I guess ill take this moment to apologize for my irrationality. While i still don't support druge use, or the legalization of drugs, I guess i was a bit out of line claiming that we should "slaughter" people for drug use. I guess it is sort of like saying we should slaughter people for speeding, something i couldn't say i was innocent of and something wich probably causes just as many injuries/deaths as drug use anually. Hell some of my friends are probably more "out of it" when playing video games than you probably are when smoking up. I guess its like this. You get high on your couch to enjoy yourself, I take turns in my car much faster than i should. I'm sure we both know wich is really more dangerous. And who knows, maybe marajuna(sp.) isn't as dangerous as tobacco. All the websites i found didn't directly say that you would die from using it. Maybe it really is no worse than alcohol. I'm sure more people are killed anually by drunk drivers than "high" drivers.

luciusad2004

Then you're just parroting indoctrination - you're opinion is not your own, it's the opinion you've been taught to have.

It's not about the pros/cons of drug use, the larger issue that supersedes the whole "which drugs should be legal/illegal" or "how harmful to ones health are drugs" arguments, the biggest problem with current drug policy is that it persecutes many peaceful people at a great cost on the American people, it HELPS criminals profit, and it violates our God-Given Right to secure our person as recognized by (NOT granted by) the Constitution. We either have freedom or we don't. You can't be 90% free.

If anyone violates the rights of another, they deserve to be prosecuted. I want violent, untrustworthy people in jail.

Doing drugs violates no ones rights.
Prostitution violates no ones rights.
Automatic weapon ownership violates no ones rights.

Forcing someone to do drugs violates their rights.
Forcing someone to have sex violates their rights.
Shooting someone violates their rights.

The tools/circumstances are not important. I can violate you rights with a legal shotgun or with an illegal handgun. Or a screwdriver.

nutbastard

luciusad2004

"Think for yourself and question authority."
-Timothy Leary
OCT 22, 1920 - MAY 31, 1996

krom

Acually I am a full time student and i I just got a job at wal-mart so im pretty busy all the time. Selfish, Ill admit to that. Narcissitic, not really. Just because i can make alot of noise on Giz doesn't mean i actually think much of my self. I don't look out for anybody, It's none of my business wether someone fails or succeeds in life. It's really not my job to care. All i care is that they don't get in my way. Though to be honest, even if they did I wouldn't do much about it. And trust me, id avoid law enforcement like i would avoid a job in the military. It's a great thing if you can handle it but i don't have the self confidence or assertivness for that. I'm not to concerned about how great society is as long as i mange to get by.

I'm sure my Global Political Knowlege is lacking since i don't really care enough to follow politics. Its really not worth my time.

I thought up a wonderful compromise today though while in gym class.

We can legalize all the drugs you want but, if you fuck yourself up government medical coverage shouldn't pay for it, at all. My tax dollars shouldn't pay for someone elses mistakes. No organ transplants unless specifically requested by the donor (assuming the transplant is related to an organ you messed up w/ drug use). Also, anyone else you harm (No matter what you say about your experience, IT DOES HAPPEN) should be compensated 100% out of your pocket. Then we can see what happens and if drug crimes go down like all of you say it will, MAYABE you'll have me convinced. Oh, and anything smoked shouldn't be smoked in public. In consideration, of those who want to experience reality. But im sure since you are all sooo considerate/compasionate you won't mind that.

Anyway, Since none of this is ever likely to happen, we could argue about this untill we are all blue in the face and it doesn't really matter. I think ill just go back in to passive mode were i don't really care what other people do/say.

luciusad2004

i just realized i'm wasting my time.

D.LYTE

"Anyone who can sell drugs to a 14 or 15 year old kid deserves a good swift execution."

I agree up to the execution part - execution should be reserved for murderers. Jail for people who sell to minors, I don't have a problem with that, with the one caveat being that 14 year olds aren't inherently stupid - at 14, you're as intelligent as you're ever going to be, and you've had enough experience with the world to start making some of your own decisions.

So i would drop the legal age of adulthood to 14 or 15 while keeping that adulthood probationary, a state analogous to how 18-20 year olds CURRENTLY are adults but cannot purchase alcohol. IMO childhood lasts WAY too long in America - expect them to act like adults at 14 and facilitate an environment that rewards personal responsibility and they *will* get there.

nutbastard

Nazi references. Win. Thats great. I have more respect for human rights that alot of people i know. I just don't value drug pushing douche bags. So maybe i went a bit far w/ execution of users. Yeah, its a bit tough to execute someone who can't control their own actions.

