<![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari - Gizmodo Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gizmodo.com.png <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari - Gizmodo Comments]]> http://gizmodo.com Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:25:59 EDT Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:25:59 EDT http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c5015677 I did a write up on this at my blog.

I don't see this as putting Apple into a better light. I use Opera on Windows, on Fedora 8, and on my Mac.

I agree Safari is an improvement over IE, but I only run IE (and that through IE Tabs in Firefox) when I'm running Windows udpates or some such which requires IE.

Sure, I'd rather see my mom use Safari than to see her use IE--but I already installed Opera for her too. She loves it.

Why is Apple bothering old ladies?

JamesIsIn

]]> 4:370832:c5015677 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:25:59 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4839336 Yeah, I wasn't very happy about seeing this in my Apple Update window. It really surprised me. However, being the good little geek, I simiply clicked "Cancel" it magically disappeared! I love magic!

Incidentally, you can remove IE from Windows, through "Add and Remove Windows Components". Obviously, the main structure is there as "explorer.exe", but the IE program will be removed. You just have to be careful of the automatic updates, because they'll install it without you knowing.

dtaschler

]]> 4:370832:c4839336 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:57:18 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4835860 Apple really wants me to stop using any product of their manufacture if they keep up this forceware BS.

Fire your forceware gorilla marketing asshats ASAP Apple. they are not helping you.

axiomatic

]]> 4:370832:c4835860 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:06:16 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4834943 With Microsoft's experience in forcing the use of IE to dominate the market years ago - Apple should be careful with stunts like this. Especially considering how iTunes has become the IE of music and videos for portable devices.

totoro

]]> 4:370832:c4834943 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:15:21 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4826763 @matt buchanan: and
@allthosemoments: and
@TKWarrior: and
@kylo4: They do give you the option of downloading them independently if you look for it. The best way to avoid this "push" annoyance is to either not allow the install of the Apple Updater, or to uninstall the Apple Updater, which you can do without uninstalling the application you acually wanted such as Quicktime.




Zlevee

]]> 4:370832:c4826763 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:06:40 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4823930 @graham1010: It's more like cult-leader-itis. They know that they can do anything and the fanboys will still bow before them. Now they're trying to back door more members in.

TrikeKid

]]> 4:370832:c4823930 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:02:03 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4823506 Apple is getting big-company-itis. Adding software (unsolicited) pisses people off. Stop doing it.

graham1010

]]> 4:370832:c4823506 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:07:10 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4822870 Apple attaches everything to whatever you want... and I don't want Quicktime. Only iTunes. Now it's worse...

Dooga

]]> 4:370832:c4822870 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:44:11 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4822777 I'm waitnig for FireFox 3.0 Final.

perrobg

]]> 4:370832:c4822777 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:03:48 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4822598 Majority of people using windows already have IE unless they uninstalled it, and for a lot they also have Firefox. I keep my IE for the lack of plug in support for the Firefox 3 beta. But when there are a numerous amount of windows users with two internet browsers already why would they download a third???

ajlafontaine

]]> 4:370832:c4822598 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:00:00 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4822585 IMHO, Safari still blows on OS X. It's not skinnable, and the tabs do not show the favicons.

The Great Aussie Evil

]]> 4:370832:c4822585 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:55:40 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4822441 Safari is getting better and better everyday. I have switched from Opera to Safari, at least on Mac OS X. Firefox who?

phytonix

]]> 4:370832:c4822441 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:25:42 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4821459 @AlexLand: of course, let's bend over.

foureight84

]]> 4:370832:c4821459 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:15:19 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4820520 i didn't even think OSX users used safari...

jbhitter24

]]> 4:370832:c4820520 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:44:49 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4820475 Ironically, this update actually adds security holes to your system.

Darkest Daze

]]> 4:370832:c4820475 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:40:31 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4820037 @Pender: No, no it isn't. Firefox developed market share because it's main competition (IE) is terrible, and when people started asking "what else can I use?" the answer they got from their tech-saavy friends/children was: Firefox.

