<![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG - Gizmodo Comments]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I own a Prius and drive it like a normal car. I live in the Hills of CT. Here's my typical mileage:

Warm weather 45 - 46 MPG
Cold Weather 39 - 40 MPG

I consider this to be fine. Much better than my Audi that gets 17.7 MPG but nowhere near what other Prius owners pretend to get.

Still, and this is the really important fact, I drove it 20k mile last year. It saved me $2,000 in gas compared to driving my Audi (no sitting sadly in the garage).

If you live in Kansas/Florida, drive 63 MPH, and only take it out in the summer you get 50+ MPG.

keerock

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> late to the game here, but gotta get in my two cents.

first of all, because the technology represents a step forward for the environment does not automatically mean it's going to be cheaper in the long run.

for example. a gallon of ethanol (don't get me started about corn and world food prices) contains much less energy than a gallon of gasoline. so it's not more energy efficient. however, it oxygenates the gasoline to make it burn cleaner, therefore reducing greenhouse gas emissions. what you have in the end in a more expensive solution, but are working towards a smaller production of pollutants.

although hybrids may be more expensive or fugly, the long term goal is where the solution lies. use less fuel. or use energy from renewable sources such as ethanol (switchgrass would be a much better resource than corn) or wind or solar.

one day we might all come home and plug our car into the battery pack that is charged by our personal windmill. it would be very expensive, but it would be the socially correct thing. it doesn't save any money, it saves the planet.

for what it's worth.

D.LYTE

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @robinandtami: Some theorize Peak Oil will not be a smooth, gradual change, but rather swift and tumultuous. BTW, anyone notice articles in the past couple of weeks talking about dramatic slowdowns in production of oil in Russia and the Middle East? With the track the world is currently on, I put my money on peak oil coming sooner than later.

liquidsoapdispenser

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @gibson042: Shale oil is not nearly as cost effective as the oil that can be brought up by drilling.

"Peak Oil" does not refer to a time when the earth runs out of oil that we are able to access. It refers to a time when we are unable to supply oil at the same rate as the demand for it. China, and several other countries that previously had little to no middle class, now have a rapidly growing middle class. As this occurs the demand is rising sharply. "Peak Oil" is not something we will notice overnight, but will be a gradually worsening situation. Some analysts say it has already begun, and others say we have a few more decades before it will be a huge problem. We could begin to prepare now, or we could just leave the problems to our descendants; much like we are doing with the national debt.

robinandtami

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @robinandtami: The future you speak of, without affordable oil, is decades away. Gasoline may well hit $5 a gallon soon, but that's because of Federal Reserve inflation devaluing the currency. In real terms like gold (or hamburgers), the price will remain approximately static until at least after the world's 2.8 trillion barrels of shale oil have been exhausted.

More information here.

gibson042

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @weatherman:

IOW, the furture will get here one day. Eventually, the amount of oil that we are able to get from the earth in a cost effective manner, will not be able to keep up with global demand. That's a fact. Some of us are smart enough to begin adapting now, and some of us just want to remain in denial so we can keep driving our Tahoe's a little longer. Some of us are helping to delay that day, and some of us are helping to rush it. I for one welcome $5 a gallon gas(which we WILL see in the next few years if not next year.) Yes, in the short term it will be very devestating for a lot of people and for the world economy as a whole, but it will also in turn force many stubborn people to change their habits. Things must change before we hit peak oil or a global depression the likes of which has never been seen, will be the result. And just so you know, I used to be one of those people who communted alone in their SUV. Now I drive a Scion. I had to fill up the SUV every other day. It now takes almost $80 to fill it (thank god I only drive it now when I have a genunie need) The Scion costs $40 to fill and I only have to do it once a week. $240 a week in gas vs $40-60. It quite literally pays for itself and then some.

robinandtami

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @weatherman:

I don't live in a gaited community. I live in an average 3br house, in an average rural neighborhood. If a family does well enough to own two cars; they can probably own three. They may have to drive cars not quite as nice as they are used to, and drive them longer than they usually do. So many people tend to buy the nicest cars they can afford instead, of buying cars they can easily afford. They are too embarrassed to be seen in a Ford Focus (or insert cheap econobox of your choosing.) They want to drive cars at least as nice as what the neighbor has, and they want to replace those cars as soon as they get them paid off. That is the very reason you see so many people communting to work alone in their Tahoe's. It's not smug to hope that some people might give up their "keep up with the Jones" ways and adapt to the reality that is the future, preferably BEFORE we hit peak oil.

robinandtami

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I'm glad people are working on more fuel efficient vehicles. I replace my HT equipment when things like double the resolution become available. I replace my computer when things like double the processing power become available.

