kllngtme

Guy-Fawkes

ninjatales

You're 100% right. The whole "save the planet" thing is stupid, because the planet is fine. The planet will be here for millions more years.

WE, however, could very likely wipe out our own species and most others on the planet with this sort of behavior.

I don't think you grasp the point of environmentalism. It's not to "save the planet" because we KNOW the planet can't be destroyed by litter or plastics or even climate change. It's to save LIFE on the planet-- particularly our own lives-- because the very real danger of making the planet uninhabitable exists on the horizon.

If you can't get behind that, then how about the selfish reason: THIS MAKES FUEL PRICES HIGHER.

If they used less fuel (because they're fitting more in a single truck by using properly-sized boxes) then fuel would be consumed less, and the demand would drop (significantly, actually) and the price of oil would drop accordingly.

Oh, yeah... And you might like to go for a walk outside some day and breathe in fresh, clean air. That might be nice, dontchathink?

ZeroCorpse

luciusad2004

phazah

Collins1

hossfly

mricyfire

j4sk868

e0ytk

nixil

kylo4

"I ordered something and guess what? It showed up at my door. Inconsiderate BASTARDS!"

Um, yeah...why do we care so much about the box? I get the waste, but at least you're receiving it.

baristabrawl

kratos76

His post was so obnoxious it almost seems sarcastic. I am sure he will probably abuse something else that will lead to his demise with that attitude.

LindsayJoy's MBP is into S+M

.tox

elgringoguapo

tylerrampton

Boxes can be recycled. Anyone who's sold anything on eBay knows this.

neekap

mountaindew

shawnmos

alpacalypse

wesrubix

woohoo! well done!

wesrubix

richinSF

Rand

Apparantly you don't understand how roughly packages get handled...

If you did, you'd be glad that styrofoam was there.
Product box inside slightly larger shipping box = crushed or broken product

farker

ThatPirateGuy

itsgene

True only received one thing that was broken, but I would have preferred if they would just call and I could go pick stuff up instead of all the wrapping waste.

ComicDork

Crashproof

The reason I say is because when I used to pick orders for Staples we found that the small boxes would often get lost by us or during transport, so if it was busy and there was a large box readily available we'd use it since the item would have better chance of making it to its destination.

Fierock

Yudonomi

cotj73

tripo_d

MyCokesBiggerThanYours

415vince

Woman says "Alright, I get the message, no need to say it twice!"

Guy says "I didn't! didn't! didn't..."

scarbrtj

DakotaEpic

pcs800

They pick average size boxes a box than can fit a flash drive and that same box can be used for a flatscreen 17in.

Small vendors try to cit costs to make a profit, so they are more efficient simply because 1.) they have the time and 2.) they need to in order to make profit

mricyfire

tundraboy

wage

Daimyo Nintendo

Senshi34

keysereble

potohead1

gizmodohomepage

Some things to know:
- If you get multiple boxes, they are probably from different warehouses
- Really large items (monitors, printers, etc) usually come in the original shipping box, not one provided by Newegg
- Multiple small items get combined into a larger box

Note that Newegg HAS switched to using padded envelopes for really small (e.g. flash drive) items, but only if you select the USPS option.

You CANNOT ship padded envelopes via UPS or FedEx ground - they only allow those sizes for express shipments. Trust me, I've tried.

Also, I re-use ALL of my Newegg boxes. I order a LOT of stuff from them (over $10,000 so far), so I have a wide variety of boxes, complete with packing peanuts. I never need to buy boxes.

bsoft

Istrutnice

Istrutnice

-It's easier and cheaper for them to reduce the number of different boxes they are using for shipping. 8 different box sizes or 3? Hrmmm. Less inventory and less thinking are good things.

-If under a certain size, shipping is calculated by weight - not volume. The USPS, for instance, doesn't care if it is in a box (under 12x12x12) or a padded envelope. Shipping costs were the same for overnight and priority. In fact there were more economical options for boxes. Also, for boxes larger than 12x12x12, rates were only slightly higher. Is this different for FedEx / UPS / DHL?

-You'll also notice that packing materials are absent in some of these shipments. Another victim of cost reductions. These products (in most cases) are already sufficiently packaged and will survive bouncing around in that box.

Times are tough, and companies are cutting back where ever they can. Is this practice slightly less eco-friendly? Yes. You're fitting less in the delivery truck and wasting a little bit of cardboard (that you are going to recycle anyways, right?). Does it help out a corporation's bottom line? Yes, it is likely that they are saving a ton of money and boosting productivity. Are they risking an odd consumer backlash for putting tiny products in big boxes? Yes. In this economy, companies are going to make that trade.

Sorry, I'll stop pissing on the consumer backlash parade now.

Stupid corporations!!

anatak

There's obviously a need for the boxes though, or they wouldn't be purchased, which would cause the boxing companies to produce less, etc, etc.

I understand peoples concerns about the environment, but I think this box thing is a non-issue.

Rabid Penguin

of all the things that have potential to flush your lives down the crapper, THIS is what you are concerned about?
wake up!!! give the freakin box to the cat or the kid to play with. they will love ya forever.
don't forget, there are still people still using microsoft products out there
get your priorities straight!!!!!!!!!!

godwhacker

infmom

werk

jeff303

tekbandit

Buran

You are correct about nobody mentioning a boycott. I just think people are taking the large cardboard box to seriously.

I'm not an environment hater. I'm just not a crazy person either.

Rabid Penguin

Bay State Darren

suburbancowboy

Pope John Peeps II

scarbrtj

you also act like just because it's renewable there's not a cost associated with renewing it. Read Singlespeed and berribrand's responses.

i'll take the captain planet response as a compliment as well.