Executing Dealers however... China has it right. Anyone who can sell drugs to a 14 or 15 year old kid deserves a good swift execution. Not that it helps, I'm sure china has loads of drug use. But if i said i would feel bad about watching a bunch of filthy dealers die i would be lieing.

luciusad2004

YOU CANNOT STOP DRUG USE

end of story.

you can't do it. like i mentioned earlier, china has a policy of executing drug dealers and many users. THIS DOES NOT STOP ANYONE FROM DOING DRUGS AND IS COMPLETELY INHUMANE.

And for the record, millions of people do all kinds of 'crazy' drugs every day around the world and the crime generated from that drug use is committed by the vast minority of drug users. 99% of drug users are peaceful people. leave them alone.

nutbastard

Bullshit. Heroine is less dangerous than alcohol. Heroine is a flu-like detox for 3 days. Heroine does have a physiological dependence in that you begin to feel sick without it, but it's the flipping flu.

absolutely NONE of that is actually true. i once watched an episode of Xena : Warrior Princess... and she was clearly NOT less dangerous than alcohol. not at all. alcohol doesn't (for instance) have a sword or know how to do flips and kicks. when i was done watching it... i had NO flu-like symptoms at all. no psychological dependance either... i thought it was a pretty stupid show and just never watched it again.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

x23

D.LYTE

how do you spell hypocrite?

D.LYTE

luciusad2004

I love the legalize drug mentality. While I agree that it might lower drug related crime, its probably not the wonderful solution that all these fucking hippies think it is. Drugs are illegal because they hurt you, they hurt your family (emotionally), and they hurt the people who you harm physically when you fucking freak out because your sorry drugged up ass can't control your own actions, and they hurt the people who you accidently harm because of your impairment.

Don't feed me any of this "people should learn to control/take responsiblity for their own actions bullshit either. Teenagers and younge adults and pretty much controled by their peers, the media, their perception of society, etc. Younge people aren't going to take control of their actions and choose to do just a "safe" amount of drugs. That argument is bullshit.

And what the fuck is a "safe" amount of drugs, I love this pot head society that doesn't give a fuck what science tells us and thinks that all the medical research that we have done is just a sham to hold them down. Yeah, our doctors have nothing better to do than perform fake reasearch studies to help the goverment keep you in shackles.

Sure we could legalize it, you would pay out the ass in taxation. I garantee the day it's legalized alot of people die due to the actions of some dipshit driving around dopped up. And street crime still wouldn't stop. You would still have a bunch of broke mother fuckers robbing people and killing people to get money for their addictions. You would still have people selling to kids. Age limits don't keep ciggarettes out of school do you honestly think age limits are going to keep legalized drugs out of schools?

On second thought, maybe we should legalize it and hand it out for free for a week or two. Let all the dipshits kill themselves off. Then whoever survives we can just slaughter.

Oh, don't bring up the "But what about tobacco and alchol" shit either As far as im concerned that shit should be illegal as well. (at least in public) I swear to fucking God, I'm probably gonna die from lung cancer due to all the second hand smoke i have to deal w/ on campus. We need police to just come around and tazer bitches who think they can smoke out in front of the entrance to buildings. If you want to smoke, go sit in your house and smoke your life away, leave some fresh air for the rest of us.

luciusad2004

Geraldo

"In the end, some drugs should be illegal because of the eventual demise of societies based upon it or its generic replacement."

ah but by keeping them illegal you've already destroyed society.

@Hello_Newman:
"If we refused to do business with countries who are openly flooding us with drugs then they would do something about it."

yeah we'd make more of em here. reducing the supply of drugs increases the price, which means more profits for criminals, more burden on addicts, and easier importing as they can simply bring in smaller quantities.

"If prices for a gram of coke doubled, less people would do it, just that simple. "

but it isn't - people will do it no matter the cost. true addicts (crackheads) will commit more theft to get the money.

in the last 20 years the price has gone from $100 / gram down to $30. yet it's not 3 times more popular. if anything it's less popular.

"How is getting high on weed any different than hard liquor and smoking a pack of cigs at the same time? "

alcohol works because it's toxic - THC works on a brain chemistry level, activating receptor sites and fitting into others. and with vaporization technology, theres no reason to inhale the nasty combustibles along with the drug.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS COUNTRY IS WE LET NAIVE IMBICILES LIKE YOU VOTE WHEN YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING - YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW POT DIFFERS FROM ALCOHOL?? AND YET YOU THINK YOU'RE ENTITLED TO AN OPINION?