Safari is absolute garbage on Windows. Well, I should say, 3.0 was enough that I won't let it back on my computer again. Aside from crashing near constantly and being incompatible with almost every web-app I use, it makes no effort to fit in with the operating system. Different keystrokes, the fact that you can (perplexingly) only resize a window from the bottom right corner, and the terrible Mac font anti-aliasing thing (please, Apple- steal ClearType. Microsoft's not looking)...it doesn't fit.

Topcat

]]> 4:370832:c4820037 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:53:20 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4819859 They seem to have always bundled iTunes or Quicktime with something, whether it be one or the other. Thing is, they are deceiving users by saying it's an "update" when it's just installing the program.

The browser itself on Windows is not impressive, and even IE looks better. I use a Mac, and I don't even use Safari, it's Firefox all the way for me.

kylo4

]]> 4:370832:c4819859 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:34:02 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4819740 @nutbastard, Curves, Strider, and Schrutebuck:

STARS!?!?!?! They're giving these people STARS!?!?!?

Its been over a week and I can't even get my account approved--oh, wait...I can read this NOW...I guess my account HAS been approved...

Umm, well, errr...

My sincere congrats on the stars!

(I actually HAVE been reading Giz long enough to know that it IS well deserved.) :^)

NumbersGuy

]]> 4:370832:c4819740 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:22:36 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4819549 Don't forget that browser makers get a cut of each Google ad clickthrough if it's on a search page that comes from the browser's search toolbar. So there's more than bragging rights at stake here...

rekoil

]]> 4:370832:c4819549 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:07:24 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4817872 @nutbastard: So that's how you get to be a "star" commenter...

FritzLaurel

]]> 4:370832:c4817872 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:10:55 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4817491 @Joseph: I LOVE the text area draggables. I'm sick of websites expecting me to enter a paragraph in a tiny little box. There's no good reason I should have to stick with website-chosen text box sizes.

guywcole

]]> 4:370832:c4817491 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:51:33 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4817336 I've accepted the 'iTunes... +Quicktime' installers since if you're going to be using one, you'll most likely need the other.

And the Apple 'software update' is fine pushing me this.... IF I already had a previous version of Safari to actually UPDATE. But this just looks like a desperate attempt to push software on people that do not need/want it.

Thanks, but I passed. I'll stick with my Firefox since it's, well, better.

TKWarrior

]]> 4:370832:c4817336 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:43:58 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4817242 SAFARI SUCKS. I have Firefox on my Macs and PCs! <3 Mozilla. Might be the best software company out there, followed closely by Google.

lafond66

]]> 4:370832:c4817242 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:39:20 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4816994 Never been impressed with Safari. It was the most incredibly crash-worthy piece of junk on my old iMac. Even less impressed that they're trying to push it onto my Windows machines now. And why is it that you can't indicate to Apple Updater to stop offering a particular update (I'm lookin' at YOU iTunes)? I've managed to justify having Quicktime on my work machine (locked down corp config), but no way for iTunes. Not letting me remove it from the update list simply makes it an accident waiting to happen....

Mandatory_Field

]]> 4:370832:c4816994 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:26:49 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4816717 @Zlevee: Yes. And it continues to push iTunes even after you expressly ask it to ignore it.

[www.dtgeeks.com]

I'm glad someone's finally talking about this. Maybe it'll get Apple to finally stop doing it.

UnnDunn

]]> 4:370832:c4816717 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:14:01 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4816348 I saw this this morning and quite frankly, I was a little angry as I don't have a need for any browser but Firefox.

WolfDemon

]]> 4:370832:c4816348 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:59:18 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4816329 Does the star rating put you onto Giz's payroll? I mean the editor of this article doesn't even have a star.

robbywil

]]> 4:370832:c4816329 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:58:49 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4816229 @frigg:

They're just sad b@st@rds with too much time on their hands basically....

MINI Driver

]]> 4:370832:c4816229 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:55:22 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4816209 I love firefox and have absolutely no desire to run safari (or any other browser for that matter). Apple's pushing additional software via updates (their insistance on me installing quicktime, for example) and now safari is ridiculous.

I wish they'd give the option to exclude all future software installs I don't want.

