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Verizon's Open-Door Policy: What It Actually Means

Shuft — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:15:39 EDT

Does this mean I'd have to:
1. import a phone from Korea
2. send it to Verizon for 8 weeks
3. pray that they don't find some little thing that doesn't meet their terms
or is it likely they'll just preemptively ok most current CDMA phone models that are compatible with their networks?

Also, just a suggestion, but maybe you should put in parentheses "no, the iphone won't work in this instance" every time you talk about anything that isn't GSM.

Shuft

Verizon's Open-Door Policy: What It Actually Means

WolfDemon — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:47 EDT

While the network is good and all...I just hate that I can't find any great phones that use CDMA frequencies. Everything I find that I really want is for GSM...

WolfDemon

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jcrockerman — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:19:00 EDT

@dead_red_eyes: wow.... that went way over your head...LOL

jcrockerman

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dead_red_eyes — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:08:08 EDT

@MikeSWelch: - "WHAT THE FUCK IS AN IPHONE?!?"

[www.apple.com]

dead_red_eyes

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Garth Knight — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:06:47 EDT

So... Can I get Verizon to "unlock" the functions on my Motorola that they have disabled? It would be nice to use the phone as it was designed.
Before looking at bringing new phones over to Verizon, I want to look at the phones that are already part of Verizon in a new light... This opening up for development could be looked at as a chance to remove some of Verizons' GUI limitations on current phones.
...Thoughts?

Garth Knight

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MikeSWelch — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:36:55 EDT

@Y2KGTP: @WildWon: @drewdraws2: WHAT THE FUCK IS AN IPHONE?!?

MikeSWelch

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thorshammer — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:16:04 EDT

@nucwin83: That was the first question I had.:/

thorshammer

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ibelli — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:09:21 EDT

@WildWon: Moto Q is the worst phone EVER made. Period.

ibelli

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doofusgumby — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:05:17 EDT

Now if the big evil V would quit blocking google maps' access to the gps chip in the freakin' blackberries. vznavigator is nice and all, but I don't need to spend 10 bucks a month for some robo-bitch to tell me where to turn.

doofusgumby

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jperry2010 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:24:49 EDT

@strider_mt2k:
You do realize that the Rumor and the Voyager are about the same size, no?

There really is very little difference in size between the two if you compare them.

jperry2010

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rimplestultskin — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:55:24 EDT

this more or less deals with all of the restrictions verizon has been pushing too hard over the years.

let's hope that sprint matches verizon's offer. pantech's SKY phones are fucking nuts, and i wouldn't mind importing one.

rimplestultskin

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JiveMasterT — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:46:57 EDT

I wonder if this means that they will enable the GPS for any application on the blackberries. Sure would be nice to use google maps with real GPS instead of just using the triangulation stuff.

JiveMasterT

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Bender — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:21:16 EDT

@shaniac:

I'm pretty sure that's not up to Verizon.

I don't think Verizon devices are so much locked into Verizon's network by Verizon as they are locked out of other carriers networks by the other carriers.

If Sprint decideds to open their network, I can't think of anything that Verizon could do that would prevent you from using a Verizon branded device on Sprints network.

What I really want is the opportunity to use a phone without the crappy feature crippling Verizon software slapped on it.

Bender

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Razta — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:15:02 EDT

I phone would be a cool choice, but I like my Palm Centro. It would be great if I could move that over to Verizon and get EVDO on it in my area. For some reason Sprint won't bring EVDO to the third largest city in Arizona.

Razta

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TechnoElf — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:28:21 EDT

With Verizon going LTE, LTE being on the GSM upgrade path, AT&T will probably going LTE as well. So perhaps then you can get your precious iPhone. Assuming that there will be a iPhone with a LTE reciever in it compatable with the 800, 1900, and the probably needed 700 mhz bands. So need to wait it out. Until then GSM does not play with CDMA.

TechnoElf

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poorGeek — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:19:40 EDT

@nucwin83: I hear you, I'm switching at the end of my contract because of the headset only bluetooth, total crap!

poorGeek

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SLiSH — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:12:50 EDT

ok so im looking at the palm centro from sprint. i know i cant switch the phone over from sprint it verizon, but will i still be able to use sprint tv for nfl mobile??

anyways the sprint all in plan is really tempting 99 a month for unlimited everything.

verizon's plans are just to expensive for me

im still a little confused on all of this will i have 2 bills for 1 phone now??
1 from sprint for their sprint tv ect and one from verizon??

SLiSH

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nikkomorocco — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:06:32 EDT

@imTheKing: unlock and go with t-mobile???

nikkomorocco

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erikop — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:55:18 EDT

Most dummies realize that GSM is the legacy network not CDMA. Have you ever noticed that WCDMA and HSDPA are replacing GSM? LTE is neither GSM nor CDMA based. LTE is based on OFDMA. Good luck.

erikop

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WildWon — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:50:51 EDT

@drewdraws2: Oh i didn't see you answered before the other gent. Sadly, thanks for that answer.