*bangs head against wall*

nutbastard

"1 short ton = 907 184.74 grams"

nutbastard

@nutbastard: Not to nitpick your math, but 12 tons = 12.000.000 grams :D

@D.LYTE: Just as governments dont rule in what is not educational for you (As an adult) and not ban, for instance, stupid reality shows. They should not rule in what is not healthy for you. You should be able to buy FDA approved Cocaine, MDMA, Heroin, LSD, etc. With recommended dosage, and over dosage cautions etc. There are a lot of deaths and o.ds every year for bad cuts/batches.

I also agree that "they" ban these chemicals because of the detrimental effect on a "productive" society, because a LOT more people die every year from lung/throat cancer than drugs and cigarettes are not banned, you can't smoke them almost anywhere, but the government still collects taxes on their sales instead of just baning them. Same goes for alcohol. Hell, even cholesterol kills more ppl than drugs and they don't ban McDs do they ?

Tensor

Out2gtcha

"We should be finding ways to fulfill that need safely instead of helping to perpetuate the monopoly of dangerous drugs"

government provided sex?

mtopper

you forgot to mention the war in Iraq (which was won yesterday, I think)

mtopper

Yeah. I know. That's sort of my point. You can drink yourself to death. You can OD on heroin and many other substances, but you can smoke as much weed as you want with very little return. I know guys who smoke every ten minutes. I look at them like they're crazy because, after all, how high can you get once you're high? Higher? Pretty soon it's about the ritual...the community...than it is about getting high. That's the addiction. The acquaintance of it all. That and the psychological effect of "gotta have it or I'm gonna be edgy for a while."

D.LYTE

smeee

If we refused to do business with countries who are openly flooding us with drugs then they would do something about it. The reason for this is to cut supply and raise prices so less people could afford it. If prices for a gram of coke doubled, less people would do it, just that simple.
To be honest though, some things like a bag of pot compared to a bottle of vodka are really debatable. How is getting high on weed any different than hard liquor and smoking a pack of cigs at the same time?
I think political will in this country doesn't let us do what makes sense, politicians are too afraid of being seen "soft" and losing their jobs over doing what make sense.

Hello_Newman

CliftonSantiago

As LSD may not be addictive, it also shouldn't be taken lightly. From experience (perhaps I'm chemically averse to the shit), I can attest to being curious and then realizing that it's frickin' nasty and could cause serious trouble.

Weed? Legalize it and get it over with already. Perhaps our government should legalize it and then give themselves a bunch of bongs for the holidays. Unless every single one of them turned into a paranoid freak, perhaps it would provide a little perspective and we'd be a little bit more mellow in this country. I don't see a lot of people overdosing on weed and becoming violent or agressive. In fact they become lethargic and complacent. But I've seen dudes drunk as hell fighting over absolutely nothing. The high guys were in the back looking at each other like, "whoa...dude..."

In the end, some drugs should be illegal because of the eventual demise of societies based upon it or its generic replacement. But I'm with you that it's a person's choice and not the local sheriff's who is driving way too fast in a gas-guzzling dodge charger that taxpayers pay for. If a hit of MDMA makes your girlfriend bi-curious, then go for it in the comfort of your own hotel room.

Keep it all away from our kids until they have the ability to realize the consequences of their actions. Once a person is of a good age (that also varies), then they have the right to make their own mistakes and learn from them. I don't need some punk-ass trying to sell my youthfully innocent relatives a bunch of shit that's going to make them chemically dependent enough to start going down the wrong path.

/book

D.LYTE

Z

So the original article said, regardless of the potential illegal prize money, would you trust your life to a home-brew submarine?

Answer , NO. But I am making my own model submarine DSRV with air tanks etc.

Z

MrBlahBlah

pharago

markpb

marijuana might be easy to come by in school, although not as easy as alcohol. hard core stuff on the other hand is very difficult.

i take it you've never been to a high school party then?

jbhitter24

Curves

jetexas

jetexas

nutbastard

I just haven't gotten the nerve up yet to put my tongue near Frucci's nutsack.

jetexas

man....not so easy.

MrBlahBlah

when DID I get the star? about a week ago.

when do YOU get a star? When you post thousands of comments per year and have a bunch of people who enjoy them, who subscribe to your comments as followers, and when the editors notice you and enjoy having you here.

nutbastard

when do you get the star?

