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infmom
03/29/09

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So they have to evaluate and explain creation scientifically? Go for it. Any alternate "theory" should be subject to the scientific method.
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ceilingFANBOY
03/28/09

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Wouldn't changing the textbooks to fit this law make the books not even legal in some states? I think that here in MD there is some kind of law that states that the evolution unit can't be subject to a disclaimer about how it is only a theory and that that the point of the unit is not to counter creationism.
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⌘Z
03/28/09

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but can evolution explain how the high school musical franchise made so much god damned money?
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

@the new face of racial america: This is the funniest comment in this entire thread.

*tips hat*
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Loren Wade Rednour
03/28/09

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It's just sickening how many of you bash creationists as a generalization. I'm a Christian and a creationist. Evolution is a theory, and to you... so is creation. So what's the difference? If you want to bash the ones passing the law, fine. Don't just generalize and demean us.
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KaitouKID
03/28/09

@Loren Wade Rednour: cry more you uneducated smut. Seriously move to a goddamn island with your other believers so we can get rid of your sorry ass. If you do'nt believe in evolution, please stop taking vaccines kthxbai.
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

@KaitouKID: I will agree on the evidence supporting our origins, however, saying someone is living a life full of "lies" is no better than any Creationist saying likewise about someone who acknowledges and agrees with the scientific theories such as evolution.

A lie is a matter of intent. Who lied, and why? Without knowing these two things, it's just a wild guess that serves only as an empty insult.
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Josh Barrow
03/28/09

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Think of an explosion. Does that cause destruction and chaos? Ive never heard of a new life form coming out of a super nova. Tell me this: Darwin himself said that his theory (Yes folks, this is a THEORY that you all are accepting as pure truth.) would be debunked if no transitional forms could be found. Here we are, many years later, and NOT ONE has been found. Explain this people?

There is a God who created this universe, that same God who is in the Bible. Those of you who done believe the Bible, look at the attacks thrown against it, NOT ONE has proven the inaccuracy of the Bible. Those of you who believe Jesus Christ was merely a good man, or worse, never existed, look at history. Even secular historians will admit, he was real. So if Jesus Was real, and the Bible has never been proven on being false, what are we left with? Creation by intelligent design, by God.
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

@Josh Barrow:

Archaeopteryx and Tiktaalik and many equine species gathered in the fossil record, for example, are transitional forms for modern bird species, reptiles/amphibians and modern equine respectively. We have plenty of transitional fossils in the fossil record, but it's extremely difficult to gather every single transitional form, because there is no such thing as an actual "missing link", compounded with the fact that millions of species die out all the time, with little to no remains left after thousands or even millions of years of decay. There's no such thing as an incomplete species. Changes over hundreds of thousands of generations are far beyond the very limited nature of labeling species.

So your statement that no transitional fossils have been found is incorrect.

I won't bother arguing about the existence of God, since one can't prove or disprove a negative, but there's also no sound alternative, in either creationist literature, or the bible, to counter evolutionary theory. So far, the evidence supporting evolution vastly outweighs the evidence against, which, as it turns out, is nothing at all.

It's one thing to say "he created it", and an entirely different thing to explain how.
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Josh Barrow
03/28/09

@Kaiser-Machead: You could not directly respond to the fact that the bible has never been proven wrong. God is God, If He could create the universe, He can do it whatever way He wants. It says how He did it in Genesis.
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Nintenboy01
03/28/09

@Kaiser-Machead: But I often wonder: Could creatures as unique and complex as humans have really been the result of random chance or survival of the fittest? How would "nature" know how to give us opposable thumbs and intelligence so far beyond any other creature?
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

@Josh Barrow: Disproving a negative is not possible. It's very possible that God is real, however, this has no effect on science in general, since there is no quantitative proof to add to it.

I have no interest in "disproving" the bible. The bible doesn't say evolution can't happen. It could just as well be God, in its infinite wisdom, silently guiding all of it, and we use our own means to figure out how.

That much is for the philosophers; the rest is up to scientists to figure out.
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

@Nintenboy01: Uniqueness is a funny thing. No single creature on earth is exactly the same as another, so in that regard, we humans are no more unique than even the smallest creatures on earth. Complexity is yet another. For all of the technological advances we make, no matter how far we expand into space, we won't be that much more complex than chimpanzees.

What nature "knows", is not really certain. It could be anything. It could very well be chance, and against unfathomable odds, we and everything else around us came to be somehow, but we don't really have any real answers to these questions. All we have is a very limited understanding of the mechanics of the universe and of nature on earth.
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Graverobber
03/28/09

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I hear they're none to happy about the geography books with all this round-earth nonsense either.
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

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Nice try Texas.