Gofastmazda

]]> 4:370832:c4816209 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:54:41 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4816151 @Pender: lousy, OSX users accuse windows being filled with unwanted apps, and their GOD, apple, is exactly the one doing these dirty things.. make sense? what sense?

clevin

]]> 4:370832:c4816151 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:52:01 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4815785 @frigg: I think its just because they have a certain # of followers, but I'm glad to see you aren't going to think as anything more than average-joe commenters.

graffiksguru

]]> 4:370832:c4815785 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:40:00 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4815664 Makes sense, even if it must be annoying to windows users. Browsers need market penetration for web developers to take them seriously, and this is a great way for Apple to get it.

Pender

]]> 4:370832:c4815664 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:35:05 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4815452 @Akmed:

Are you serious? Why not use Firefox if you love spell checker? It's a better browser anyway, especially on Windows.

FranklinTurtle

]]> 4:370832:c4815452 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:27:19 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4815424 I'm sure a large amount of light computer users with their iPods will just click install/OK to any Apple prompt and they'll get a bunch of lovely installs that way.

I'll happily reject it and iTunes over and over... and over. Seriously that's annoying.

FranklinTurtle

]]> 4:370832:c4815424 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:26:24 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4815397 i love Safari. using it since beta came out for windows. open beta, or whatever it was. sometime last year lol.

best feature: spell check.

Akmed

]]> 4:370832:c4815397 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:25:05 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4815346 @ParJoe: Yo, did you upload a .gif or .png to get a transparent bg image?... or is that image even transparent?

Joseph

]]> 4:370832:c4815346 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:23:10 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4815232 Windows drones? Yea, good job changing the title but it still hit the feed. God forbid there was a post demeaning to Apple users - fanboys would come out in droves.

DomZ

]]> 4:370832:c4815232 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:18:44 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814908 apple sux

pek

]]> 4:370832:c4814908 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:06:05 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814876 Honestly, It is sorta backhanded. Software updates should really just be updates to existing software you have installed. The whole point is to keep your computer secure due to found security exploits. But then I also saw Sony due this to my Vaio, I forget what the new software was but I didn't install.

I have Apple Update uninstalled on the one computer I have iTunes on. iTunes will nag you to update when you start it anyways as will most software such as Java or Adobe Acrobat...

LJKelley

]]> 4:370832:c4814876 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:04:51 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814740 That's not good. I mean, I have Safari so I'm happy to get updates for it, but Apple should not be offering this to people who didn't download it on their own.

fpn1010

]]> 4:370832:c4814740 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:58:22 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814739 @nutbastard: @SchruteBuck @curves, @strider: congratulations on your stars!

We're all very proud and have asked a certain patent-holding professor emeritus laser scientist to bake you a star-shaped cake in your honor. She has yet to respond. No doubt her hands are covered in flour and is unable to get to her emails.

Anyways, to be honest, I find it a little intimidating to see those stars by your names. Frankly, I've always been a little intimidated by you, and this certainly makes it that much harder to walk up to you at a party and start a conversation. I am already rehearsing potential conversations with friends who have graciously stickied your names onto their shirts so that it will be that much less awkward at the next Gizworld. So far, I've rehearsed conversations about the weather, Creed, Abba, continental drift, the future of the human foot, and Kinshasa as a conduit for emerging viruses. If you have any other interests, please let me know!

I would also imagine the pressure on you guys to deliver the goods is now off the charts. As star commenters, everything you say will subsequently be judged by an unprecedented level of scrutiny, much the way Apple has engendered hyper-vigilance as they too have flourished in recent years. While you too will have your fanboys and bashers, please know that I for one will try to continue to think of you all as the same regular joe commenters-of-the-people that you have been for so many years. And if that doesn't work, I'll shout "commentard" three times as loud as I can, and I'm pretty sure the star will just kind of disappear long enough for me to read your comment.