MrBlahBlah

eliminate the reasonably safe drugs and people start huffing glue and gasoline, and prescription benzodiazapenes aren't going anywhere, either. you'd have to eliminate every toxic substance on earth.

look, some people live a different style of life than you do - what kind of nazi are you that everyone must follow the same path, and anyone who thinks different should be shut away or murdered?

nutbastard

and how do you propose we "eliminate it"? DMT comes from frogs and acacia trees, and vines in the amazon. LSA comes from hawiian baby woodrose seeds. pot grows wild everywhere, as does coca in columbia. portable labs can make meth easily.

you will never get rid of it. they have a death penalty in china for drugs - and yet tons of people still do them.

nutbastard

kind of difficult when you're under 18, dude.

(whoops forgot to quote...)

nutbastard

kind of difficult when you're under 18, dude.

nutbastard

"Heroine is a flu-like detox for 3 days."
Hilarious. I've got friends who went through it, and you're underestimating it by quite a bit.

"I also lack the capacity why retards go looking for drugs beyond alcohol."
Capacity does seem to be something you lack. Alcohol is a toxic chemical - some of us prefer it, others prefer not to get high by poisoning our bodies and killing their braincells.

"It's not ingrained in human nature"
So violence is not ingrained in human nature? After all, most people are nonviolent. More people use drugs than are regularly violent, so if you're going to draw the line between what is and isn't human nature by looking at how popular an action is, well, there you go.

You really don't know what you're talking about at all.

"The consequences have always outweighed the reward for me"

I'd agree in the case of coke, meth, mdma and a few others, the risk isn't worth the high. LSD is physically harmless - 100 micrograms of ANY substance no matter how toxic is not enough to affect enough cells to do significant damage - although your closed mind would probably go hari kari on itself if you opened that door.

nutbastard

jbhitter24

The root of all dependence issues is psychological. There are plenty of people who do not use any mind-altering substances, and get along just fine. It's not ingrained in human nature; it's an existential motherflipping choice. Kids don't come out of the vagina looking for a fix.

Frankly, eliminate it all and save the rest of us the social ills that arise from it. I do love a good beer and I've abused alcohol plenty. I've got some damned good stories from it, as well. However, I would forfeit all of that if it meant that drug-related ills didn't plague this country any longer. I also lack the capacity why retards go looking for drugs beyond alcohol. The consequences have always outweighed the reward for me.

Elvisisdead

nutbastard

x23

nutbastard

First of all, "safer for everyone" is EXACTLY what occurs - no more drugs cut with filthy toxic chemicals, no more profits for organized crime rings, and no more selling to kids - now wait, hang on, OF COURSE kids will get their hands on this shit, just like they do alcohol now. But for one thing they already have access to it now, and furthermore, as a minor, it's much easier to score coke, pot, meth etc. than it is to score alcohol. They sell that shit at school.

People already have opinions about drugs - you really think that if they were legalized, everyone would start doing them? Do you think their being illegal STOPS anyone from doing them? You're grossly mistaken if you do.

"Have you ever sat on the bus next to someone cracked out on meth?"

Is it any worse than a piss drunk bastard on the bus? Or someone who is disturbingly mentally ill? Does meth being illegal stop those guys from sitting next to you on the bus? no? then what's the point? If meth is so bad, is it not it's own punishment?

Personally i wouldn't touch that stuff, if i was going to do something, there are simply better options - but these options are not as readily available as addictive substances. Coke and meth are everywhere. Try and find a safe, non addictive drug like LSD and it's near impossible.

Beyond ALL of that, what makes you think that people would stick with these shitty drugs? If it were legal, pharmaceutical companies could create wonderful, non harmful non addictive drugs that would quickly replace all the ones that take a toll on your body. But for now no one is doing any research like that, because they legally can't and it's nigh impossible to start manufacturing new psychoactive substances without attracting attention. So we're stuck with the same old shitty, dangerous drugs.

People are going to get high no MATTER WHAT. It's inhumane to persecute them for doing something completely ingrained in human nature. We should be finding ways to fulfill that need safely instead of helping to perpetuate the monopoly of dangerous drugs, which is exactly what you're doing when you stifle research and punish those who've fell victim to this shitty set of circumstances that you help to remain static.

nutbastard

When I say crank, I was more referring to the specific type of rock/meth he died from at the time; the "ultra rock" the kind the was pretty much "foil hits only" AKA the foil & baking soda mix as apposed to the normal slightly smaller rock that some of the people were bangin at the time.

