hope its not true, apple likes everything to be laid out simple, like their product range or phone tariffs.

speakerwizard

Financial Times: iTunes All-You-Can-Eat Music Downloads Coming

thechansen — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:15:36 EDT

I was going to say the same thing. Has any music rental plan ever really worked? I'm sure my parents would enjoy it because it makes it easy to fill an mp3 player.

thechansen

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Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E fetish — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:11:33 EDT

Jobs has been known to go back on his claims, but I have serious doubts about this. Are comparable services even really successful right now?

Kaiser-Machead's WALL-E fetish