I bought my car in 2001. THey are releasing a new version that is two generations newer than my car- same crappy gas mileage - just a little more horse power. It would be great if we could see cars double in gas mileage ever 10 years. Instead it seems they listen to idiots who keep on demanding more horse power. Once you car has 200 HP or so there isn't a lot of need for more HP unless you use your car at work at NASCAR. I don't know where these people live but in ever state I've lived in these angry men in black and white cars pull me over once I start to use too much of my horse power.

boe

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @macserv: Nope. Not nuclear. Solar, wind, water, etc..

Although nuclear creates less greenhouse gas, there is still that little matter of the longer-term pollution from nuclear power plants...

ideaman2020

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gibson042

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @weatherman: dude every body knows only rednecks an trailerparkers have 4+ babies!!! LOL

Fatty

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> that car is beautiful but seriously wheres the power of water?

cesarin12003

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liquidsoapdispenser: You're right, we need to replace fossil fuel power plants with nuclear power as rapidly as possible to make it work. Otherwise, we'd be burning coal to electrolyze the water in the first place, negating the benefit. In a couple decades, we can switch to solar for that, and then (in a few more decades) fusion. As far as the timeline goes, GM will have the Sequel ready in a few years, and a fuel-cell-powered Volt before that.

If you're in southern California, hydrogen is more readily available, but the fact that it isn't everywhere yet is no excuse not to pursue it agressively... it's the right thing to do. This is one of those "We choose to do these things, not because they are easy.." challenges that absolutely MUST be undertaken and accomplished. And the sooner we do it, the sooner we can tell OPEC exactly what to do with themselves.

macserv

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @macserv: Is hydrogen right around the bend? I'm not seeing it being online for decades, and only in conjunction with more nuclear power (or ?) as the true energy source, since hydrogen is just a method for cars to store and use energy (basically a super-clean battery). In my opinion, the more ways we can find to increase efficiency while we're waiting for other technologies to mature, the better. Of course, pushing for conservation and having the government come up with a decent energy policy would make sense.

liquidsoapdispenser

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> i think the car looks HOTT!

makeseven

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @robinandtami: It's exactly that kind of "it works for me so it should work for everybody" kind of attitude that pisses me off. What gated community do you you live in where the average family can have three cars? Nevermind whether you actually do live in an area where that's true, why do you assume it's true for everyone else in the country? What about single parents? What about people who live in large cities? What about people without health insurance? What about people who have a household income less than $50,000? That, by the way, is most of America.

No wonder people think that hybrid drivers are smug - that kind of "let them eat cake" attitude just shows how divorced they are from the reality of most of America.

@arbeck: well I never said anything about 4 kids, but while we're on the topic, what makes you think you have the moral authority to tell anyone how many kids to have? What is this, China? We don't have an overpopulation problem in the US. In fact, we have an underpopulation problem. That's why we've been letting so many immigrants into this country for so long; we need them to grow our population and keep our economy moving. Once again some smug-emitting DINK tells everyone else how to live their life, nevermind that your experience isn't universal.

weatherman

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @NCMO: They fail at that too: The manufacturing process of a Toyota hybrid battery requires it to be shipped overseas seven times to various facilities. And that's just the battery. How's that for a carbon footprint?

I'm pissed off at "hybrids" in general. A hybrid is supposed to represent the combination of the BEST of two worlds. Over the last decade, "hybrid" has come to mean an easier-to-implement "half-measure" instead, an intermediary step which solves no problems other than that the CEO's wallet is too thin.

What's really annoying is that the true solutions are right around the bend, but hybrids steal the hype. "Why push for faster development of fuel-cell vehicles and the hydrogen economy? You can get a HYBRID now. Oh, and who wants those expensive solid-state storage devices? You can get a HYBRID today! What? You want a real solution? Awwwww geez, come on, that's HARD!"

To hell with this. It really bothers me that my data is stored on a spinning plate with a moving arm. What is this, the mechanical age? Or that my car and home are powered by burning stuff. Burning! Urrrh... fire make car go! We're still cavemen huddled around fires, only now they're engines and fossil fuel power plants.

I come to Gizmodo looking for the future, and this ain't it. I need a version of Giz where all the half-measures, speed bumps, rehashes, and warmed-over versions of the same old shit is filtered out. I only want to see the truly revolutionary, forward-looking stuff, not Yet Another Windows Mobile Device, and definitely not another frakking hybrid.