At the same time, I can't help but notice that the Giz has never awarded a star to any of their Amish (or Mennonite) commenters. I may just be a little sensitive on the subject, but I would hate to think this is indicative of any underlying bias. Surely, just an oversight. Anyway, as this is your big day, I don't mean to sound anything but 100% positive and happy for you all! I am!!! You deserve your stars, as Paula says, "you are stars," and I think I speak for the rest of the Giz community when I say I hope they last a good long time before going supernova and collapsing into space-sucking radiation-spewing black holes.

frigg

]]> 4:370832:c4814739 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:58:18 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814720 Well just wait for their next announcement that Safari 3.1 has 1 billion downloads *little finger to mouth* in 2 seconds of release. At least you know where that figure comes from.

alukard

]]> 4:370832:c4814720 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:57:19 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814423 It's sort of funny how I download safari with the updater after reading this article, closed firefox and came back to giz with safari, and the first thing I see is "vista is the worst tech product in history" on a banner ad.
(it also reminded me of how much I love ad-block plus)

mferrari

]]> 4:370832:c4814423 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:45:01 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814389 it sucks, i tried it once and it crashed on first launch, right now i'm using ie8 bata, it's running quite well, has not crashed yet.

wetworker

]]> 4:370832:c4814389 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:43:27 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814356 Over my dead body - I'll never use that browser

kibets

]]> 4:370832:c4814356 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:41:56 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814307 I concur with the common sentiment here. It's fast, but ugly, buggy, (on windows) and severely limited without FF's extensions.

Apple's just tryin to pimp their wares to win users. I'm glad I got to try it and it's useful for web design.

ParJoe

]]> 4:370832:c4814307 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:39:51 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814295 @Zlevee:
Exactly.

secretmanofagent

]]> 4:370832:c4814295 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:39:24 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814253 that's interesting I will have to turn me pc on when I get home and see what happens, as a side note I can has stars yes?!

lilaliendog

]]> 4:370832:c4814253 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:37:23 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814143 Oh, so that's what UAC popped up for. =/ Guess I should have read what I was updating before clicking Install. Safari is just another browser. I have like 5 on here: IE, FF, Opera, Maxthon, Safari... I only really need 3.

ph15h HATES ph15h

]]> 4:370832:c4814143 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:32:57 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4814136 Too bar Safari on Windows blows. It looks horrendous. I'll stick with Firefox 3 with my wonderful extensions.

xxdesmus

]]> 4:370832:c4814136 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:32:38 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813801 Safari for windows is a crippled program. Forget extensions. Almost all of them only work with Safari on OSX. And paying for a lot of them? Looks so much like that other proprietary browser- IE 7. Safari for windows also renders fonts differently. Thus, while on screen internet fonts look the same in IE, FF & Opera, they don't with Safari. And what's with the flat, boring, 90's battleship grey UI? Dare to think differently! Skin your browser for free with FF. Extend your browser's capability with literally hundreds of FREE extensions.

Apple makes some really excellent software. This windows version isn't one of them.

lianna_g

]]> 4:370832:c4813801 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:18:00 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813570 Well at least you can check it off if you don't want it, not like IE where you can't delete it, which is something like leaving your front door wide open is you ask me. Safari is not the fastest as apple states but its a really good alternative, no pop ups no spam to worry about, it also does not eat up your system resources which is real good

snitch29

]]> 4:370832:c4813570 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:09:28 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813470 There are still a LOT of websites I go to that do nto support Safari. Firefox/Camino/Opera are good enough for me.

BostonPimpDaddy

]]> 4:370832:c4813470 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:06:00 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813457 It's an all-star blogging team!
....err....
Nevermind ;)

comp_wiz101

]]> 4:370832:c4813457 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:05:21 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813425 I gave it a shot.

It isn't bad. But it's missing a few features that Firefox has (most notably extensions, but a few others) and so far I can't find any tangible benefit it has over Firefox. So plenty of cons, no pros.... fail.

bobman1235

]]> 4:370832:c4813425 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:03:56 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813422 I got this popup yest...

Y2KGTP

]]> 4:370832:c4813422 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:03:50 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813383 This isn't new. If you just have Quicktime installed, it always tries to push crappy iTunes on you. It's been doing this for years, and it's part of Apple's whole Schizo mentality towards its users, where it can't make up its mind whether or not it wants to help them or harass them.

unit3

]]> 4:370832:c4813383 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:02:17 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813372 I hate it when Apple tries to push iTunes on me when I just want Quicktime. Cant' wait to see what else they are pushing on us.