Out2gtcha

ollifl

And Id also be interested to see how many people that think legalizing hardcore drugs (Im all for legalizing pot) is a good move actually have kids, or a responsibility for a life other than their own.

pevans34

seriously though. legalize that shit. to much taxpayer dollars are spent on convicting and jailing people affiliated with these drugs. marijuana is less harmful than alcohol and less addictive than cigarettes.

MrBlahBlah

nutbastard

nutbastard

nutbastard

And the drugs being illegal didn't stop your friend from acquiring and using them, right? So what good does it do?

You may want the government to protect you and others from them, but they simply cannot do that. The world is full of danger and some people are going to fuck up and die, with motorcycles, drugs, outright violence, lightening strikes etc.

I'm all for HELPING people, but the current system ruins far more lives than it saves.

nutbastard

EmerilLIVE

Really fine women make it so hard to say no.

jetexas

I was with him when he went on that binge, right before unknown to us, he went and did that.
I would have gladly spent time in jail, as long as we both went. If we would have both gone to jail that night, he might still be alive today. Or at least it would have bought a little time while he was in jail for him to get clean or at least to stop hearing voices; which he was, right before his death.

Out2gtcha

grow up, it's a complete myth that anyone gets free drugs pushed on them by random people. when i was young we always had to pay for it. always. no free samples, these people are business men, and they dont need one measly, broke teenage customer who's going to snitch at the sight of a cop.

get off the propaganda kool aid, kids SEEK drugs, not the other way around.

nutbastard

"As far as drugs go in my youth I pretty much have done it all (with the exception of PCP, Heroin and some heavy prescription stuff), but personally I think many gains could be had by the sale of certain drugs legally."

have you ever done anything you don't think should ever be legal? if so, then by your own accord you should have gone to jail. Would your life have been improved by that? Why would you push laws on others that seem unjust when applied to you?

"I'm also not sure if you saying you think all drugs should be legal or just some"

All of em. its not a health issue it's a freedom issue. my body is mine, that's a god-given right, end of story.

@Lester56:
454 grams in a pound, not 448 as 16 x 28 gives, actually it's "1 pound = 453.59237 grams"

nutbastard

f1sh3r

An 8-ball is an 1/8th of an ounce right?

(24k x 16) x 8 = 3,072,000

Or maybe your closer to Coke traffic than I am...in which case you may have the floor.

Lester56

aboriginal

Personally I'm not going to sit here and say I'm a saint. I've fractured a law or 2 in my time. As far as drugs go in my youth I pretty much have done it all (with the exception of PCP, Heroin and some heavy prescription stuff), but personally I think many gains could be had by the sale of certain drugs legally.

I'm also not sure if you saying you think all drugs should be legal or just some, but me personally I think putting people in jail for weed and the like is pretty ridiculous. Hell, even putting an addict in jail for succumbing to his addiction is ridiculous. There could be so many gains from taxation & what-not that I think a lot of prison space, money and time spend going after the drug "taker" not the drug "seller" could be saved.
I also think that making pot legal would curtail a lot of the sales in schools, and put a lot of the small time dealers out of business, leaving law enforcement time/money/recourses to going after the big boys instead; not to mention the obvious money gained by the taxation of it.

Out2gtcha

nutbastard

nutbastard

Mandatory_Field

The subs may be a bit leaky, but who cares? Just buy some mid-range scuba gear and motor on.

shawn_dude

There are international treaties on such things. They include more boring items like how many years a transatlantic passenger liner can carry passengers before being uncertified for that role.

Since unflagged subs would be disagreeable to most governments with ocean access, this may not be much of a hard sell.

shawn_dude

Doesn't exactly "blend" for lack of a better term; hence why subs are never that color blue. That's a lot of money into a project only to paint it so that it seems to stand out, and not disappear.

Out2gtcha

Na, I think I'd rather stick with "shoot the drug dealer" than any hippy "hug them and give them free drugs" idea. Ever been to Amsterdam? Nooo drug problem there, where many drugs are legal, and needles are provided to keep the druggies healthy (oxymoron anyone?) and the cost to pay for all these "free" drugs, needles, or rehab programs? Ya, that's you and me, or the legal law abiding hard working citizen of whatever country you happen to be in.