WildWon

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imTheKing — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:39:06 EDT

@drewdraws2: Correct! unfortunately :(

I want an iPhone damn it. And I will NOT use ATT

imTheKing

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WildWon — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:31:27 EDT

@nucwin83: Goooood question. I forgot about that little bluetooth catch of Verzion.

@Le0nidas: Ah, gotcha. Hmm, well i'm *hoping* someone will correct you ;)

WildWon

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archaeology_dude — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:29:40 EDT

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the iPhone is no.

CDMA has it's advantages, but it sucks that Sprint, Verizon, and a few regional carriers are all that use it. As a Sprint SERO user with a Mogul and RevA, it's GREAT speed. I'd love an iPhone, but integrated GPS + RevA is way to hard to give up right now...Plus I pay a LOT less than Verizon costs...

archaeology_dude

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Le0nidas — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:25:19 EDT

@Y2KGTP: @WildWon:

"Sure, as long as they run on the same CDMA frequencies as Verizon's network-800 and 1900MHz, are the North American CDMA bands."

I'm sure someone will correct me if im mistaken, but I dont think the Iphone can run on CDMA, only GSM.

Le0nidas

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nucwin83 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:15:04 EDT

But will they allow their regular handsets a full Bluetooth profile now, and not the "Headset only" bs?

nucwin83

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Gerard Drewpardieu — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:14:55 EDT

To all the iPhone questions, the answer as usual is NO. The iPhone is GSM and won't work on the CDMA network (and never will, I'd imagine). It's like playing a blu-ray disc on an HD-DVD player. They look the same, but are completely incompatible.

Gerard Drewpardieu

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jamar0303 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:14:48 EDT

@satoru: Maybe you haven't heard of SK Telecom? They're pretty major- so major that they've set up shop in the States. Y'know, Helio?

And on the topic of AU- none of those phones will work in the States due to an ESN incompatibility. Look at the ESN on a Japanese phone and compare to the ESN on an American phone. Yeah.

jamar0303

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LJN — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:13:09 EDT

I don't care what they do in the technological world, I just think they owe it to mankind to take the "Can you hear me now?" commercials off the air. Wake me when they make that announcement.

LJN

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Gerard Drewpardieu — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:12:33 EDT

This seems to me to be a last-ditch push by Verizon to keep their silly CDMA network from becoming completely obsolete in a GSM world. Basically they're saying "look, we're like GSM, you can buy an unlocked phone and use it on our network", except you can't if you ever leave the US or want a really cool phone like an N96.

Then they'll go to LTE 4G and they'll probably try to close things up again.

Gerard Drewpardieu

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WildWon — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:12:13 EDT

Well, i'm not the quickest with cellphone tech.... so i have one question.
I'm on Verizon and i'm very curious about the iPhone. Will i be able to purchase an iPhone and use it to replace my current phone?

(Not saying i will, because i love my Q, but the curiosity is there... and just having the option would be pretty badass.)

WildWon

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jamar0303 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:10:45 EDT

If you're dreaming of bringing a Korean CDMA phone over to Verizon, you'll have to work for it. Korean phones are identified by MIN/MDN (don't ask me how) instead of ESN so the ESN isn't on the back of the phone; you'll have to do some digging with BitPIM or something to find it.

jamar0303

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Y2KGTP — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:06:03 EDT

iPhone?

Y2KGTP

Verizon's Open-Door Policy: What It Actually Means

satoru — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:06:00 EDT

Can I move my old Sprint or Helio phone-or get really crazy and bring a Korean CDMA phone-over to Verizon Wireless?

This is pretty useless. Not many companies outside of the USA even use CDMA. The only 'major' one that does is Japan's Au network. But I seriously doubt Verizon is going to let you do even 1% of the cool stuff those Japanese phones do on their network.

satoru

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sicknick — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:04:07 EDT

I recently left Verizon for ATT, basically because I wanted a phone that could do the thing I wanted without all the bs Verizon stuff. I settled on an HTC 8525 for a balance in function, use and price.

strider- I used to think the same thing, but switching to the 8525 was an even bigger block. Took about two weeks to get used to, and I fixed the problem of smaller jeans pockets by buying a couple pairs of carpenter jeans. The phone fits snugly in one of the hip pockets that I otherwise never used.

sicknick

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shaniac — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:59:01 EDT

But will they let you port off of their network. Will they unlock their devices?

shaniac

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strider_mt2k — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:51:51 EDT

I'd like to try that Sprint LG Rumor on Verizon and see how it does.
I'd love a QWERTY for texting, but the Voyager is quite large for a pants pocket.

strider_mt2k