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macserv

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @bitfactory:

My wife and I have no kids, but desired (not needed) a bigger vehicle to haul the dogs around or carry things that just won't fit into a hatchback, so we just waited until one vehicle was paid off and bought an SUV. It just sits in the driveway and only gets driven once a month or so. If you buy less expensive vehicles, you won't need a trade-in. If the average family budgets their finances correctly, plans ahead, and buys vehicles well within their means; they can have 3 vehicles for a 2 driver family. Two high milage commute to work type vehicles and one larger haul the kids and "stuff" type vehicle. The money you save in gas alone by not commuting in the "family bus" would go a LONG way towards paying for an "econobox."

robinandtami

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @ludwigk:

I think you are confusing need with desire.

robinandtami

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I think they should make them less fugly... Like seriously, why do they have to be so goddam unique and "oh, look at me, I drive a prius!" These cars have been marketed to the point where Prius drivers think it's good for the environment to drive their cars...

AqueousBeef

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @GoPadge:

There are alot of hybrid SUV's.

[www.hybridsuv.com]

robinandtami

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @nutbastard: Holy crap a cheap electric MR2 that would be my dream!

I might just be a contrarian because I love the look of this car esp with the suicide doors. Hot!

Jasontrainer

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liquidsoapdispenser: Well, based on my experience, it's the <5 miles having a negative effect on her mpg, not the stop & go traffic.

It takes the system that time to warm up to efficiency. [That annoying "I'm going to run the ICE on every startup whether your battery needs it or not."] Toyota, stealth mode, please...

ideaman2020

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> 94 miles per gallon my ass. More like 50 (at the most).

nutcracker

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @dc67021: Wow, you set the cruise control at 70mph and the Prius went at 62mph? What a horrible car!

I kid, I kid. I know what you meant.

I'm waiting for plug in hybrids as well. The Hymotion thing sounds cool, too bad it's so damn expensive. Still, 1000 miles on 9.8 gallons, that sounds awesome.

yayaba

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @weatherman: "Single people who don't have kids often think that everything should be small and highly efficient and scorn those who drive big cars, but when you have a family and/or do anything more than drive to work, you need a bigger car."

Bingo.

bitfactory

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @kickace: I think it's the opposite, most people will not end up saving as much money in gas while they own the car to justify the extra expense of a hybrid. People buy them because they want to appear eco-friendly, therefore the car must look significantly different then normal cars so these idiots can show off how much more they care about the environment then the rest of us (as long as nobody talks about the villages in China where the batteries of their cars will be sent when the car bites the big one).

NCMO

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liveinvt:

Yeah, this is not about CURRENT Prius' it says FUTURE - read.

but uh yeah stuff and things and what not.... dope.

Stacky Botrus

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I've had enough of this. I'm buying a bike.

ripfire

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @arbeck: Your final statement is irrelevant, and I don't think you can make a meaningful argument in terms of "need" and family size.

There is undeniably *SOME* need to have children, and in some cases more than two could be of critical importance (for instance, your 3rd child invents clean, unlimited, renewable energy).

For some people it is a moral/religious imperative. Others might find great satisfaction in parenthood, and thus want a larger family. In these cases, you cannot tell someone how many children they "need".

You can say: A smaller family uses less resources than a larger one, or Once life expectancy stabilizes, if each adult couple only had two children, the world's population would stabilize, but none of this is related to 'need' in any quantifiable sense.

ludwigk

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I just bought the new Touring Prius. I just went from Jacksonville to Orlando. I set the cruise control about 70 miles. I got about 62 miles an hour. I am very happy with my prius. Toyota is really rock!!!

dc67021

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> what did the Honda Insight real-world mileage turn out to be?

Why doesn't Toy make an ultra-efficient (2 seater?) version?

FThorn

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I really like those reverse inverted pickle-gripped re-enorphed punk knuckle rebeltwat doors on this thing!

Stacky Botrus

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> i still have yet to figure out why they can't make a hybrid that looks like a car and not the ugliest thing ever made.

i mean, the design is just downright disqusting - haven't they figured out more poeple would buy hybrids if they looked like cars and not a car made for a dumbass....

or maybe thats the exact reason they do that, to prevent people from wanting to buy

kickace

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @donlphi: A current model mini cooper would be able to accommodate you easily. I used to have one (I am 6'5"), and Dirk Nowitski (7'+ basketball player) does as well.