Piva

Z

GiltProto

Z

jetexas

idiot.

doofusgumby

Well sure ... but as someone else pointed out : One load of 12 tons of cocain sells for +- 1 Billion USD. (if the price he assumed is correct). So why not just beach the thing. I mean come on ... a fiberglass boat cant be that expansive. Thats like delivery costs ... they probably just add em to the sales price.

Or unload it in deeper waters with small boats (i guess that its what is done right now most of the time).

There are so many ways in which i can imagine that to work out. (and those guys too ... otherwise they probably would have given up and found a better solution)

Redwraithvienna

Z

Z

nutbastard

Z

shenanigans

nospamsam

[www.latinamericanpost.com]

Z

Are you sure that its not hard ? i wouldnt be so sure about that.

Lets just do a bit of math / geography. : the most direct way from colombia to the US would be about 1500 SeaMiles. (its easier cause costguard says they are 12knots fast).

M;ost of this would be inside the 200SM zone in which the navys of friendly nations allows the US coast guard to operate. Which basically means that you would need a sub that could do lets say +- 750SM below water. (probably more)

Which means you have to built something that can stay below water for at least 17 hours (leaving and entering the 200sm zone around Colombia and the US)

More would probably better since you also have to navigate between Mexiko and Cuba,

So you probably would need a Sub that can stay underwater and move with 12 knots (more would be better) for 17 hours or more. And transport 12 tons of whatever (more is better too).

And that doesnt sound so easy to built for me.

Sure you probably can get blueprints and so on from old subs, and you have the basic knowlege of 100 years of submarine building, but still ... its difficult. Not saying we wont see those ships soon. Apperently it makes sense to built something like this and they are going this way quite fast. I am just saying it needs a lot of tech, which is not so easy to come buy in a 3rd world nation even with tons of money.

Redwraithvienna

jbhitter24

Somehow I don't think this is a new idea.

"[Jabba] has no use for smugglers who drop their shipments at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser."

crap-action-jackson

Darrone

faabshaam

nospamsam

You beat me to it. That statement hardly seems right.

Way

While i can agree with you on some points ... the interesting question remains : What would happen if the State would hand out drugs. And i dont meant to sixth graders. But lets say : Anyone who is a drug addict gets his shots for free. (or at a very limited cost) and has to go through rehab.

The good thing would be that the drug related criminality would go back enormously. Since most drug related crimes are commited to finance the habit. So if nobody has this problem anymore, fewer will commit crimes to finance their habit. At the same time more will be able too keep a normal life (a job, social contacts, a family) and wont drift into the "i need a shot so badly i ll sell ya my first born for it" sub culture.

i know ... it would be hard too sell it after 20 - 30 years or so of "The War against drugs". But fact is : The war didnt bring us anywhere. Not in the US, not in Europe, nor anywhere else. Drugs are still flowing into all those countries cause there is a demand for them, they are cheap to produce and expansive to sell.

Redwraithvienna

sqeakytoy of the apocalypse

Not sure if the 'Crazy Paco' is to the port or starboard? "One ping, one ping only Fasulli."

karnak

(12*2000*454/3.5)

/math nazi

nutbastard

TheCyberBob

nospamsam

MastaFalse

sqeakytoy of the apocalypse

America - World Police much? INTERNATIONAL waters. If we actually have the authority to pass such laws then color me frightened.

nutbastard

End rant/ flamesuit on

sqeakytoy of the apocalypse

Homemade subs : yes. Homemade subs with a significant payload : No. We are talking 12 tons of cocaine, not 200 kg. of humans.

What does surprise me is that they havent used one of those "Ready to buy" small private subs and used it as a pulling tug for a fully submerged transport container. (which could be for one use only). (damn should stop giving the bad guys ideas)

Redwraithvienna

I am not from the area ... but any coast i have been too is not a straight line. There are bays, inlets, small harbors, mangrove, swampy areas, secluded beaches and so on. Probably not as bad (or pretty) as the norweigan coast but still more then enough too find a secluded spot where you can drive a truck that can carry 12 tons of cocaine and with a good enough beach too make the transfer without being seen.

So all you gotta do is find one of those spots. give the guys on the boat the coordinates and GPS does the rest. Doesnt sound so difficult to me.

Redwraithvienna

thechansen

Kiteaton

sandmanfvr

Mind you homemade subs have been around for decades really. I'm surprised that this hasn't been going on longer.

TheCyberBob

allthosemoments

Joewithay

Darrone

Hey c'mon we litter less.

strider_mt2k

TerryinSt.Paul

Lester56