<![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers - Gizmodo Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gizmodo.com.png <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers - Gizmodo Comments]]> http://gizmodo.com Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:39:02 EDT Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:39:02 EDT http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4895400 Does anybody know if this is possible on a blackberry?

dmahoney

]]> 4:372376:c4895400 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:39:02 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4895075 Nice but stupid that they're wanting to make money out of it lol.

DJTripleRRR

]]> 4:372376:c4895075 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:15:04 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4894117 WMWifirouter was released to trial users today. I purchased it (Euro 9.99 after discounts) without hesitation. The ability to use my HTC Tilt as an ad-hoc Wifi Router to share out my 3G connection is immensely useful. I have Gizmodo to thank for this great find [feeds.gawker.com]
Just a caveat that not all wireless devices will work with an ad-hoc Wifi connection. Try before you buy.

bungee

]]> 4:372376:c4894117 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:19:45 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4889101 @darthus: No, even ICSControl uses AdHoc. Does the PSP support USB? ICSControl can do USB and Bluetooth as well...

archaeology_dude

]]> 4:372376:c4889101 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:22:12 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4889083 @stingray: I believe it has to do with the .dll that are used to dial the data line. Sprint has a ipnat.dll and another .dll that runs ICS. ICS dials and registers as tethered, unless registry entries are changed...

archaeology_dude

]]> 4:372376:c4889083 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:21:25 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4887174 @Worf:

Curious as how tethered data from a laptop connected to a phone is discernable from the data coming directly on the phone.

How does the carrier tell the difference. Does the mobile device "rat" you out? based on the source and destination of the data packets.

stingray

]]> 4:372376:c4887174 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:39:22 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4886297 This might not be very practical until the supposed threshold for 3G is reached (like, 14Mbps I think).

hammertime1994

]]> 4:372376:c4886297 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:06:14 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4880376 Looks like my last post got eaten, oh well it was poorly worded anyway. Just for those technically inclined but without the cash to test it before you try it. I've had very good results on AT&T's 3g network here espeically for VNC / Crossloop / RDP sessions. (tethered via my 8525 - after a good month of Outlook (HTTP to exchange) and many remote sessions I only used 200mb of data (YMMV)

btw here is a ping long for latency
I'd say this is faily typical although I will see it down @ 150ms alot but with enough spikes to say that sometimes I average 400 ms
Pinging google.com [72.14.207.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=206ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=282ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=217ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=216ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=229ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=213ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=290ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=207ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=204ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=221ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=219ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=224ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=212ms TTL=235

Ping statistics for 72.14.207.99:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 204ms, Maximum = 290ms, Average = 226ms




















ChiefoftheChiss

]]> 4:372376:c4880376 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:47:50 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4880186 For the technically inclined - Just in case you were wondering I'm using 3g and have had a very good experiance with it so far. Here is a ping sample taken just now while using my tethered AT&T 8525.

Also I have had very pleasureable results using it for crossloop / VNC / RRDP connections.

Pinging google.com [72.14.207.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=206ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=282ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=235
...
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=204ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=221ms TTL=235
Reply from 72.14.207.99: bytes=32 time=219ms TTL=235

Ping statistics for 72.14.207.99:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 204ms, Maximum = 290ms, Average = 226ms










ChiefoftheChiss

]]> 4:372376:c4880186 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:41:31 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4880090 One issue I've run into is that WMWifiRouter runs your phone as an Ad-hoc network. I want to run my PSP through it (since I can just use my phone as a bluetooth modem for my laptop). Is there a way to get WMWifiRouter to run it in infrastructure mode, or does ICSControl allow that to happen?

darthus

]]> 4:372376:c4880090 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:37:38 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4878190 @TJ: lmao! thx dude. Most helpful cough ever i understood everything without having to ask you to cough again LMFAO! =P
I tried the WMWiFiRouter before and i liked it but then deleted it because there is no point in sharing an EDGE data connection.

SneakerFiend

]]> 4:372376:c4878190 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:37:37 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4878176 I'll also chime in about the greatness that is WMWiFiRouter....

In January when I was volunteering for a political campaign, we had to speed across Iowa to meet up at the end of the campaign on election day. One of the guys I was with whipped out his laptop, I fired up my Mogul with WMWiFiRouter, and we were able to track precincts in real time and also watch streaming video coverage of the election. While driving from Cedar Rapids to Des Moines. At 80 mph.

Oh, and WMWiFiRouter supports multiple connections. While we were working out of a crappy YMCA camp in Iowa, I would set up my Mogul with WMWiFiRouter and let everyone share my connection. Like, ten laptops. Even though I was roaming on 1X, we could all do what we needed to do (or fuss around on facebook).

Bottom line: this program above has been done before and done better. I love competition, but this is clearly an inferior product to WMWiFiRouter.

PhilR8

]]> 4:372376:c4878176 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:36:56 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4877992 It's sold to carriers who'll license it, so that you'll go crazy and pay a ton of money for your bandwidth.