Gofastmazda

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @ideaman2020: There is an ideal area between 70mph and constant stop-n-go traffic that would give the best gas mileage. The regenerative breaking system is far from 100% efficient. Also, it's been shown that trips under 5 miles yield lower gas mileage, and my wife drives 5 miles of stop-n-go traffic to work each day (it takes her 30 minutes, when it would take under 10 during off hours).

liquidsoapdispenser

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> finally we get a car that looks like those concept sketches that are "from the future".... now is the flux-capacitor an option on this thing.

karmakid

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I think these hybrid cars are terrific, but as a 6'8" guy, I assure you, they will never accommodate my size like my current vehicle, which eats so much gas, I'm ashamed to say what is. I don't know why these cars can't just extend the seat track 2 inches. If they did, I could fit in almost anything. Even the new Hybrid Ford Explorers and Toyota Hybrid SUVs are too small. My leg gets wedged between the steering wheel and the center consul.

This new Prius looks better than the old one, but I don't think it's going to make much of a difference for a person like myself.

donlphi

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> Plug-in hybrids won't be here until 2010 at the earliest. The LI batteries (or other) are not yet road ready. This one looks like a 9% improvement so if you are getting 45mpg you'll likely get ~49mpg. Speed limits on Japanese highways are more like 50-60mph which accounts for part of their higher measure to US actuals.

Uncle Remus

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @SwatLax: I agree, such a leap isn't really needed. In fact, the need for "power" is why most American-based hybrids fail to do significantly better mileage-wise than their non-hydrid counterparts.

Hopefully there will be an option like there is on the New Bettle for Normal/Sport that controls transmission shift points and the like. Then under most conditions you can just leave it in the more efficient mode.

ghmlco

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @Glamdering:

Can we PLEASE have a hybrid that doesn't look like a damn vibrator?

You mean like the Civic hybrid? Camry hybrid? Ford Escape Hybrid? GMC Yukon hybrid?

Of course, the shape of the Prius is designed, in part, for aerodynamics, which makes it more efficient...and by that metric, perhaps it's a better hybrid.

EQC

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @ackthbbft: I bet you're right. they don't use miles in japan. can Brian Lim confirm this?

qrius

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> DaOtter made me laugh loudest. They don't call 'em Toyota "Pius" owners for nothing.

Dr. J

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @takemetoyourtoaster: Go read the article Giz references. You're off by ~15-20.

SwatLax

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I suspect the "84mpg" is actually more like 84 kilometers, not miles. 84km = 52 miles, which is about right for a Prius, mpg-wise.

ackthbbft

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @Glamdering: A vibrator that's four inches bigger than the older pocket-rocket model, LOL!

AJ_Syrinx

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> 84mpg for prius = about 60 real life
94 mpg for prius = mabe 75

my estimates :?

takemetoyourtoaster

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @weatherman: I'll agree with you that not everyone can live with an Insight - that's why the 4-door Prius wiped the road with Honda's first to market hybrid - it was basically a mid-size car so it didn't require sacrifice. Something to remember - the current Prius is only slightly smaller than a Camry, so if someone needs a 'bigger' car, that seems more up their alley. Also, given how many people with kids practically live out of their Corolla, I'm pretty sure that the Prius offers more than enough room for most 2 parent, 2 kid households.

passenger volume/cargo volume (cu.ft.)
09 Corolla: 92/12.3
08 Prius: 96.2/14.4
09 Camry: 101.4/14.5

And though I'm sure the new engine is wonderfully efficient for its size, a 50hp jump isn't necessary - I drive a car with a 127hp engine, and I've never had a problem merging on the highway (the common 'safety' excuse for more hp).

SwatLax

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @weatherman

There is a simple solution to the big family problem. Don't have so many kids. A family of four should have no problems in a small sedan. And there is no need to ever have more than two kids.

arbeck

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @ghmlco: "Unveiled in 2009" usually mean a 2010 model.

Ever notice how they do that..?

ideaman2020

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liquidsoapdispenser: Actually, stopping in traffic will get you better mileage than driving 70 mph on an open highway. [Slower is better. Notice that the city mpg is higher than the highway mgp.]

Unless you've got the air conditioning blasting away, with the windows open, then all bets are off...

ideaman2020

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> Is it just me, or does the new Prius shown on the jalopnik site have bigger wheels? It looks less like a car riding on a skateboard than does the current model.

That said, I think Toyota should remodel the design based on the concept car. I'd buy it in a second.

Finally, just what does "The car is set to be unveiled in 2009" mean? Will it be a 2009 model or a 2010? When will you be able to actually buy one?

ghmlco

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> Actually my biggest beef with hybrid makers is that they aren't selling for my market segment. I've got 4 kids, there's no hybrid that will fit 6 that I know about. I'd love to save money at the pump too. Of course I'd love to sell my Excursion and not take a bath on a trade-in too.