I don't think the rest of America wants to devolve with you, except maybe Clearwater, Florida.
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YOXIM
03/28/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Hey, I'll have you know that Clearwater is a very nice place! At least the beach. I don't really give a shit about the rest of that city. :)
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

@YOXIM: It's pretty much Scientology country, so I say screw it.
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Nintenboy01
03/28/09

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Let's just say God or some cosmic entity created lil' germs, and everything else evolved from them.
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madog
03/28/09

@Nintenboy01: He's supporting both claims, which for many people works out fine for those religious people who don't survive on blind faith alone.

Although, that's still too much for these creationist to believe.

@switchblade saints: Who ever said that, other than you? Is "star dust" the scientific name for it or are you just making shit up to be an asshole to someone who just wants everyone to get along and believe in both? And really, I don't care what you say in your defense as I've seen your other posts, and nothing will really help you; nor do I really care what other diarrhea comes out of your brain to enlighten us during this debate.
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ShabaliniCadmus
03/28/09

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Each theory is based on faith, therefore both are religious. If you don't see that, you're not looking at the facts.

And fuck anyone who don't like the Texas.
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dgaf8
03/29/09

@ShabaliniCadmus:

WTF are you talking about..evolution has proof..use your eyes. It's only called a theory because Religious ppl wouldnt take in the evidence and admitt it's truth..or closest thing to it. Just like global warming..it's not really global but "universal" and is out of human control..and all you have to do is use ur eyes and look at the giant fire ball in the sky to know that..so is it still a theory to wonder how a Land Mammal...ended up being a Water Mammal...Dolphins and whales arnt "fish" thats proof retards.
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Tezlan
03/29/09

@ajcali08: Evolution being proven? dude where are you getting that info? Sry, but things simply haven't been getting better... and the human race only goes back at most 8K years. *shakes head* Not millions and millions... Go study it out man!
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IN THE FACE!
03/30/09

@Tezlan: While I agree that ajcali08's comment was bat-shit-crazy at best, the theory of evolution has nothing to do with religion, the "faith" involved in believing in evolution is only in looking at a large quantity of testable data and making a supportable inference to extend the observations taken from that data into a more formal and far reaching theory. It's not PROOF I acknowledge, but it is a far cry from taking something that was written 2000+ years ago by desert nomads to be proof simply because it claims to be the "word of god".

I am still perplexed as to your concern over the age of the human race... The fact that the earth itself (regardless of how long humans have been around) has been proven to be millions of years old in and of itself throws a wrench into the creationist theory.

Oh and, Fuck Texas.
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Derek Wilkinson
03/28/09

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I don't think that if they want to believe in creationism, let them, and if they want to believe in evolution, let them. You shouldn't try to FORCE ideas upon people, or they will just hate the people who do it.

But thinking that every creationist is some god nut-job and every evolutionist is a die-hard atheist is just ignorant.
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twoeightnine
03/28/09

@Derek Wilkinson: You shouldn't try to FORCE ideas upon people, or they will just hate the people who do it.

Aren't they forcing each and every student in their high schools to learn about creationism/believe that evolution is not a fact by placing it in their textbooks?
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Kaiser-Machead
03/28/09

@Derek Wilkinson: Let's stop forcing algebra. Let's stop force-feeding children modern biology, geology, astronomy, and the like.

What gives them the right to stuff these facts down their throats?
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pdok
03/28/09

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What's with all the intolerance, anyway? Either way you're placing faith in something (yes, you are), but you're all just making yourselves sound like dolts with all the rage.
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ZLevee
03/28/09

@pdok: no, you're not. Evolution has lost of supporting data.
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James Morris
03/28/09

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I find it absolutely ridiculous that Creationists refuse to believe evolution because of lack of evidence, although there is sufficient evidence, yet the theory they believe in, has absolutely no evidence to support it at all.
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ZLevee
03/28/09

@James Morris: nice point.
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Arvedui
03/28/09

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You know what? Fuck Texas.
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Hello Mister Walrus
03/28/09

@Arvedui: Maybe, if not for all the fatties.
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IN THE FACE!
03/30/09

@Arvedui: Mess with Texas. It's fun AND entertaining!
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cbandes
03/28/09

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So Texas is the new Kansas?
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IN THE FACE!
03/30/09

@cbandes: Yes, PLEASE! I am one Kansas than welcomes Texas' new creationism-pushing school board overlords.

(I feel sorry for those poor kids in the Texas school system, but I am sick of my state having the lime lite on this issue)
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AlphaUltima
03/28/09

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when did the rest of america had to start pandering to the retarded states? this is like being run by the weakest link. can we throw them back to mexico yet?
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snubz
03/28/09

@AlphaUltima: Yes please. Or perhaps just create the United Coasts of America, and then whatever the other part wants to call themselves.
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Hello Mister Walrus
03/28/09

@snubz: Here you go:

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