Several 3G systems already differentiate between handset 3G traffic and tethered 3G traffic - the deal being, "unlimited data" only refers to handset traffic. Tethered traffic gets charged still (see all those cases where people buy super data plans and still get dinged $10,000+ because they used their laptop with it).

With this, the carriers can charge for tethered traffic, while users pay for the convenience...

Worf

]]> 4:372376:c4877992 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:30:50 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4877548 Ya this is cool.

I dont leave the house without an IP. Eventually you will be born with an IP.

Being connected is great!!!

stingray

]]> 4:372376:c4877548 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:14:28 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4877386 iPhone can do this too, albeit on the much slower EDGE network

[cre.ations.net]

bpatten

]]> 4:372376:c4877386 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:08:17 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4877095 @archaeology_dude: Sorry, it's ICSControl...
[forum.xda-developers.com]

archaeology_dude

]]> 4:372376:c4877095 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:57:25 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876929 WMWiFiRouter is awesome. I use it on my HTC Mogul and it works just fine. Also check out xda-devs for ISControl. It does the same thing, but without going the ICS (which, unless registry entries are *cough* deleted *cough*), will let Sprint know you're tethering. ISControl just dials up like a regular data connection and bypasses a fair amount of authentication and .dll using. It's a little bit more complicated, but if you can use figure out how to use your phone as a WiFi Hotspot, then chances are you can do this.

archaeology_dude

]]> 4:372376:c4876929 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:51:39 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876521 i was recently on a long ass road trip and got so bored that i started streaming some movies w/ wmwifirouter to my laptop while going 80 on the i90. i had it on for over an hour and it worked flawlessly

Weihovah

]]> 4:372376:c4876521 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:34:40 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876503 For the Symbian Crowd: There is an app called JoikuSpot light (there is only a light version, don't ask me why).
It is in beta, but works great. No Restriction. No Fee to pay.
The only problem is that you can't secure your network yet, so you are forced to share your precious bandwith.



kall

]]> 4:372376:c4876503 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:34:03 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876342 Mesh networks have been promised for years now. The concept is very exciting, but the implementation has proven just the opposite. Maybe by 2025.

Something neat.

cdawson2000

]]> 4:372376:c4876342 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:28:34 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876209 I didn't see no free demo...did anyone?

mlvds

]]> 4:372376:c4876209 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:23:32 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876137 WMWFiRouter.. its jawesome.

tastybytes

]]> 4:372376:c4876137 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:20:57 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876090 Lemme join in with the coughing... WMWiFiRouter has been doing this for ages. I'm betting the commercial program here is partly based on the hard work of the people at XDA Developers.

scoobydoo

]]> 4:372376:c4876090 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:18:51 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876078 @Monty:

#2 I totally agree with. I deal with the internet, phones, E-mail, a slew of IT issues, and connectivity ALL DAY LONG. I really have no desire to be "ultra connected" at all times of the day and night.
Admittedly, we all need connectivity to the net but if your in a place that would/could use this, then you're outside or some other place where maybe ...... just maybe couldn't you deal without the internet until you get home or back to the office and just enjoy you're phoneless/internetless/e-mail-less surroundings for a change???

And yes Internetless is a word. I just made it up.


Out2gtcha

]]> 4:372376:c4876078 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:18:13 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4876024 @Synthaxx: You didn't hear? It's Cough Like a Pirate Day!!

TJ

]]> 4:372376:c4876024 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:15:59 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4875783 There is an app called wifirouter that does this very well, only until recently it was free. But it's a cheap app. Totally worth it. Don't cave into this lame corporate ploy to eat more of your monies.

(sorry, can't find linkage) xda-developers.com has info.

wooties

]]> 4:372376:c4875783 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:06:45 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4875774 Two worthless comments:

1. The latency on just about any cell network, including 3G and EVDO is simply too slow for just about anything I would use it for. It might be nice for bringing up a web page, but it is not particularly useful for a Citrix or Terminal Services session, which is what I would need it for. (It can work through third party products that cache the session, I know, but it is still barely usable.)

2. Do we really need to be connected to the Net no matter where we go or what we do? Can't we take a break from the internet for a few minutes out of the day? (Yes, the irony is me typing this into a web site when I am obviously connected right now. Maybe I answered my own question.)

Monty

]]> 4:372376:c4875774 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:06:33 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4875746 That's a nastily helpfull cough you got there.

Synthaxx

]]> 4:372376:c4875746 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:05:37 EDT <![CDATA[WalkingHotSpot Turns Smartphones Into Wi-Fi Routers]]> http://gizmodo.com/372376/walkinghotspot-turns-smartphones-into-wi+fi-routers#c4875709 *Cough Cough* Check out WMWifiRouter on XDA or find the torrent for it. *Cough*

TJ

]]> 4:372376:c4875709 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:04:02 EDT