HJTravels

]]> 4:370832:c4813372 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:01:57 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813367 It's true that they have always tried to push you to dl Quicktime and iTunes together, and then finally made Quicktime necessary for iTunes. Perhaps this trend will continue and Safari will be necessary to surf the iTunes music store. Let's hope this is not the case.

allthosemoments

]]> 4:370832:c4813367 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:01:43 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813358 Windows drones? Funny. Look at your RSS feed.

avsfan123

]]> 4:370832:c4813358 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:01:27 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813338 appearantly what it means for me is i don't know how to work these tubes properly, and im totally restarded.

nutbastard

]]> 4:370832:c4813338 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:00:30 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813329 @Zlevee: I've noticed that too. It also repeatedly installs a startup agent. Maybe Apple has been taking some design cues from Symantec lately.

Tracert

]]> 4:370832:c4813329 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:00:14 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813303 Well, finally Apple's getting as ballsy as MS - maybe this'll get them an even better market share for cumputers.

multimoog

]]> 4:370832:c4813303 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:59:04 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813299 Until they fix that retarded RETARDED issue(feature) where <TEXTAREA> HTML blocks have a little dragging nubbin, I'm not using it as my primary browser.

Joseph

]]> 4:370832:c4813299 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:58:54 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813280 Yeah, but Apple has always tried to push them as a package, even when you just download iTunes from their site, it tries to install Quicktime.

matt buchanan

]]> 4:370832:c4813280 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:58:20 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813263 @SchruteBuck: Hey at least you got one! Now I don't feel special anymore.. :(
Regarding Safari, I like it (not as much as FF), even though it took me a while to figure out how to get fonts to show up when I first installed it. I don't think they should be forcing it upon people though.


graffiksguru

]]> 4:370832:c4813263 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:57:23 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813224 motherfucker.... i hate this comment system!

nutbastard

]]> 4:370832:c4813224 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:55:50 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813206 @SchruteBuck:
no, the stars were implemented incognito and incommunicado, but it means you're a kick-ass commenter (a Star Commenter, officially)

so far it looks like you, curves, strider and I are the only ones.

nutbastard

]]> 4:370832:c4813206 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:55:14 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813201 @SchruteBuck: It means we're watching you.

matt buchanan

]]> 4:370832:c4813201 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:55:07 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813139 @SchruteBuck:
no, the stars were implemented incognito and incommunicado, but it means you're a kick-ass commenter (a Star Commenter, officially)

so far it looks like you, curves, strider and I are the only ones.

nutbastard

]]> 4:370832:c4813139 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:54:19 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813143 @SchruteBuck:
no, the stars were implemented incognito and incommunicado, but it means you're a kick-ass commenter (a Star Commenter, officially)

so far it looks like you, curves, strider and I are the only ones.

nutbastard

]]> 4:370832:c4813143 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:54:19 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813176 *double post avoidance bump*

nutbastard

]]> 4:370832:c4813176 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:54:19 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4813056 @SchruteBuck: I wonder the same thing. Though looking at the source:

(open tag)em class="star cem_46677" style="" title="nutbastard is a Star Commenter"(close tag)*(open tag)/em(close tag)

Thomas Palmer

]]> 4:370832:c4813056 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:50:11 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4812998 Actually it did previously try to add stuff to your PC. If you had Quicktime but not iTunes, it would try to add that.

Zlevee

]]> 4:370832:c4812998 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:47:56 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4812971 well, it's obviously a good thing coming from apple.

AlexLand

]]> 4:370832:c4812971 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:46:49 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4812946 I haven't seen any improvement going from Firefox to Safari on my computer. Thus, I am sticking with Firefox.

Thomas Palmer

]]> 4:370832:c4812946 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:46:09 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4812897 @nutbastard: Hey what's the deal with the star icons next to these comments. Did I miss a meeting?

SchruteBuck

]]> 4:370832:c4812897 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:44:25 EDT <![CDATA[Apple Really Wants Windows Users to Get Safari]]> http://gizmodo.com/370832/apple-really-wants-windows-users-to-get-safari#c4812849 if it doesn't work with windows update, which i believe requires IE, i dont see the point - better to go with FF and have all those juicy addons!

nutbastard

]]> 4:370832:c4812849 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:42:54 EDT