Paradise

Barry99705

Rabid Penguin

Well, no, not really. The boxes are cardboard, which is biodegradable. And in the end, the disposition of the boxes is your responsibility. Can't you recycle them somehow? We use them for storage and to mail other stuff (and for the record, we pack 'em full when we send them off).

I'm always glad when I get a big box. Have you priced boxes at Staples lately? They're horribly expensive. Much better to recycle a box I get for free from a vendor.

Bruce_A

pacopaco

Singlespeed

Curves

So, in the end, size does matter. Just not as much as some think.

Rabid Penguin

SgtMac02

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

So as far as packages go, size matters not?

Tayng

gr.mon

BlaqKnite

Thanks to ALL the e-tailers that have woken up and don't care too!!! You all will get my business!! WOO-HOO!

spectator101

Yes, the boxes are completely reusable & recyclable. However, the excessively large boxes mean they take up more space on the truck/plane. This means less items can fit on the vehicle. This means more trips, and more gas, are needed. Also, it does take resources to recycle the box...it doesn't just turn into a new box by itself.

geowrian

reddingofish

Guy-Fawkes

phantam

James

fistibums

berribrand

toyotaboy

Elderwulf

superbryant

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werk

Knight

AL-IS-A-LEDGE

We live in an age where customer service is almost dead. Personally, I appreciate that they'll split up an order to get it to me faster. To top it off, the boxes are recyclable.

XDoctor

I think it is appropriate to call on corporations to conserve on packaging whether its boxing or wrapping. If every 2GB flash drive were shipping in a huge box, it does have a huge impact given the millions (maybe billions?) of packages shipped daily. I share people's concern about relying on data to make informed decisions, but I don't think data exists as to how many products are shipped using over sized boxes - at this point is is a common sense issue. Conserving is a better choice than being wasteful.

berribrand

They should think more for reducing waste in environmetal society.

skylark12

Singlespeed

IKEA focuses a lot of effort on shipping efficiency. They'll redesign their items so that they can be flat packed into smaller/fewer boxes. Resellers are a completely different animal.

daveNYC

Cardboard is made from a renewable resource... one we're not in fear of losing. Save the box. I for one am not going to boycott a company because of their boxing practices.

"Let's put this camera in the BIGGEST box we can find!!! MWHAHAHAHA!!"

You diabolical bastards!

Maybe Congress should step in and regulate box sizes.

Rabid Penguin

Buran

packetsniffer

Singlespeed

packetsniffer

Really? "Huge"? I am skeptical. I am a data-driven kind of guy. I'd like to know the environmental impact. I am no expert, but you probably have to factor in a lot of variables besides "big box = BAD."

@Noobs-R-Us: she's nudier in "An American Werewolf in London" dontcha think...

scarbrtj

twilight-arc

EBounding

Shipping is more about weight than volume and while size-appropriate boxes certainly wouldn't hurt I'm not so sure it would have this "huge" impact you speak of.

As opposed to something like everyone turning their computers off at night or unplugging shit they aren't using. Both of which would actually have a huge impact, or so the research says.

hi_im_awesome

Paradise

How do these online stores make money again?

mclark2112

markgm

don't worry that the boxes are cardboard. that's the least of the problems with this issue.

vshank

Adam Frucci

"It holds up to 16 bags."

"No shit!"

long live pit pat.

killarclown

If the person that receives the item doesn't recycle the carton box then I don't know how this is the companies issue.

YES, they can definitely use smaller boxes. OK, we all agree on this.

...but, it's going a bit too far when you say these companies are irresponsibly-packing items or how huge of an impact on the environment they are having.

I would definitely categorize your most recent articles relating to the environment as ENVIRONMENTALLY ELITIST, Adam.

It's just a bit over the top, in my opinion.

xint

WilCon

bandit

jeff3410

R3PUBLIC0N

bandit

Noobs-R-Us

gqcarrick

Late_Night

zsleek7

Yeebles

enumerator

blindaxs

mms1648

You guys are douches.

Rabid Penguin

First of all, Newegg doesn't ship you 5 pieces of paper for invoices when you place one order (I love how this guy has strewn about all the invoice papers in a big heap).

Secondly, if all those boxes were stacked inside of each other (which I find very hard to believe since at least the two boxes on the left look to be exactly the same size), then why is there packing material still inside?

Perhaps Newegg doesn't pack very well, but at least in this case the photo looks staged to me.

jeff3410

Noobs-R-Us

Box.
BOX!

+ Watch video

Seriously, it's a dumb practice, but it's far cheaper to only buy certain boxes.
Somewhere someone did some math and that's how it turned out.
It doesn't make it right, but I understand the reasoning.

strider_mt2k

pixelfish

Newegg gets the "We pack you HD with the minimum bubblewrap required" award.

Amazon gets the "We advertise where you bought from" award.

CDW gets the "We print the contents as a PO on the DHL label so the temp driver can steal it" award.

I conserve the popcorn-packing too.

SigmundTheSeaMonster

N@tedog

duckers

riqgeez

226tim1

Tayng

Ruho

If you buy a product from walmart, you are pretty much complicit in whatever wastefulness they decide to hork at you. It's dumb to pretend that you're surprised.

Don't keep buying products from corporations whose policies you don't support!!

Pope John Peeps II

DaOtter

DomZ

I have an Amazon Prime account so I order a bunch from them, they're no better.

But to be honest, I don't care either. I just like my stuff. Paper is recyclable.

wooties

At three + vendors?

XJ_4x4

Which also basically, we can be safe to say that anyone born after 1960s will probably have some sort of radiation in their body...

MDIFILM

innout3x3

Stang70Fastback

WilCon

I was considering making a shipping container one mail-order bride joke, but for the sake of my soul, I won't go there.

Kaiser-Machead's Chips Ahoy!

Moonshadow101

vagrant