And before anyone throws a conniption fit, the only reason I have an Excursion is to pull a 34' camper.

GoPadge

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @nutbastard: the price for adding lightness to a car is either money or blood: expensive materials or loss of safety.

frigg

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> Another small incremental step on the way toward a fully electric future. ~50mpg (real-world estimate on the new Prius) does not compete with a fully electric vehicle. Admittedly, the electrics out there are still waiting on the holy grail of battery power. But, when it arrives any day now, boy are they going to be great.

Any day now.

Really. Any day.

Monty

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liveinvt: My next door neighbor gets 51 MPG (based on his own calculations, not the in-car numbers). My wife gets about 45 MPG, but her driving is typically during rush hour in LA, so there's just too much stopping in traffic to get optimal mileage.

I want to know when someone will offer a hybrid station wagon!
[liquidsoapdispenser.com]

liquidsoapdispenser

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @DaOtter:

Damnit. That was mine.

grayskyz

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I find it funny that you post the picture of the concept to the new prius, when your sister site (jalopnik) has some pretty good looking and older spyshots of the next gen prius on their site.

[jalopnik.com]

Although those shots look a lot different from what popular mechanics say of their spyshot.

[www.popularmechanics.com]

Still, I'm really hoping for a plug-in version.

geekpi

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @SwatLax: Thing is, most folks don't have enough of a budget to have multiple cars for multiple uses, and a larger car means being able to accommodate families more easily. If you have two kids and you want to take a weekend camping trip, chances are you can't actually fit in a current Prius very easily. Single people who don't have kids often think that everything should be small and highly efficient and scorn those who drive big cars, but when you have a family and/or do anything more than drive to work, you need a bigger car. And a more fuel-efficient bigger car is going to ultimate appeal to more people and do more to reduce pollution than a fleet of EV1's.

weatherman

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> actually, maybe I'LL make an electric mr2... although it's kind of a sin to throw out the awesome 4AGE, since it already gets around 30mpg, and is one of the more fun engines to tax horses out of...

nutbastard

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @SwatLax:
right, if anything they should be reducing the weight ("adding lightness" as the Lotus folks say) as a first priority. it's already a huge car in my opinion, actually all cars are a bit large for my tastes. why can't they make a cheap electric MR2???

nutbastard

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liveinvt:

Read the actual article and not Giz's summary and they take note of Japan's fuel-efficiency system. They leave out that it's important to see that they are still improving on fuel efficiency, but not pay attention to the actual numbers themselves.

Shoddy journalism I say!

dagamer34

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liveinvt: You don't hear about high MPG ratings because people don't drive for optimum MPG. In fact, I'd surmise that the people who own them drive worse (high revving which is terrible for efficiency) because they think a hybrid is a cure all for their bad driving.

This version looks infinitely better than the current model...am hoping more manufacturers continue this trend. More choices = lower prices.

Gofastmazda

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> But isn't this car the leading cause of smug?

DaOtter

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I will go TDI VW first.

groovyone

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I'm sure it'll have much less than advertised fuel economy, will still look horrendously ugly, and will still prevail as a safety risk when trying to enter a freeway...

The_Drunk_IT_guy

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @froggy: Whatever measurements they are using to come up with 94mpg, gives a rating of 84 mpg for the current Prius.

Everyone knows you get ~45mpg in mixed driving in the current one, so this means you can expect close to 55mpg in future version. It's a shame that some of its technological improvements are being used to make the car larger and faster, rather than even more frugal.

SwatLax

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> @liveinvt: If your not sure there different, then you haven't seen them.

Also, there are a hell of a lot of safe cars that don't look this fugly. It's not that they had to make a choice between looks and safety, it's just that they aren't concerned about styling because it's not their selling point.

Darrone

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I'll buy one when they release it if it's under $25K.

pwnz0r

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> VOLT Killer!

Pluton

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> 84? I have yet to hear about a Prius that gets over 50 MPG

Snubbed fronts are good for collisions. Unless you want a high boxed look? Not sure that the newer VW lines are much different.

I like the suicide doors. Looks almost Back-to-th-future-2 / Total recall-esque

liveinvt

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I like the concept more then I like the (current) market Prius. But that's just me. 94MPG on a 1.6L engine is not bad either. Probably more in stop and go city traffic.

froggy

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> Can we PLEASE have a hybrid that doesn't look like a damn vibrator?

Glamdering

]]> <![CDATA[Next Generation Prius Hybrid Is Bigger, More Powerful, With More MPG]]> I'd still take the VW diesel hybrid simply on looks and carbon output.

I don't like the snubbed front. Just not that stylish.

Darrone

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